Lawyer Ginsberg resigns...just on CNN

[digno dave]

[lancdem]

1. From the Bush campaign?

[AZCat]

24. Yes- AP Link (at Yahoo)

Lawyer Advising Vets Quits Bush Campaign

By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - An election lawyer for President Bush (news - web sites) who also has been advising a veterans group running TV ads against Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) resigned Wednesday from Bush's campaign.

"I cannot begin to express my sadness that my legal representations have become a distraction from the critical issues at hand in this election," Benjamin Ginsberg wrote in a resignation letter to Bush released by the campaign.

"I feel I cannot let that continue, so I have decided to resign as national counsel to your campaign to ensure that the giving of legal advice to decorated military veterans, which was entirely within the boundaries of the law, doesn't distract from the real issues upon which you and the country should be focusing."

Ginsberg's acknowledgment Tuesday evening that he was providing legal advice to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth marked the second time in days that an individual associated with the Bush-Cheney campaign had been connected to the group, which Kerry accuses of being a front for the Republican incumbent's re-election effort.
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More at link...

On Edit: Fixed Link? (I hope)

[ronnykmarshall]

27. Yahoo link too --------- YAHOO!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20040825/pl_nm/campaign_bush_ads_dc_7

[ElsewheresDaughter]

56. more absolute PROOF that bush/cheney are in violation of the CFR law!

but......i will not bve holding my breathe

[arwalden]

33. Don't Forget... Click To Rate The Yahoo Story A "5"

[papau]

46. Broke the law - the common vendor rule - will Ashcroft go after him?

But no mention of the fact that a law was broken.

interesting.

[Cicero]

52. Be careful

...because you know the talking heads will soon be clamoring for the resignation of Joe Sandler, a lawyer who works for both the DNC and Moveon.org. You know they'll be screaming about violating the law yet soft-pedaling the issue with Ginsberg.

later,

[jdj]

63. If it's true then Sandler needs to resign as well

[Judi Lynn]

57. Here's where it is at 2:13 p.m., EST: "3.22 with 1718 vote(s). "n/t

[Habibi]

59. Uh, excuse me?

" . . .my legal representations have become a distraction from the critical issues at hand in this election"?

Wasn't that the whole point of the SmearVets crusade--to create a distraction from the critical issues?

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Link

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6067942

[Rose Siding]

20. How many in the photo are in the attack group?

The caption says "many". Is that overstated?


A top lawyer for President George W. Bush's re-election campaign has been providing legal advice to the group that has accused Democrat John Kerry of lying about his Vietnam War record, informed sources said on August 24, 2004. The sources, who asked not to be identified, said Ben Ginsberg, the Bush campaign's chief outside counsel, has also been giving legal advice to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that is attacking Kerry. Kerry(Top Center) is seen with a number of swift boat veterans, many of whom are now part of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, in this January 1969 photo. Photo by Reuters

[arwalden]

25. What A Weasel He Is... Human Trash... Filth

-- Allen

PS: That goes for ALL Bush* supporters.

[louis c]

3. That's two resignations

from the Bush Campaign Committee over the boat liars ad.

That seems odd if there's no connection, don't you think so?

(on edit) No resignations until they got caught. How many haven't been cought yet?

[HootieMcBoob]

10. What a coinky dink

i want some more to fall

[Inland]

12. No resignations until caught is right

Typical Bushite tactic of denying any wrongdoing, then getting caught, then a resignation, then an assertion that all is better now, then caught, rinse, repeat. Assume everything is a tip of an iceberg.

[wicket]

18. who was the other one who resigned?

n/t

[lancdem]

21. Ken Cordier

[mac56]

4. Spending more time with the family?

;)

[RobertSeattle]

5. Add "From Campaign"

He hasn't resigned from his law firm.

[argonne]

6. He just decided; just wanted to.

MF Bush had nothing to do with it. Doesn't even know him.

I am so mad I just can't express it.

[Cicero]

26. You know what the response will be

Heck, you can see it now. I was looking at the Neal Boortz website and he has this little gem...

Since the media won't tell you about it, shall we highlight the extensive ties between The Poodle's campaign and the Bush-bashing Moveon.org? The lawyers for the DNC are doing the same thing. That's right...you have all this outrage on the left over all this supposed "coordination" but the Democrats are doing the exact same thing. You want a name? We have a name! The lawyer's name is Joe Sandler, and he works for both the DNC and Moveon.org.


Just from the post and off the top of my head, I can already say that the DNC <> the Kerry campaign. Where else is Boortz wrong, here?

Later,

[KayLaw]

34. Big frikkin' deal

The point is that the Swifties are telling purely evil LIES - very big difference.

[Cicero]

38. Maybe so, but that's not the point of this little teapot tempest

A Bush campaign lawyer has just resigned because of his ties to the Swift Boat group.

Boortz (and you know there will be others, like Rush, Hannity, etc.) will immediately demand the resignation of this Joe Sandler guy, because he works for both the DNC and Moveon.org, and they'll scream bloody blue murder for every second of airtime they have on how its an unfair double-standard, blahditty blah blah, yakkada yakkada boink, and then the media will start their own drumbeat about it...

Just more insanity heaped upon the pile.

:crazy:

Later,

[KittyWampus]

53. The DNC Is NOT THE KERRY CAMPAIGN

I know YOU know... but others in this thread may not have gotten this down pat yet.

The DNC is NOT THE KERRY CAMPAIGN!

The DNC IS INDEPENDANT FROM THE KERRY CAMPAIGN.

MOVEON IS INDEPENDANT FROM THE KERRY CAMPAIGN.

There is NO similiarity between Ginsberg and Sandler.

NONE.

Nada.

Nilch.

[jdj]

64. Okay, thank you

I almost got swept under by a troll.

[Cicero]

68. I hope and trust you don't mean me

:pals:

Later,

[Carni]

7. Good riddance to really BAD RUBBISH

Wonder how the Rove reich will spin this?

[qanda]

13. Just go over to FReeperville...

I believe the get how to respond from visiting their base of fools.

[Carni]

16. Most definitely do hell some swiftboat liars are members

Hell, some swiftboat liars are FR members.

[DrDan]

8. is this the goofball

who was all over TV during the Clinton impeachment-debacle?

He is a slimeball, if so.

[mac56]

11. The same.

Yes, quite the slimeball.

[JuniorPlankton]

9. From Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/

[devinsgram]

14. Jumping ship like the rats they are.

[hang a left]

15. These resignations clearly imply wrong doing.

What I don't understand is that, why would you have so many researchable connections to * in these days of the internet? Something is just starting to feel funny about these ads. Could be my hormones.

[Carni]

17. They are extremely arrogant

If anything hangs this regime of lies it will be their own arrogance.

[joefree1]

19. 1, 2, 3, 4,

Let's git these Bushbots until there ain't no more.


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[skip fox]

22. I've added to SBVT-Gate: The File. Please send more links

and stories. New version of file up sometime tomorrow.

[West Coast Democrat]

23. Link to AP story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20040825/ap_on_el_pr/veterans_group_bush

[arwalden]

28. That AP Story Has Much More Info That The Reuters Story

perhaps the Reuters story is still developing and they'll add more info later.

-- Allen

[molly]

29. This is the part I absolutely LOVE!

"Ginsberg's acknowledgment Tuesday evening that he was providing legal advice to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth marked the second time in days that an individual associated with the Bush-Cheney campaign had been connected to the group, which Kerry accuses of being a front for the Republican incumbent's re-election effort."

[LeftHander]

31. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Let them deny any link now....!!

[havocmom]

30. Almost had a heart attack

my eyes read Ginsberg but my paranoid little brain registered Ginsburg.

Damn, that was scary for a couple of seconds

[Terran]

32. One has to wonder what sort of legal advice he was providing...

"Go ahead, lie your asses off about Kerry and risk a libel suit." Seems like, er, good legal advice to me.

[berner59]

35. If they're resigning...

Left & right...doesn't that implicate them??? Where are the indictments??? It makes it ok to resign AFTER breaking the law?? WHY AREN"T MORE PEOPLE SCREAMING!!!!

[ignatius 2]

39. LAW,LAW..you must be thinking about that other America, you

know, the one pre-Bush when the rule of law and order and the constitution still had meaning!!!

[jayfish]

36. Looks Like The Smear Boat Just Hit A Mine.

Will W* be able to recuse his crew-mates?

Jay

[chromotone]

67. Yeah...

Looks Like The Smear Boat Just Hit A Mine.

But I doubt in C-in-C* Bush will come back to save anybody!
________
*Not "Commander in Chief" but "Coward in Crawford"

[ignatius 2]

37. Oh man, this is rich..you go Kerry, give the bullies some of their

own medicine and watch them fall like the house of cards that they built

WOOHOOOOOO!!!!

[ProfessorGAC]

40. And, Of Course, The Bush Campaign Has No Knowledge. . .

. . .that he was advising the Swifties. Yeah, sure! Plausible denialbility, my eye!
The Professor

[gratuitous]

41. Nothing to it, I'm sure

He just decided that he doesn't need the work anymore. Lawyers resign all the time from cases and clients. Nothing special. Hardly worth mentioning.

[skip fox]

42. Reference file on SBVT in DUs Editorials:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x69684

[Ediacara]

43. Jeez!

For a second there I thought this meant SCOTUS Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, which would NOT be a good thing.

[hyphenate]

58. Ruth Bader Ginsberg

is a good lady. Not a puke.

[johnfunk]

44. He was a total scumbag during the faux Lewinsky impeachment scandal

... always appearing on MSNBC, invariably with this lascivious leer on his face. He looks like the sort of person I'd take every precaution to keep my daughters (and sons) away from.

[grasswire]

51. he did have an awful leer...

...and sometimes he seemed to be near to drooling. My daughter would immediately leave the room when he came on television.

(There's a DU-er who knows Ginsberg who is quite mad at those of us who talk about him in personal terms, btw.)

[Judi Lynn]

60. It was the rows of tiny teeth that scared some of the rest of us, too!

Not to mention the hot white hatred seething within him every time he came forward to rage against Bill Clinton, our last elected President.

I can imagine a child would feel VERY uncomfortable with that face leering out into the room for no good reason!

[flamingpie2500]

45. Stinkin CNN has no link yet--figures

[Career Prole]

55. Now they do...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/25/ginsberg.swiftboat/index.html

[msanthrope]

47. Bets, Anyone? That Ginsburg just got a subpeona from the FEC? n/t

Place your bets------

[msanthrope]

48. C'mon, give me your odds!!!

[dbt]

49. Since when does a bu$hista do the RIGHT THING?

Ginsberg steps down so he "doesn't become a distraction?" How many members of the Regime have resigned when confronted with evidence of wrongdoing?

Did Ginsberg have to go before something LARGER hit the fan?

Something smells here.

:freak:
dbt

[msanthrope]

50. See right above---

I'm betting he got an FEC subpeona.

[Dawgs]

54. So What!!!

Since the media won't tell you about it, shall we highlight the extensive ties between The Poodle's campaign and the Bush-bashing Moveon.org? The lawyers for the DNC are doing the same thing. That's right...you have all this outrage on the left over all this supposed "coordination" but the Democrats are doing the exact same thing. You want a name? We have a name! The lawyer's name is Joe Sandler, and he works for both the DNC and Moveon.org.

This has nothing to do with anything. The DNC never said Sandler wasn't involved with MoveOn.org. The Bushies said there was no connection between them and the Swifties.

Boortz is a moron. He has no idea what he's talking about.

[Judi Lynn]

61. Hard to imagine that even among our slowest citizens

there's anyone truly slow enough to have the patience to listen to him.

I've seen him on cable tv for moments at a time, on several occassions and he's simply too odd. In real life, people always overlook people like him at the unconscious level. You simply don't find him interesting. Like Michael Savage.

If you bumped into either one of them in line anywhere, you wouldn't want to say anything to either one. They are unpleasant. They'd both breathe down your neck. They don't know their proper limits, as people. It's a lesson their parents should have taught them: healthy social conditioning.

Welcome to DU, Dawgs! :hi: :hi: :hi:

[jdj]

65. um,

you just wrote a profile for repugs in general.

no wonder they are so pissed all the time.

[SoCalDem]

62. Shine a light on vermin, and they run & hide..

One down...how many to go..:)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

66. Actually that's 2 down. Cordier resigned from Bush campaign Monday

I guess Kerry's charge that the Bush campaign is coordinating with SBV must hold some water.
Why are these people resigning? Did they do something wrong? Obviously they did.