Bush Calls McCain About Anti-Kerry Ads : read this!!!!!!!!!!

[ksatriyakiller]

Bush Calls McCain About Anti-Kerry Ads

1 minute ago

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

LAS CRUCES, N.M. - President Bush (news - web sites) wants to work with Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) to pursue court action against political ads by "shadowy" outside groups, the White House said Thursday amid growing pressure on the president to denounce attacks on John Kerry (news - web sites)'s war record.

"The president said if the court action doesn't work, that he would be willing to pursue legislative action with Sen. McCain on that," Bush spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters aboard Air Force One en route to New Mexico.


McCain, R-Ariz., has called on Bush to condemn the anti-Kerry ads, even as he is actively supporting Bush's re-election. McCain told The New York Times that he plans to personally "express my displeasure" to the president, the paper reported Thursday.


Bush called McCain from Air Force One and the two had a brief discussion about the matter, McClellan said.


The debate over Democratic nominee John Kerry's service in Vietnam has dominated the presidential race in recent weeks after the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth aired ads questioning Kerry's decorated record.

[liberalnurse]

1. Whow....how did you find this so fast?

I heard it on CNN and posted it......without a known link....


Great work!

[goforit]

32. This appears to be a PR set up to the max!!!!....Make Bush look good!!

Cut me some slack!!!

It would certainly be more noble for Bush
to take responsibility in ordering the whole F*cking
fiasco!!!

[lancdem]

2. More WH bullshit

I wonder what McCain will do? I do like this line: McCain, R-Ariz., has called on Bush to condemn the anti-Kerry ads, even as he is actively supporting Bush's re-election. McCain told The New York Times that he plans to personally "express my displeasure" to the president, the paper reported Thursday.

[kskiska]

48. Good article in NYT on McCain today

A Scarred Campaign Veteran, Caught in a New Crossfire

When a group calling itself Republicans for Clean Air attacked Senator John McCain's environmental record during the 2000 presidential primaries, Mr. McCain lashed out at his opponent, George W. Bush, urging Mr. Bush to "tell his sleazy Texas buddies to stop these negative ads.''

Now, Texas supporters of Mr. Bush are behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group attacking the Vietnam War record of Senator John Kerry, one of Mr. McCain's closest friends in the Senate. But this time, Mr. McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam who says he is furious over the latest advertisements, is campaigning vigorously to re-elect the president, which puts him in a difficult spot.

"It's personal to me because of my efforts to heal the wounds of the Vietnam War,'' Mr. McCain said in an interview on Wednesday, referring to the Swift boat advertisements. But, he added: "It's not personal to me because of anything that happened in the 2000 campaign because I must and have put anything disagreeable concerning the 2000 campaign behind me. Americans don't like a sore loser.''

But Mr. McCain cannot entirely put 2000 behind him because Mr. Kerry will not let him. On Wednesday, the Kerry camp began broadcasting commercials featuring Mr. McCain at a 2000 debate, rebuking Mr. Bush for going "over the line'' by standing alongside veterans who had complained that Mr. McCain abandoned them.

In the interview, Mr. McCain of Arizona said he wished Mr. Kerry "would not use my campaign for the Republican nomination against President Bush.''

more…
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/26/politics/campaign/26m...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. We won't tell lies about you if you don't tell the truth about us

[napi21]

4. Court action will take way too long to affect this election.

CNN also said shrub & McCain both want all 527 ads stopped.

I doubt this could make it through court anyway. Stopping all ads would be preventing free speech.

Does anyone see a problem with just making them declare who their contributors are and just sue the liers for liable/slander?

[robodruid]

41. Yes

When Kerry wins, the lawsuit will still be open.
They will have counter sued.
There would be lots of "discovery"
The media will be focused on this as Clinton's stuff.
It will not allow Kerry to advance his agenda.

[loudsue]

5. Bush only appreciates "free speech" when he approves the message...

NOT when people criticize HIM!!

This is going to be interesting!

:kick::kick:

[liberalnurse]

8. You sure hit the nail on the head there!

[lazarus]

6. Link, please

Also, I find amazing the position the pResident is taking. He's essentially taken a position clearly against free speech.

[hang a left]

14. Didn't * say once....

"there ought to be limits on free speech" I guess this is what he was talking about.

[chromotone]

20. Yeah...I remember that!

Bush criticizes Web site as malicious
Owner calls it a parody of White House bid
05/22/99

By Wayne Slater / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN - Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons his White House bid.

The designer of the unofficial Bush site described it on Friday as a parody and said the governor is trying to limit what is written about him on the Internet.

But Mr. Bush, a front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, had harsh words Friday for the site (www.gwbush.com), which offers mock interviews and policy initiatives on drugs and crime.

"There's a lot of garbage in politics, and, obviously, this is a garbage man," said Mr. Bush

http://orgs.bloomu.edu/policom/bushlite.net/bushlite.net/limits.html

Sure, Mr. Bush, but the amount of garbage in politics grew substantially after you were selected...

[noahmijo]

42. Actually he said worse

He said there ought to be limits to freedom

[AngryOldDem]

22. I'm Not Amazed At All

He's not doing this because he's suddenly had an attack of remorse.

And McCain should just cut himself loose from this campaign, if only to save whatever credibility he has left.

[hlthe2b]

7. Just an attempt to deflect attention from Kerry's FEC complaint and

Dem Congress' request that DOJ investigate Bush-Cheney campaign for collusion with the Swift Boat Liars...

[mstrsplinter326]

9. they are just mad because our 527 are beating theirs

the should just make 527s beholden to strict slander and libel laws.

that would work for everyone.

[Shallah Kali]

33. They are mad that our 527s are telling truth while they have only lies

That is why they are not going after lies by 527s and beefing up the laws.

[goforit]

34. Desparate people do desparate things when they are ROCK BOTTOM!!

[barb162]

51. I think the GOP slime /lie machine is just getting started

The last few weeks have been filled with all the swiftboat liars going on and on with utterly inadequate response from the Democrats. The Dem response has been: let's stick to the issues, let's not do negative campaigning, let's respond to individual swiftie charges, etc. When the damage is really done, the Dems finally come out swinging, sort of.... The Dems never took the offensive immediately, meaning, they should have started on where was Bush when he was supposed to be in the Guard, where's his medals, given the GOP a "you should apologize" routine that they are always giving to the Dems, etc. Should the Dems yesterday have been ASKING Bush to quit the swiftie ads? Asking daddy Bush to quit doing this to the Dmes????!!!!NO!!!! We should have been DEMANDING and DEMANDING as of a few weeks ago when they first started. And DEMANDING an apology for this slimy crap.

Now Bush is appearing again like he is taking a high road with the call to get non campaign ads off the air. Once the GOP ads do all of this destruction now he wants all 527 ads gone and beside that it looks really good in print, doesn't it.

Hastert just did a little talk about the Dems being obstructionist on health care. right

Oh Cheney is talking about his gay daughter and he's really a nice warm fuzzy guy. He's not Darth Vader as we all thought; he is a sensitive father of a gay who really supports gay rights. Yeah right.

Oh they are changing their stance on global warming. right

ETC.

Tnese guys are really incredibly good at manipulating, lyin and making it all work. The Dems need to take the offensive already.

[Mr.Green93]

10. link

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_SWIFT_BOAT_ADS?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=POLITICS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Gee, who signed the campaign reform act into law creating

these 527's? Isn't that a really big FLIP-FLOP?

[MrBenchley]

21. Actually the 527s existed BEFORE the Campaign Reform Finance Law....

I was surprised to find that out myself....the only reason they're linked in most people's minds is because Chimpy didn't know what was in the CFR that he signed....and HE said they were the result of the bill.

[searchingforlight]

12. This loyal Republican bull shit doesn't wash with me.

George W. Bush is a stain on this country and people who don't recognize it because of party loyalty are just as bad as he is.

John McCain had several choices: 1) support Bush, even though he has proven to be a liar and McCain has felt those wounds directly. 2) sit quietly on the sidelines and not allow himself to be used in such a highly visible way. 3) support John Kerry whom he knows to be a good man.

The GOP can scream if they like about comparing Bush with Hitler but the comparison of his followers with those of Hitler's is more truth than fiction when it comes to this blind support of this administration and it's mis-steps: Abu-Graib, all but abandoning Afghanistan, Iraq, corporate welfare, raping the environment, lies, lies and more lies - the list goes on and on.

On Edit: In my opiniion, any election reform should require the parties to have their nominating conventions within a week of one another so that one candidate is not at a scheduling disadvantage AND the incumbent party should have theirs first.

[bluedog]

13. YAHOO LINK

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&nci...

[0007]

17. link not working!

[bluedog]

27. yahoo corrected link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20040826/ap_on_el_pr/bush_swift_boat_ads

[Cocoa]

15. why no mention of the Kerry ads using McCain?

EVERY story about McCain should mention how Bush smeared McCain in 2000, and how McCain told Bush, "you should be ashamed of yourself."

This would be true even if Kerry hadn't made the ads, and now that Kerry has made the ads there's even less excuse not to report this.

[Bush was AWOL]

16. Has McCain condemned the ad Kerry used with him criticizing Bush?

[tblue37]

26. He said he was displeased

that his words were being used in the ad. (n/t)

[lancdem]

36. I can live with that

at least he's not calling for it to be pulled.

[Spoon]

49. It's been pulled:

KERRY TO TAKE DOWN McCAIN AD: "We respect John McCain's wishes, and will stop running the ads of him challenging Bush to denounce the attacks on his service. It's long past time that George Bush also take John McCain's advice and do the right thing by putting an end to the smears and lies attacking John Kerry's military service. George Bush needs to say this is wrong, he needs to say it must end," said Kerry spokesperson David Wade.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html

[leetrisck]

18. Gee, why didn't bush call the Texas Land Commissioner

w is for "wimp" - what a whiner and a crybaby.

[FlaGranny]

19. Everyone should be able to

make any ad they want - the only restriction being it must be absolutely, provably true in court and NOT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. Anything else - defamation of character and/or libel. Other than that, state clearly at the beginning and end of each ad - "This is a personal opinion only and not to be taken as fact." (or something like that). That would put everyone on a level playing field.

Edit: In fact, the above rules would be great for "news" programs too.

Second edit: TV "News" programs I believe have forgotten what an editorial is.

[EST]

52. Yeah! Yes! Ditto! True! Second! Amen! Right! Correct!

Way to go! Attaboy(girl)! Say it again! You go! Keerectomundo! Got my vote! Damn straight! A-firmative! Hear, hear! Yessir! Roger! Hell yes!Aye, aye! Da!
Ya! Oui,oui! Yay! You got it! Right on! Woo woo!
(Think it'll work?)

[displacedtexan]

23. How many times will McCain allow himself to be bushwhacked?

BushCo pulled this stunt to get out in front of McCain's "personally expressing his displeasure to the president."

McCain made his own bed long ago.

[bluedog]

29. I don't feel sorry for McCain at ALL

he let bush smear him.smear his family and now hes out hugging and kissing his ass....McCain has and never has had a backbone!

[goforit]

35. McCain has the psych of an used/abused spouse that can't let go.

Meanwhile our country goes to pot
with every one of his supportive actions for Bush.

He is an enabler.

So our country gets sicker and sicker!!!

[UTUSN]

24. Bwahahahahaahh. If Shrub Ever Denounces the Swiftbot Ads

in another gambit to appear "compassonate", the rabid wingnuts (his base) will stroke out, the way the fundies are trying to mute their rabid condemnation of CHEENEE's "Gay-freedom" statement. Bwahahaha.

[mtnester]

25. Unless the conversation went like this:

"Fuck you George, I am not going to help you do anymore shit, stop calling me".....click.... then my opinion of McCain has not changed.

McCain flushes his honor down the toilet every time he ponies up with * at all...either come out and stick it to him like you really want to and like * deserves, or shut your mouth...

Sorry to any McCain sympathizers, but I am sick of people like McCain talking out of the sides of their mouths and handing us shit on a silver platter. This election needs to be about doing what is best for this country, not what is best for your "niche."

[Virginian]

38. If McCain did that, he could be the next president.

If McCain stood his ground as a moderate, Bush would have to run on a third party platform.

[Hepburn]

28. Do you have a link to the article? TIA n/t

[Hepburn]

30. Sorry...spoke too soon...I found the link! n/t

[1monster]

31. to pursue court action against political ads by "shadowy" outside groups,

Wow, now Americans are being called '"shadowy" out side groups'!

So, if you express an opinion that is unfavorable to Bush and his gang, you become "shadowy" and "outside" ... another picture phrase for unAmerican?

[Judi Lynn]

39. Next we're "deadenders" and "insurgents!"

Either we're with _Bush or we're against _him. Should we just give up and smoke ourselves out and get it over with?

[DeadHead67]

37. Trying to equate groups like Move On.Org. with . . . .

. . .Repuke slime machines like Lying Vets for Fascism!!! That at least tells me that Move On must be having an effect if the shitheads feel threatened by it.:kick:

[drdtroit]

40. Bush, the ultimate POS

He got all of his lies about Kerry out there so now it's time to make sure he isn't confronted with the truth. I'm sorry but George you are a fucking asshole (excuse my Chenese).

[havocmom]

43. Still think bushco has something on McCain, probably from back about

the time of the Keating Five when McCain got off pretty easy. They probably helped pull his ass out of the fire likely after they set him up in the scheme to begin with.

Hey, they can't very well Wellstone or anthrax everyone into submission. One would be wise to assume they blackmail their own team members too. I would suspect any call bush* makes to McCain is a lot more than your usual arm twisting.

[Chovexani]

44. How the hell is McCain going to express his displeasure?

What, is he gonna crawl out from under Whistle-Ass' desk or something?

WTF does Rove have on this man?!

[trapper914]

45. Real gutsy...

...to call for the end of 527's after all the Swift Boat ads have already run.

Here's what I would like to see: A new set of broadcast guidelines for 527's. They'll get a political rate on the chosen media's rate card. The media outlet has a choice...accept the ad or don't. If it accepts, it MUST take all 527 ads at the political rate. This will keep the deeper pocketed organizations from dominating media with an overwhelming amount of cash, and will ensure each side has an opportunity to be heard...something the right wing media (Fox, Clear Channel) would hate.

[Catfight]

46. Bush needs to call KERRY and apologize! PERIOD!

[barb162]

47. I never saw a Republican apologize

to a Democrat and I don't think it will ever happen in my lifetime.

[Arcturus]

50. That would require him admitting fault.

Which, of course, he would never dream of doing.

[sofa king]

53. Together we can stamp out slime.