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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:44 PM
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FBI espionage probe goes beyond Israeli allegations, sources say
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 07:53 PM by cryingshame
Posted on Sat, Aug. 28, 2004

By Warren P. Strobel
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - An FBI probe into the handling of highly classified material by Pentagon civilians is broader than previously reported, and goes well beyond allegations that a single mid-level analyst gave a top-secret Iran policy document to Israel,three sources familiar with the investigation said Saturday.

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In addition, one said, FBI investigators in recent weeks have conducted interviews to determine whether Pentagon officials gave highly classified U.S. intelligence to a leading Iraqi exile group, the Iraqi National Congress, which may in turn have passed it on to Iran. INC leader Ahmed Chalabi has denied his group was involved in any wrongdoing.

The linkage, if any, between the two leak investigations, remains unclear.

But they both center on the office of Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith, the Pentagon's No. 3 official.

Feith's office, which oversees policy matters, has been the source of numerous controversies over the last three years. Hisoffice had close ties to Chalabi and was responsible for post-war Iraq planning that the administration has now acknowledged was inadequate. Before the war, Feith and his aides pushed the now-discredited theory that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was in league with al-Qaida.

That analyst, Larry Franklin, works for Feith's deputy, William Luti, and served as an important - albeit low-profile - advisor on Iran issues to Feith and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9524480.htm
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:46 PM
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1. Well, it's certainly all coming together just as several of my fave DU
authors have intimated that it would.

Holy fuck.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:50 PM
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2. link to story-
Edited on Sat Aug-28-04 07:55 PM by party_line
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/columnists/warren_p_strobel/9524480.htm

The story is already getting bigger and somewhat more clear.

BTW, Franklin lives in WV and works in Feith's office? That's some commute.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:54 PM
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3. There is a thread on G.D.
(Imagine: Plame) that deals with connections between the Plame case and the "spy" case.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:50 PM
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15. And a damn fine thread it is:
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CanIgonow Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:55 PM
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4. We have to remember the pedigree of Mr.Feith.He is a
descendant of one of the founders of Zionism and is an ardent zionist himself.He, if I am not mistaken, holds dual citizenship.Although, this does not automatically make him a culprit in this affair, he may very well have fostered the atmosphere that led to this disastrous miscallculation on the part of the Israelis.

As for the information that has been passed to the Iraqi National Congress, who else except our intrepid reporter Judith Miller herself can we put the finger on?Her unmistakable trademark is written large on this.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:35 PM
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13. Not merely a founder of Zionism
http://www.alternet.org/story/15481

"Perle's own protege is Douglas Feith, who is now Wolfowitz's deputy for policy and is widely known for his right-wing Likud position. And why not? His father, Philadelphia businessman and philanthropist Dalck Feith, was once a follower of the great revisionist Zionist leader, Vladimir Jabotinsky, in his native Poland back in the 1930s. The two Feiths were honored together in 1997 by the right-wing Zionist Organization of America (ZOA)."


Now, I don't know much about Jabotinsky -- but when I was growing up, I never heard him called a "great revisionist." Instead, I heard him called a fascist. So I Goggled a little and found this:

http://vladimir-jabotinsky.wikiverse.org/

"In 1929, Jabotinsky left Palestine to attend the Sixteenth Zionist Congress. The British authorities did not allow him to return. The movement he established gave birth to the Stern Gang, the Irgun, Herut and later the Likud Party in Israel. His greatest disciple became Menachem Begin, future prime minister of Israel.

<snip>

"Accusations have been made by a number of left-wing writers such as Shlomo Avineri and Christopher Hitchens that Jabotinsky's movement was 'fascist' in the 1930s. They point out that during this period Abba Ahimeir, Jabotinsky's lieutenant, had a column in the Revisionist Zionist magazine Doar Hayom which ran under the title 'From the Notebook of a Fascist' in which he would praise Mussolini and refer to Jabotinsky as 'our Duce;. Similarly, supporters of the Jabotinsky movement in Poland used the slogan 'Germany for Hitler, Palestine for us' in the mid-1930s."


In other words, Jabotinsky was both a terrorist (Stern Gang, Irgun) and a fascist. (Yeah, I know you can't trust Hitchins, but since this merely confirms what I was told as a kid by my left-wing Jewish parents, I'm fully inclined to believe it.)

This is particularly disquieting because Michael Ledeen has been the open advocate of a brand of fascism, and has close ties to the neo-fascist Italian right. (Those ties are probably why the forged Niger uranium documents were disseminated via Italian intelligence.) And many of the neocons are followers of Leo Strauss, who if not precisely a fascist was certainly an elitist with strong totalitarian tendencies.

The reality of Jewist fascism -- in the 30's and since -- is one of those things Jews don't like to talk about. But it's there in the neocon mix, and it's going to have to be confronted.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:55 PM
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5. where is Karen Kwiatkowski?? she'd know the dirt
can't wait for her take
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:59 PM
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6. Kwiatkowski, has described how senior Israeli military officers were somet
"A former Feith employee, Karen Kwiatkowski, has described how senior Israeli military officers were sometimes escorted to his Pentagon office without signing in as security regulations required. "
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:00 PM
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7. So they were leaking the Iran info to Chalabi
not realizing the FBI was monitoring. Then, FBI and State Dept people make the secret trip to Baghdad to raid Chalabi's offices without Rumsfeld's knowledge, and not even advising the military in Baghdad what they were doing. Chalabi had already given the info to Iran by then. Of course, then Chalabi became radioactive and the damage control began.

Hopefully this will be a lot more than just a single Jonathan Pollard type thing. This article seems to imply that it is more.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:17 PM
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10. Of course there is Much Much more, but this looks like the BFEE
has found their fall guy to take the blame for all of them. It is easy to follow the document cooking trail all the way up to Chaney and the White House.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:04 PM
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8. Katrina Leung... GOP Fundraiser Was A Chinese Spy
and her story broke last March...

Not only was she a Chinese spy but she was fucking the FBI agent who harassed Gore/Clinton for no reason.

Funny how when the GOP is involved the charge is never spying but something innocous sounding like "mishandling documents".

THE GOP IS COZY WITH SPYS.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:05 PM
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9. gee, this is old news for DUers
the admin got duped by Chalabi and they're trying to cover it all up.

Hey FBI! While you're at it, how about how Bushco showed the top secret war plans for the invasion to Prince Bandar???

HELLO? Anybody out there??? FBI? WHERE you are?
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CanIgonow Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:17 PM
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11. Does anybody else except me get the feeling we Americans are
the last to know what our Administration is doing?Almost everyone else, The Saudis, Israelis, Iranians, Iraqis all of them seem to know what is in the works.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:29 PM
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12. Who do you think is leaking this/? I bet its from the Pentagon
payback is a bitch, for Rumsfeld and Feith.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 08:37 PM
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14. dupe
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16. Duplicate
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