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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:23 AM
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CNN Reporting - Large Explosion in Kabul, Afghanistan.
Looked for a link, but there isn't one. There is a yet to be determined # of people killed. Said al Jazeera is saying that 6 or 7 American embassy vehicles are destroyed.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:28 AM
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1. Reuters link --
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:29 AM
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2. Explosion Hits Building in Afghan Capital, at Least One Killed
Afghanistan (AP) - A big explosion badly damaged a house in downtown Kabul Sunday, killing at least one man. The building was in flames.

The blast occurred in the Shar-e Naw district of central Kabul, an area of offices of international organizations and guesthouses used by their staff.

The building, which local residents said was used by foreigners, was badly damaged and was burning fiercely minutes after the blast. The windows were blown out of the surrounding buildings. Reporters saw the body of one man lying in the street in front of the house before Afghan police and foreign security guards - apparently Americans - pushed them back and closed the street.

The dead man appeared to be in uniform, but it was not clear if he was a soldier or a security guard or if he was Afghan or foreign. The mangled and charred wreckage of a car was also visible in front of the house. Afghans crowded round what appeared to be the engine block several hundred yards away, suggesting a car-bomb attack.


http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBXZTI9HYD.html
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:29 AM
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3. Well, just more peace and love in the world that *
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 09:30 AM by mbperrin
can take credit for.

(The sound of one head banging.)

edit for sound effect
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:32 AM
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4. Faux said it was the Dyncorp building.
CNN said 3 police trainers were killed.......
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:55 AM
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6. After looking at the links, it's hard to tell if it's the same story.
Thanks.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:17 AM
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8. It's just what I heard flipping channels
the name Dyncorp made my ears perk up. Mercenaries ya know.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:19 AM
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10. No, I think you are right.
If it's the scurity firm working for Karzai, it's probably Dyncorp.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:08 AM
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26. I just saw some footage on CNN
There were mercenaries running around everywhere (wheres the military?) oh right Iraq.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:23 AM
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11. Dyncorp fascists killed...what a shame.
Isn't there an axiom about "living by the sword and dying by the sword"?

Karma...ain't it a bitch.

JB
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:30 AM
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13. Depends
If they just blew up innocent afgans walking by a building...


One version has a school being bombed, dead kids, because they don't teach the taliban line.


I dont personally feel comfortable judging someones life or death.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:56 AM
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18. If you can't put the blame where it belongs on bush
don't be clebrating the death of our children, parents, etc whether they be DynCorp employees or Afghanistan civilians. The bastard in the white house is the person responsible for this.
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:03 AM
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21. Actually
The person who set off the explosion is responsible. A bolt action rifle with a scope is just as effective at taking life. So is an RPG.

Setting off high explosives in the street is one of many ways to kill people. The trade off is that it kills with no descrimination. Unlike a rifle or rpg which is aimed, directed fire.

Read my posts, I celebrate nothing. I said no matter who was killed I have no right to judge them. Don't put words in my mouth.

Not saying anything beyond that. I don't mant the topic to shift to the war.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:07 AM
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25. The reply wasn't to you - I didn't
say you did.
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:12 AM
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28. OK, no prob(NT)
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:06 AM
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24. No one is forcing people to work for DynCorp or go to Afghanistan
If you act as a civilian contractor (aka. mercenary) in a WAR ZONE, don't be surprised if you have an increased chance of being hurt or killed.

Death of any person is tragic, but if the death is due to a PERSONAL CHOICE to engage in risk behavior then don't ask me to be too sympathetic.

JB
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:10 AM
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27. Who the hell is asking you to be sympathetic?
Not me, that's for sure -
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:32 AM
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5. Ten, including 9 children, also killed by Afghanistan bomb last night
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 09:34 AM by DeepModem Mom
KABUL, Afghanistan An explosion has ripped through a school in southeastern Afghanistan -- killing nine children and an adult. The children were between the ages of seven and 15.

An Afghan official says it was caused by a bomb. The governor of that province says 15 people are injured -- three of them critically....

***

The facility is an Islamic school which also teaches a more modern syllabus set by the Afghan Education Ministry.

The governor says the school received funding from an international aid group -- something which could have made it a target for Taliban-led militants.

http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=2231949
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:14 AM
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7. BBC: Blast rocks Kabul foreign quarter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3610178.stm

At least five people have been killed in a powerful explosion in central Kabul, Afghan officials say.

The blast went off near a building housing a private US security firm that works with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, the officials said.

A huge crater was seen outside the building in the Shar-e-Naw area, where a number of international aid agencies are also located.

Police and witnesses said it appeared to have been a car bomb.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:19 AM
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9. Here it is. Faux said it was Dyncorp.........
The blast went off near a building housing a private US security firm that works with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, the officials said.

Boy that's big......
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:23 AM
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12. Dnycorp and the sex slave industry
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 10:29 AM by Joanne98
Maybe Dnycorp has started selling 12 year old Afgani girls.....

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Robert Capps

June 26, 2002 | Ben Johnston recoiled in horror when he heard one of his fellow helicopter mechanics at a U.S. Army base near Tuzla, Bosnia, brag one day in early 2000: "My girl's not a day over 12."

The man who uttered the statement -- a man in his 60s, by Johnston's estimate -- was not talking fondly about his granddaughter or daughter or another relative. He was bragging about the preteen he had purchased from a local brothel. Johnston, who'd gone to work as a civilian contractor mechanic for DynCorp Inc. after a six-year stint in the Army, had worked on helicopters for years, and he'd heard a lot of hangar talk. But never anything like this.


More and more often in those months, the talk among his co-workers had turned to boasts about owning prostitutes -- how young they were, how good they were in bed, how much they cost. And



http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2002/06/26/bosnia/

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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:51 AM
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17. Link
Was this covered any where else. I don't want to register for salon content?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:57 AM
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19. Yeah just google Dyncorp+sex. You"ll get an earful.......
The bastards fired the whistleblower and promoted the child molesters.
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:04 AM
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22. Will do, have said before, no lower form of life than a childmolester (NT)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:39 AM
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14. Reuters saying it was the Interpol Police office
KABUL (Reuters) - At least three American nationals involved in the training of Afghanistan's new police force were killed Sunday in a powerful blast in Kabul that also killed at least two Afghans, a defense ministry official told Reuters.
The official who declined to be named said that two Afghan policemen were killed in the explosion infront of the Interpol Police office and six other local police were injured.

He said there were some casualties among civilians too.

He added that the explosion was caused by explosives hidden in a car infront of the Interpol Police office.

The blast in the Shar-i-Naw area of Kabul, where dozens of aid agencies are located, also destroyed six vehicles.

Afghan police cordoned off the site of the explosion as ambulances rushed to the area to transfer injured people, witnesses said.

© Reuters
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:46 AM
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15. CNN reports that the Taliban is taking responsibility
But, gee, Bush* said the Taliban is no more. I'm so confu-u-u-sed! /sarcasm
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:47 AM
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16. CONFIRMED it was DNYCORP CNN saz.........
Oh course they forgot to mention that Dyncorp sells children for sex on the world market. GEE. I wonder if that had anything to do with the attack? the good news is, now we get to talk about what they REALLY do...........:)
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:00 AM
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20. At least Afghanistan is now a democracy,
so, that makes things right.
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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:06 AM
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23. A friend of mine was in Kabul yesterday
He's a journalist stationed there but he just left to go to the Shindad area to cover the Afghan National Army in that area.

Shit's too close for comfort.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:57 AM
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29. 15 killed in Kabul blasts, including 3 Americans - MSWHORE
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 01:00 PM
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30. ABC News - Explosion Kills 7 at U.S. Firm in Kabul
KABUL, Afghanistan Aug. 29, 2004 — An explosion tore through the office of an American security contractor in the heart of the Afghan capital Sunday, killing seven people, including two Americans, officials and witnesses said.

The explosion hit the office of Dyncorp Inc., a U.S. firm that provides security for Afghan President Hamid Karzai and works for the U.S. government in Iraq, said Nick Downie of the Afghanistan NGO Security Office.

"The explosion which occurred in front of the Kabul office of an international security company killed at least seven people," Karzai's office said in a statement. "Two Americans, three Nepalese and two Afghan nationals, including a child, have been confirmed dead."

Hours earlier, a blast at a southeastern Afghanistan school killed nine youngsters and one adult, the U.S. military said. The child victims were said to be between the ages of 7 and 15, said Paktia Gov. Asadullah Wafa. He said 15 other people were injured.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040829_906.html
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:01 PM
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31. Ask yourself the obvious question....
Why are US mercenaries guarding the Afghan "president"? The anwwer is the bomb...
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kungfugrip Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:58 PM
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32. What Taliban? The blond chick on FOX NEWS told me Bush...
wiped out the Taliban? What gives? Why is CNN lying to me?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:12 PM
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33. Mercenaries Bite the Dust
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Radius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:25 PM
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35. Abhorrent
A bunch of school kids "bit the dust" today in Afghanistan. They simultaneously blew up a a school. Calling someone something other than a person, merc, abortionist is a mental step that makes it easier to kill and to justify doing it.

I could probably find pictures of disjointed kids killed for learning the wrong thing, but I will not post them.

That was someones son.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 08:22 PM
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37. Agreed - it was and is
someone's son
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:17 PM
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34. At least ten dead
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 07:19 PM by 0007
"Aljazeera's correspondent in Kabul, Wali Allah Shahin, said the explosion was thought to have targeted the US Anti-Terrorism centre in Kabul and about 20 people, mostly Afghan guards, were killed in the attack.

He said six US Embassy cars were blown up in the blast on Sunday afternoon."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C4CC169A-6B82-48E1-B151-11C839E9E83A.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:46 PM
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36. Rivals Gang Up on Karzai, Seek a Champion
Agencies, Arab News

KABUL, 27 August 2004 — Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s rivals yesterday challenged him to quit the presidential race or face them in a public debate, even as they searched for a viable challenger to unite behind.

Karzai’s opponents believe the odds are unfairly stacked in his favor for an election on Oct. 9 that marks the climax of Afghanistan’s political transition, following the overthrow of the Taleban militia by US-led forces in late 2001.

“Since Karzai is abusing his position of power and monetary resources for the election, I and the council (of opposition candidates) support Karzai’s resignation,” Hamayoun Shah Asifi told a news conference flanked by 14 other challengers or their representatives.

Pedram said among those looking for an alternative to Karzai were the powerful governor of western Herat province, Ismail Khan and Defense Minister Mohammad Qasim Fahim, both of whom are Tajiks, ethnic Uzbek general Abdul Rashid Dostum and Hazara leader Mohammad Mohaqiq.
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2004%20News%20archives/August/27%20n/Rivals%20Gang%20Up%20on%20Karzai,%20Seek%20a%20Champion.htm

Ismail Khan, Qasim Fahim, and Dostum, some of the top Butchers of Afghanistan, get behind a candidate.

Karzai urged to try Afghan renegade commander
Governor Ismail Khan, a legendary fighter in the war of liberation against the Soviet Union and one-time prisoner of the Taliban, is a Tajik, whereas Amanullah Khan, like Karzai, is from the country's Pashtun majority.

Ismail Khan told Reuters on Saturday he had not committed his support to anyone in an election that marks the end of the phase of interim and transitional governments headed by Karzai since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001.

Ismail Khan also played down talk by a Tajik presidential candidate, Latif Pedram, that he was part of a group of mujahideen leaders and the Uzbek general Abdul Rashid Dostum searching for a common candidate to field against Karzai.

"No, this is not true. I have not formed any coalition with Pedram, Dostum, Mohaqiq or Qanuni about this," he said.
more
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ISL4776.htm

Karzai taking advantage of his power: challengers

KABUL: Fifteen presidential candidates hoping to unseat President Hamid Karzai in October elections complained on Thursday that the Afghan leader is using his position to gain an advantage in the electoral campaign and called on him to step down at a joint press conference.

The challengers said Karzai was spending government money on his re-election drive, and also criticised a government edict that bars them from going to universities and schools to promote themselves until the campaign formally kicks off on September 9.

“Karzai should resign. At the very least he should respond to our complaints and reassure the international community,” said Hamayoon Shah Asifi, one of the candidates.

Yunus Qanooni, a former education minister in Karzai’s Cabinet who is considered one of the main challengers, also called on Karzai to step down, saying it was “the best way to ensure that government facilities are not used in the campaign.” “The government wants to kill democracy on its very first day of life,” Qanooni said.
more
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_27-...

Karzai's opposition, however, doesn't like the way democracy has been scripted so far.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP297310.htm

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