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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:42 PM
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Clintons Talk Politics Before RNC
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 03:44 PM by Nambe
Associated Press


Former President Clinton, quoting scripture from a church pulpit, sought to frame the 2004 election in moral terms on Sunday and said President Bush's Christianity doesn't keep him from seeing things "through a glass darkly." ..

Before joining her husband at church, Sen. Clinton, D-N.Y., made the rounds of TV talk shows. When asked if she agreed with Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (news - web sites)'s call for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to resign, she said, "I'm hoping the entire administration is fired on Nov. 2."

Her husband, the former president, speaking at Riverside Church in upper Manhattan, said, "Politics and political involvement dictated by faith is not the exclusive province of the right wing." ..

Speaking of Bush's religious beliefs, he said, "I believe President Bush is a good Christian. I believe that his faith in Jesus saved him. I believe it gave him new purpose and direction to his life.

"But that doesn't mean that he doesn't see through a glass darkly," Clinton said, quoting a biblical phrase for not seeing clearly.

"It doesn't mean that you can have a bunch of people acting on your behalf and pretending like you don't know them, to say that the seven people who were on John Kerry's Swift boat don't know what they're talking about when they say he deserves the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts," Clinton said. ..

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:46 PM
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1. Rated and it's already a "4"!
bush="Consistently Wrong"
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:48 PM
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2. Now That's Good
For those of you not playing with a Southern accent, Clinton just said "President Bush is a good man, bless his heart, but he's dumb as a post"

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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:10 PM
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3. Hillary said today...Bush is consistent.......I give him that...
He is consistently WRONG! Ha! That should be used in an ad.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:15 PM
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4. Clinton's positive attitude was the key to his popularity
and he knew it.

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LauraK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 06:16 PM
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8. And he got this coverage from church!
Way to go Big Dog. I hope he does this every Sunday.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:50 PM
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5. I just heard him say that!
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 04:53 PM by Sophree
I love Bill Clinton!

"Seeing through a glass darkly," to me, means that all people can "see" things and be guided by God, but none of us is omniscient or able to look through a clear picture window at all things. It's more like looking through a beer bottle.

I think he's calling Bush out on his messianic delusions of grandeur and his inability to admit mistakes.

edit: And PopSixSquish, you're right, it was also a very genteel way of saying * is not the brightest bulb.

:bounce:
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:55 PM
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6. Also
I believe the entire quote was-

"But that doesn't mean that he doesn't see through a glass darkly like the rest of us."
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 05:11 PM
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7. Clinton's eloquence
I may have been disappointed in Big Dog in a variety of ways (politically), but he almost always puts things exactly right with his combination of optimism and critical thinking ... here, he's masterful.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 06:56 PM
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9. Is there a link to this speech?
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