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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:20 PM
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Bush campaign rallies convention's religious conservatives in private
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 06:21 PM by librechik
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/08/31/politics1855EDT0805.DTL

(The real business of the convention is done in secret, accompanied by furious praying...)

08-31) 15:55 PDT NEW YORK (AP) --

The Bush-Cheney campaign held a rally for religious conservatives behind closed doors Tuesday, as the GOP shifted public focus toward its more moderate representatives at the Republican convention.

The "Faith, Family & Freedom Rally" drew hundreds to the Grand Ballroom at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. Among the leaders who were introduced but did not speak were the Rev. Jerry Falwell, conservative activist Gary Bauer, and Tony Perkins, head of the conservative Family Research Council, according to several people who attended the event.

The campaign also distributed written endorsements from evangelical leaders including the Rev. Jack Graham, former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, and James Dobson of Focus on the Family, a Colorado ministry.

"I'll be voting for President Bush," Dobson wrote. "President Bush understands the great moral issues of our time."

(more at link)


duplicitous unAmerican witchery
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:23 PM
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1. Doesn't come as a surprise....
The Fudamentalists have long since hijacked the party....
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 10:41 PM
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19. They may have "hijacked" the party,
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 10:42 PM by Dhalgren
but the party sure is ashamed of them. The party doesn't want this particular set of freaks walking around trying to raise the dead during prime time (even though Dole and the old Bushes look like they could use some help). Makes it clear that the Republican brokers don't think that the "JAYZUZ!!!" crowd is really representative of "middle America". If the Repubs really think that their party reflects the "great majority" of Americans, why not trot out the slobbering pencil-necks and let everyone get a good look at them?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:24 PM
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2. Fine.
The state of Colorado rejects James Dobson and does not represent the State of Colorado as whole. John F. Kerry will win the Colorado electoral votes, and it is our hope that we will move to the left and finally boot the shithead Dobson out of our state via heavy tax levies and property taxes on religious right garbage such as Focus on the Family.

Hawkeye-X
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:15 PM
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10. A second to that sentiment...
...from Fort Collins. Deep blue, the state of Colorado, all over!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 09:45 PM
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18. Right On!
As far as Dobson is concerned, let's make us the party of
TAX AND END!
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:24 PM
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3. So why do they hide it under a bushel basket?
Could it be that they are like thieves in the night rather than a light to the world?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:25 PM
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4. Holy Crap
"President Bush understands the great moral issues of our time."

Wh-a-a-a-a-a?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:29 PM
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5. GRR
:grr:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:34 PM
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6. I thought they would
be proud of their base. Instead they hide them behind closed doors.

These people have no honor, no dignity, no honesty.

MzPip
:dem:
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:04 PM
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7. Rick Santorum to spew frothy Faith-based mixtures to Convention Wednesday
To keep the Christian hard-right base pacified (even at this late date), Senator Rick Santorum was hastily added to the Wednesday speaker's list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x791194

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x70955

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ttownman Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:10 PM
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8. What is wrong with prayer...private or public?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:16 PM
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11. not a darn thing in public or in private, but LOTS when it's in politics
:mad:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:07 PM
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14. aside from the fact that electoral politics should not promote any
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 08:10 PM by librechik
one, gov't approved, religion,( as is obvious in this case) and that we as taxpayers are paying for these activities, Dominionist prayers in themselves offend me.

They strike me as negative, coercive, conformist, and stinking of a group attempt to use chanting and magical religious words, repeated hypnotically just like the Nazis or Jim Jones got their followers to do, in a conscious, conspiratorial movement to influence events. According to type, they hide out as "normal Americans" knowing no one will question their establishment credentials.

Not being a Christian, and being an anthropologist, to me this behavior amounts to the definition of a witchcraft cult, and that's how I view these Christbots who gather together in secret covens and repeat ritualistic phrases as a group. They are not innocently praying for guidance, without preconception, as a normal Christian does. These "charismatics" have a group goal of ACCOMPLISHING something in the SECULAR world with those chants and prayers; secular things like riches, or success, or even PRAYING FOR A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE TO DIE, as Roberts and his followers did.

In my opinion they are nothing less than witches gathering in secret with their converts to do evil (make sure that a liar and murderer and anointed son of privilege, wins out over the people's choice) and of course they want to hide this activity.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:25 PM
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16. When it's used for political gain...lots!
Have you been conned by the pseudo-christians?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:26 PM
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17. adios
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:12 PM
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9. Bush must still reassure his base, clearly,
despite having kowtowed to their every wish for four years. I don't remember Kerry having to meet with anybody and make secret promises and deals with them at the convention, or have to hand out written endorsements. How weird is that, that Bush knows his base will doubt the endorsement unless its a signed document. Ever heard of that?
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 07:57 PM
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12. Are they ashamed of their base? Ashamed of their agenda?
So ashamed they have to meet behind closed doors?

Wow...must suck to be pushed into the closet and have your beloved Dear Leader unwilling to acknowledge you in public.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:00 PM
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13. Red-headed stepchildren, right this way ... n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:23 PM
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15. Gary Bauer...PNAC signatory.
This man is a danger to our country.
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