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Flint-oid Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:34 PM
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George Jr sent out of Texas by father as a 'drunken liability'
The US president, George Bush, was transferred to the Alabama National Guard during the Vietnam war because his drunken behaviour was a political liability to his father in Texas, the wife of one of his father's former confidants revealed yesterday.

Linda Allison told the political website Salon.com that throughout the time Mr Bush was in Alabama she never saw him in uniform and had no idea he was supposed to be in the National Guard.

"Georgie was raising a lot of hell in Houston, getting in trouble and embarrassing the family and they just really wanted to get him out of Houston." Asked if she had ever seen him in uniform Mrs Allison said: "Good Lord, no. I had no idea the National Guard was involved in his life."

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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:36 PM
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1. Thank you foreign press!
Although I did see this on CNN earlier.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:40 PM
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2. Yep, sure enough....look at poor george in this DRUNK VIDEO
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 08:41 PM by RedEarth
Courtesy of The Smoking Gun

If George W. Bush ends up in the White House, The Smoking Gun would like to be the first web outfit to formally offer Dubya an artifact for his future presidential library. The Republican's wacky performance in this 1992 wedding video excerpt--shot years after Bush went cold turkey in July 1986--needs to be preserved for future generations.
The video was shot at the August 29, 1992 wedding of Jamie Weiss, the daughter of Dubya's close friends Mike and Nancy Weiss. Mike, a Lubbock, Texas lawyer and CPA, was Bush's campaign chairman during his first political race (an unsuccessful 1978 congressional bid) and was one of the Texas governor's earliest political appointments. Nancy, also a Bush appointee, had a prime speaking slot on the final night of the Republican convention. She told the crowd, "I wish you could see how he reaches out to people, teasing those who can take it and protecting those who can't."



When cameraman T. Patrick Murray filmed Bush during the wedding reception at a Lubbock country club, the future governor took some rambling--and we presume good-natured--swipes at the newlyweds, the bride's parents, and her brother Kelly (Bush was being quizzed by a member of the bridal party). We love the part where teetotaler George actually disses two of the Weisses for supposedly not drinking or smoking. And as for those weird Don King-like "only in America" cracks--not to mention what's in that glass--your guess is as good as TSG's.

Click here for Bush's wacky wedding performance
(you'll need QuickTime to view the one-minute clip).

If you're QuickTime deficient, try this .avi file.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/bush/bush.html

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:26 AM
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16. Thanks now I KNOW
I'd rather have a beer with Kerry.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:55 AM
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29. Isn't quicktime for apple cpu's?
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:53 AM
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33. Not sure...I don't have an apple and I've used quicktime for several clips
that don't run on media player.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:42 PM
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3. That was then,this is now!
Lots of sober alcoholics functioning in society.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:44 PM
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5. And not one of them is named Bush
Once a drunk, forever a drunk
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:01 AM
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10. I've had a fair share
of education in my life regarding alcoholism.

I don't hold the fact Dim S*n is a "recovered" alcoholic against him. I hold the fact that he was drinking at least 5 years after he was ostensibly sober against him. If he valued his sobriety, if he valued his recovery, if he truly gave up the demon juice, he would have had to come to terms (many painful) with his past while cultivating a clear and cutting honesty in the process. To lie about his date of sobriety reflects a lack of sincerity in his "recovery."
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 02:16 AM
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15. Bush said that he was not an alcoholic
that he "had a drinking problem." (This was during the 2000 campaign, when someone asked him about his having been an alcoholic.)

A.A.'s First Step: "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol, that our lives had become unmanageable."

It doesn't sound like * thinks he's powerless over anything.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:55 PM
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43. NA for him too.
"We admitted that we were powerless over drugs, and our lives had become unmanageable"

Hawkeye-X
Sober for 135 days.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:16 AM
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22. It's his denial about being an alcoholic
that continues to label him a drunk. Many rcovering alcoholics are corner stones of our society, Ann Richards is a great example. H4e continues to display dry drunk behavior, the man is still a liar, hard to stay sober without being rigourosly honest.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:14 AM
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11. What makes you think he's sober? He's no friend of Bill Wilson
But I agree wit your defense of sober alcoholics functioning VERY well in society. Bush gives recovered alcoholics a bad name!!!
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dpakman91 Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:43 PM
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4. interesting
no surprise, that's for damn sure.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:08 PM
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7. Hi dpakman and welcome to DU. It sure beats watching the convention!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:50 PM
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6. Rove must love it that Democrats are forced to refight Vietnam
This is a trap. A distract to keep Democrats from our new Vietnam in Iraq.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 09:18 PM
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8. now he gets in trouble and embarrases America
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:33 AM
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9. kick
:kick:
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jljamison Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:52 AM
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12. Get real - this isn't going to stick

As much as I'd like a scandal weight to fall on Bush's shoulders, get real people, this is so 30 years ago. The democrats need better mud balls than this. I guess its worth a few laughs.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 02:07 AM
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14. Oh
I'm laughing
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:25 AM
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25. Every little bit helps.
There are far more important problems with Your President, but this Truth can be useful.

Afte all, he poses as a man of Character & a true Warrior!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:45 AM
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27. Dripping water hollows the stone.
Drip, drip, drip ...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:27 AM
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31. And how long ago was Vietnam?

They are making Kerry's record and behavior stick all day long.

The truth is that Bush was a substance abuser.

I'm not sure he is recovered.
Are you?

If there is a question in someones mind, the question needs to stay out there for the public to judge.

Have you noticed that the Swift Boaters are STILL telling Ads that Lie?

They don't care about telling lies,they just don't want us to beat them at their game.

Well Bush was a substance abuser, that is the TRUTH, not a Lie.

So let's run with it.

I talked to a lady last night. She was crying because she could not get her two grown daughters to vote for Kerry. Why? Because they were told in church that " Bush was just like Jesus."

He is NOT like Jesus. That is a lie but that is what they are told and they believe it.

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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:25 AM
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35. My my...
Someone's a ball of sunshine today. Welcome to DU.
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jljamison Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:18 PM
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38. you're right
I'm not a ball of sunshine today. I'm depressed because my candidate (Kerry) seems stuck in the mud. The swifties & the right wing were successful.

The jobs data, though not great, was not bad. That hurts Kerry.

The repubs, who now seem to be focusing more on Kerry's record, are stinging with their lies and distortions, and the media aren't doing enough work to point out the distortions.

Obviously its going to sway a bit to any candidate during and just after a convention. Give me a week or two!

Keep the faith.
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 05:01 PM
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40. Awww...
:hug: It'll get better, hopefully.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 02:06 AM
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13. On Sunday the former lieutenant governor of Texas
Ben Barnes will admit on the CBS primetime news programme 60 Minutes that he pulled strings to enrol Mr Bush in a unit of the Texas National Guard known as the Champagne Unit, because it had so many sons of prominent Texas politicians and businessmen.

:nuke:
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Flint-oid Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:49 AM
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17. Wednesday on 60 Mins II, not on Sunday
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:54 AM
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28. where are you getting this info? i can't find the interview listed on
either 60 min or 60 min II site.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:11 AM
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34. I heard that it was 60 Minutes, but a week from Sunday.
Not this Sunday, but next. Not positive. I have never heard anything about 60 Minutes II, ever. Someone might be muddying the waters. But why would a brand new poster want to do that?
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Flint-oid Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:03 PM
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37. Sunday, or Wed.? Keep checking
I saw Sunday, then wrote it down on my calendar.
Then I saw Wednesday, and changed my calendar.
However, now I can't find the Wed reference,
but have several that say Sunday.

Stay tuned.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:04 AM
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18. My Favorite Part: "Georgie"
I've been calling him Li'l Georgie, here on DU for 3 years. Turns out his surrogate nanny called him Georgie, too! Speaks volumes, methinks.
The Professor
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 06:25 PM
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41. Mine too. I think all Dem surrogates that make the talk show circuit
should, lather, rinse, repeat that little tidbit. In no time he'll blow his stack and reveal the scaly asshole underneath.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:02 PM
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44. He'll always be the Chimpanzee to me
Although "dim wit" comes to mind also.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:15 AM
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19. but, but, but he found Jebus or Jebus found him and God expunged
this behavior from his boarding pass to Heaven.
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chromotone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:23 AM
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24. ...with help from the State of Texas
What Is George Dubya hiding?
By Linda L. Starr and Bev Conover


June 4, 1999 | There have been so many revelations regarding the past scandals of the Bush family that this almost seems irrelevant. However, since George Dubya is apparently a presidential candidate, it is almost certain we should examine every aspect of his past to see if he is morally fit to become president.

We only question this since it seems to be of such paramount importance to the GOP that we had a salacious report on the sex life of our president blasted on every medium known to man. Having said that, we must now ask some rather curious questions ourselves.

Now why would George Dubya require a Texas driver's license with an entirely new number? It was obtained on March 31, 1995, as was his wife's Laura Welch Bush's. His wife and daughters didn't need new numbers, nor did his famous parents -- former president and first lady, George H. and Barbara Pierce Bush -- who all would seem to be at as much risk security-wise. And by the way, doesn't Texas require renewal of a driver's license every four years on one's birthday? Did George Dubya have something in his past to hide to cause him to purge the old record and number? This seems especially confusing since his birthday is July 6, 1946, but he obtained his new number on March 31, 1995 as a renewal.

Due to this little anomaly, we thought perhaps we should check to see if this was a common practice for former governors of Texas, but no, they were not listed among the first four numbers previous to Dubya's. Now, in all fairness to Dubya we must ask why he would get a new number and not just assume it was to hide something in his past life. And why would he be given the nine-digit DL number 000000005? His wife's DL number is 005295107.

(more)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/Redux/redux.html
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:16 AM
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20. A drunken Chimpanzee
Wow what a guy!!!
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GaryL Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:16 AM
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21. Kick
:kick:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:18 AM
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23. my my my.... what has the "puppet" done now
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:43 AM
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26. Poppy should have sent Georgie to detox.
But no, they packed him off to Alabama instead. Out of sight, out of mind. It's the BFEE way.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:35 AM
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32. They couldn't hide that....this way they can cover it up and make it
go away in case he was ever useful politically. :+
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:25 AM
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30. Shrub can thank the swifties for this. Their attacks on Kerry's Vietnam
service has opened the door to renewed scrutiny of his National Guard record. I don't like it because I don't think it has anything to do with anything but Bush needs to look no further than Carl Rove to blame for this blowback.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:36 AM
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36. It has to do with personal integrity. With honor.

An honorable person does what he pledges to do. Lil Georgie did not.

And what's with the new drivers licence in 1995? Did he kill someone? Was he involved in a vehicular homicide? That would be one reason for needing a new DL, so his driving record would be clean.

There has been so much scrubbing of this fool's past that you have to wonder who is the person behind the sneer.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 03:55 PM
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39. Would we could drive him back there
or out of the country for the liability he currently is.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 07:04 PM
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42. Arrested for Cocaine use?
Driving under the influence of Cocaine? That would surely warrant a scrubbing of all records.

McCain has said that Pres. Bush served with honor as did J. Kerry. This is a false view because GW Bush was AWOL and still accepted pay for duty that he did not fullfil. This is Dis-honorable.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:28 PM
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45. He used to be a drunken liability. Now, he's just a liability.
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