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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:15 AM
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Kerry Hits Back at GOP "Insults"
http://www.comcast.net/News/POLITICS//XML/1131_Presidential/c18344ec-5deb-4cab-a996-1e0817c97804.html

NEWARK, Ohio - In a scathing attack, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry accused Republicans of hiding President Bush's "record of failure" behind insults and promised a new direction for the country under a Kerry-Edwards administration.

Kerry, speaking to a midnight rally as Bush closed the GOP convention in New York with his acceptance speech, said the president was "unfit to lead this nation" because of the war in Iraq and his record on jobs, health care and energy prices.

He lashed out at the commander in chief and Vice President Dick Cheney for not serving in Vietnam during the war and for comments made during the convention about Kerry's fitness to occupy the Oval Office.

"I will not have my commitment to defend this country questioned by those who refused to serve when they could have and who misled America into Iraq," he told a crowd of thousands in Springfield.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:29 AM
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1. Ok
Why doesn't Kerry simply admit Iraq was a distraction from the real war on terror then?


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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:30 AM
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2. I wish he would lash out even more about the village idiot!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:33 AM
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3. i wish kerry wouLd Listen to me
he's gonna Lose big if he doesn't Listen to me, and campaign the way i want him to. :eyes:
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Tommy_Douglas Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:57 AM
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7. I think Kerry is doing fine...
I'm one of you guys but we have to admit we're a bit more left, and likely a lot more angry then many moderates and everyday Americans that don't spend time on political message boards.

It's sort of like Bush preaching extreme right wing things to his base. They eat that stuff up but it doesn't get him anywhere with moderates.

Trashing Bush makes our day, but a lot of the reasons we like it might not necessarily resonate with moderates.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:29 PM
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8. i'm kidding actuaLLy
mocking some of gLoomies here and eLsewhere.

i have faith in kerry - i've watched his campaigns before (and activeLy campaigned against him in 96' for weLd) and i have no doubt he knows what he's doing.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 08:52 AM
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4. But why just one bite at the apple on Iraq?
I was disappointed in the speech after the hype here last night. It was, largely, a stock Democratic campaign speech, other than the jab at Chenney.

As long as Kerry has not position either he or we are comfortable with on Iraq, we are all going to publicly squirm and Rove will just keep putting salt on the wound until we implode.

He needs to be stronger on Iraq. The war, like that in which he fought a generation ago, was a terrible mistake. Perhaps well intentioned by some, but largely the result of failures of leadership to see the reality beyond their own beliefs.

We must not wait for 58,000 to die before we recognize this. We cannot remake the Middle East into the Midwest at bayonet point. If we try, we will have to divert every last penny into the military, and our nation will go the way of the Soviet Union: a broken economy lorded over by a small cabal of plutocrats who profited from our misgovernance.

Yes, George Bush is leading us down the wrong path hear at home--presiding over the first contraction of employment since Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression, while our leading export is our jobs and factories--but they are leading us into the very maw of Hell in the Middle East. Every great nation which has tried what Bush and Chenney seek in the Middle East has crept home with its tail between its legs, most famously and recently the Soviet Union. But Bush and Chenney need only ask the historically literate of our allies in Great Britian of the wisdom of our actions.

Iraq was a mistake. Saddam Hussein was the blood enemy of those who attacked us on 9-11, and a chastened and contained little tyrant at that. The first gulf war and sanctions broke the back of his regime, and he was no longer a real threat to anyone beyond his borders. Yes, given the arguments presented by respected leaders like Collin Powell, many in the Congress gave the President the authority to compell Saddam to submit to real inspections, and to lay the rest the threat of weapons of mass distruction.

And it was working. Under the very real threat of American action, the doors were reopened to inspectors, and proscribed weapons such as long range missles were being destroyed. But for Bush and Chenney, 9-11 and W-M-D were merely an excuse for a great adventure in national building and good old fashioned imperialism. They had a plan to remake the middle east into a happy collection of peaceful democracies by making a public example of one dictator, and establishing a large U.S. military presence in the middle of the region.

History has shown that this is a terrible mistake, for which we will pay a high price if we persist. Two hundred billion and one thousand lives is enough. It is clear the adventure is failing. We need a President who recognizes this, and who is committed to establishing a peaceful status quo that threatens neither the U.S. nor Israel, or any other ally of ours.

But it is clear, in the post Osama bin Laden world, that the United States cannot do this alone. We remain in the view of most south Asians the "evil imperialist" of the cartoonish propoganda from the era of Vietnam. If we do not learn from our own recent history, we doom the next generation to their own futile war in Asia. We must make change in the mideast and elsewhere a project of the entire free world, and not just a fansaty of a few eggheads at the Pentagon.

Knonwing what we know how about the trust worthiness of our President and his carefully crafted intelligence, we know that the invasion of Iraq was a terrible mistake. What we need is new leadership that will recognize this fact, and use American ingenuity to make the most of a bad situation. We are in Iraq, and cannot just leave without a plan for stabilization of the region.

Bush has not plan. We must have a president who can see reality when it confronts him and who can act on it.

Note: Yes, this is starting to turn into a first-person statement, but I was once paid to write speeches. (And yes, there's some long, unbreathable lines in there, but hey, its a first draft....
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 09:44 AM
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5. Give the man time...
Hey, it's a first draft...


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:41 AM
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6. I'd like to see Kerry use ridicule and sarcasm more.
:shrug: I think it's more effective, especially when it's the truth.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:59 PM
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13. Not sarcasm. Many folks dont catch sarcasm. (nt)
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:33 PM
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9. Kerry strikes back and we at DUer still criticize him.
I get what many of you mean but for the love of god- give Kerry a chance- he's not a political amateur. He'll figure it out and get it right- he just won't resort to lies the way Bush, Inc. does.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:44 PM
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10. Yeah, what's up with that? I am giddy about the Cheney/Halliburton
comments, which lead to Cheney trading with Iran, which can lead to Kerry outing Iran Contra.

Damn you people are never satisfied, he did a masterful job last night and I can not wait to hear him say more.

Kick for Kerry!

Prayers for Big Dawg.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:53 PM
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12. Kerry can and has fudged a few facts
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 12:55 PM by Angel_O_Peace
to lash out at BushCo, but still the Dem platform tends to take the "moral high road", and what good will that do as we are moved further away from our constitution, our rights, our democracy by the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine? Politics is dirty, and until Kerry gets as down and dirty as the Bushites, it's going to be difficult to gain the upper hand in the polls and the eventual votes. Kerry is coming across as weak. I want him to be elected to POTUS, and while I think the debates are going to be telling and much in favor of Kerry, the demonization of the Dem party has gone on far too long, and too many senate Dems have allowed this to continue. Kerry needs to be an extremely strong representative of the Dem party, more so now than he has ever been. And I would like to see him denounce Bush for wearing ribbons of decoration that he never earned as seen in his "Mission Accomplished" flight suit pics. Then, Kerry needs to move away from the 'Nam issue, and continue to be tough and outspoken about what really matters right now: economy, jobs, taxes, the deficit, healthcare, and Iraq and the vets.



Above pic from this site:
http://twotom.home.mindspring.com/the_lemmingmaster.html

All IMO O8)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:46 PM
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11. Good for Kerry! Keep it up, John!
A hearty DU Huzzah!

:toast: :toast:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:01 PM
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14. The word "insults" doesn't need to be in quotes - it's a fact!
The media acts like "insults" is just Kerry's opinion when it's an indisputable fact.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:06 PM
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15. Umm . . . the MIDNIGHT rally was in Springfield, Ohio, last night.
Here's his Ohio schedule:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=172x1812

He was in Newark this morning.

Oh, who cares? As long as he's lashing, I don't care WHERE in this Buckeye state he does it!

Go get 'em, John!!

B-)
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