"Flying Triangle" sightings on the rise (MSNBC)

[Minstrel Boy]

"Flying Triangle" sightings on the rise

They have become legendary in UFO circles. Huge, silent-running "Flying Triangles" have been seen by ground observers creeping through the sky low and slow near cities, and quietly cruising over highways.

The National Institute for Discovery Science, or NIDS, has cataloged the Triangle sightings, sifting through and combining databases to take a hard look at the mystery craft. Based in Las Vegas, NIDS is a privately funded science institute with a strong research focusing on aerial phenomena. The results of their study have just been released, and lead to some unnerving, puzzling conclusions.

The study points out: "The United States is currently experiencing a wave of Flying Triangle sightings that may have intensified in the 1990s, especially towards the latter part of the 1990s. The wave continues. The Flying Triangles are being openly deployed over and near population centers, including in the vicinity of major interstate highways."

...

The NIDS study emphasizes that the flying of these vehicles may be more in harmony with an attempt to display or to be noticed. There appears to be little or no attempt to hide. That finding has led to a modification of an earlier NIDS hypothesis that the Triangles are covertly deployed Defense Department aircraft.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5897539/

NIDS black triangle database:
http://www.nidsci.org/articles/8_25trireport.php

Map of triangle sightings (nearby AFBs indicated by circles):



Black triangle photographed in Belgium during the 1989 "flap":


http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc413.htm

[Cush]

1. They're heeeeeere

[Tight_rope]

30. LMBAO....they've come to save us from Bush!

[leftofthedial]

51. maybe they brought bush

and are behind the neocon madness.

[Dem2theMax]

56. I'm heading up to my roof,

to put out a sign that says 'take me with you.' :D

[Cronus Protagonist]

59. DOn't worry BLUNDERWOMAN is here

She'll protect us.

[wickywom]

75. GET OFF OF WONDERWOMAN!

[The Doctor.]

2. Hmmmm....

This could mean the jeopardy of the 'Human Omega' is imminent.

Time is non-linear as we are prone to percieve it, they may be here to protect the future as a seamstress repairs a tapestry.

How amusing that this administration could in fact be the catalyst that brings our children to save us...


BTW- it's a long story, maybe I'll tell ya sometime.

:tinfoilhat:

[oasis]

63. I'd love to hear your story. I'm reading Greene's "Fabric of the Cosmos"

and it is facinating.

[Geo55]

3. THEY'RE HERE !!!!!!!!

[Zynx]

5. That is a great picture of Miller.

[Geo55]

6. Oh ...got you fooled too eh?

He just CALLS himself Zell Miller !

[allalone]

7. oh dear

I thought this was Robert Culp.

[Geo55]

8. Nah....Robert is a HANDSOME man...lol n/t

[Junkdrawer]

22. Another shot of Emperor Zell...

[Swamp Rat]

25. Hee hee! Me likes!

[Geo55]

41. Well done....."prettier" than my effort.

[Junkdrawer]

66. I can't take credit - It was on BuzzFlash...

If yours was original, great work. :thumbsup:

[kodi]

44. indeed.

one helluva' pix there. nicely done.

[havocmom]

4. any Zonie DUers remember Gov Symington and his alien pal at that

press conference? I never saw that man look so shook as that day when he was trying to get everybody to lighten up about that big ass UFO over Phoenix.

There were a lot of people all over the Valley of the Sun who got film of that puppy. Symington got orders (and threats, from the look of him) from somebody to get Zonies off the UFO watch after that one.

[Minstrel Boy]

10. Was that the "Phoenix Lights" or another event?

Nice little video here of them here:

http://edition.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/lights.large.20sec.mov

What were those lights in the Phoenix sky?
http://edition.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/

[shadu]

32. What were those lights in the Phoenix sky?

I remember that well.
One day the story was all over the news; the next day it was nowhere.

[JusticeForAll]

57. crud, this bothers me

I saw something similar to this back in 2001. There were fewer, and they were mostly stationary. I want to believe there is a rational explanation (though, is extra-terrestrialism that irrational?)

[ThoughtCriminal]

91. Much hype about nothing

Phoenix Lights:

Aircraft flying in formation (observed and reported by amateur astronomer through 13 inch telescope). Later flares fropped from aircraft. I've seen the exact same thing many times many times near the many training sites around here. Media hyped to to the extreme (especially by our local FOX affilliate). "Experts" did "Spectral analysis" of video (hilarious for videotape).

As for "Triangles", virtually all the sighting seem to be at night. It is very likely that observers are seeing three aircraft, sometimes more, in formation rather than a single large object. Three aircraft, unless they are in-line will ALWAYS form a triangle. The eye can fool you into thinking it is a single object, unless it passes in front of a bright star, planet or the Moon (all unlikely, especially in light polluted areas). It is also very difficult to judge distance - you can't really tell if it is a few hundred feet away or a couple of miles overhead. Again, this is something I have personally observed.

My 2 cents.

[0007]

95. Simple logic will dispel any suspicion of be being flim flimflamed.

[ellie]

11. I'm not in Arizona

but I would like to read about that! When did it happen?

[havocmom]

27. Must've been 97. I remember my daughter was in Australia at the

time and her Aussie pals were having quite a time giggling about it. She emailed me and asked what the hell was going on.

At the time, Symington was under federal investigation and in a LOT of trouble. He made a statement about needing to find out what it was. Next day or two, he held a press conference with an aide dressed as and alien. Tried to play the whole thing down but REALLY looked shaken. Somebody got to him, big time. And as I recall, he got off pretty easy on the fed raps he took.

[havocmom]

29. March of 97

here are some links for you to check out:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1281.htm

and google it:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Phoenix+ufo+&btnG=Google+Search

[ellie]

68. Thanks!

[RUSTY SHACKLEFORD]

9. Dude! I've seen one of those before!

I just thought it was a government fancy-pants aeroplane.

[Minstrel Boy]

16. How big was it?

Some of these things are described as being the size of two or three football fields. Did it make any noise? They're said to be virtually silent. Did it move like a conventional aircraft? These have been seen to hover, and fly both very slowly and extremely fast.

I think there may be many things being seen, all described as a "flying triangle." Some are most likely conventional "black" aircraft. Others are harder to explain, or they are so far into the black they use a supposedly impossible form of propulsion, like anti-gravity.

[RUSTY SHACKLEFORD]

18. Seriously, I did see one.

It was in Goose Creek South Carolina at night about two years ago in the vicinity of the Navy Weapons Station. I was driving up a road adjacent to the base that is lined with tall pine trees and it flew over at about 500-1000 feet. It was pretty big but a not bigger than a single football field would be my guess. Didn't hear any noise either, but I was driving. I thought it was a Stealth Fighter jet or some such since it was near a military base. In fact, I'm sure it must have been a military plane, but it looked just like that pic. Pretty cool.

[Minstrel Boy]

37. thanks for sharing that

I agree, I think there's a military link. What kind of link, I dunno. If they're covert craft, they're not shy about being seen or flying near highways and population centres. Which is kind of disturbing.

[Gregorian]

86. So have I!

Many years ago. Probably 1980. I lived in an area where commercial planes were common. So there was no doubt that we weren't confusing it with a plane. My best friend and I were simply standing on the driveway. Suddenly this monstrous array of lights went overhead quickly, and silently. We both looked at each other in complete amazement. There was absolutely no doubt that what we say was very different from anything we had ever seen before. How on earth could such a huge array of lights pass overhead without any noise, we both thought. I would also say about a football field in size.

I've since seen some other things that simply defy explanation. Strange star patterns that moved away when I looked at them. That one was very real. And subtle. I'll always remember it.

There's more where those came from. But honestly, I don't care a lot. It's cool. Mysterious. And I have to go to work tomorrow, even though they exist. Fun stuff.

[callous taoboy]

99. My mom and brother have

each seen UFOs. My mom, back in '72, was driving at night when she saw lights in the rear view mirror. She thought it was a car behind her, but it caught up to her fast and hovered just over the car. It was outlined in lights, not sure what shape. It made no noise and stayed with her for a bit and then moved forward and out of sight in a fraction of a second.

My brother was driving, during the day, sunny day, and was watching a Cessna landing at an airport near the highway. He noticed a silver disc trailing the plane. Just as the plane touched down the disc took off and gained altitude. He described it as a very bright silver color, with a single light in the middle. He pulled over to watch. It did several slow racetrack patterns over the airport, and he said that each time it banked so that the light was pointed at him it blinked three times. It started moving away from the airport so he got back in the car and exited the highway and took a country road to follow it.
It was over a field, gaining altitude and then was gone in a flash. He went to the airport, found the guy who had been flying the plane, but he hadn't seen anything. Wish I could see something like this.

[liberalmuse]

12. I love it!

NIDS is my old workplace! My old boss was in the news and posted here on DU a couple of weeks ago--he owns NIDS and an aerospace company that is sending a module into space sometime this year. I miss this job. :)

[Joanne98]

13. Even aliens hate Bush

They've come to save us from another stolen election. I bet these guys know how to deal with the e-voting machines. lol

[The Doctor.]

14. You may be more correct than you think...

:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilha:tinfoilhat:t:

[gulfcoastliberal]

15. FAA Handbook acknowledges UFOs,

CIA handbook instructs to scorn and ridicule reported sightings so people don't catch on. I bet Spielberg is an abductee; anyone who's seen Close Encounters knows he must have some personal experience with UFOs.

[Minstrel Boy]

17. "UFOs and the National Security State"

A great book for anyone who wants a sober study of the topic. And the author, Richard Dolan, has a great site:

http://keyholepublishing.com/index.html

[gulfcoastliberal]

Cool, thanks

I migt get one of the signed copies for my mom. She is into UFOs big-time. She made me a believer, plus her pilot friends who flew international flights said UFOs were a routine sight over the oceans.

[acmavm]

19. Could Space Signal Be Alien Contact?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=6&u=/nm/20040902/sc_nm/space_signals_dc

<snip>

LONDON (Reuters) - An unexplained radio signal from deep space could -- just might be -- contact from an alien civilization, New Scientist magazine reported on Thursday.

The signal, coming from a point between the Pisces and Aries constellations, has been picked up three times by a telescope in Puerto Rico.

New Scientist said the signal could be generated by a previously unknown astronomical phenomenon or even be a by-product from the telescope itself.

But the mystery beam has excited astronomers across the world.

<snip>

It was broadcast on the main frequency at which the universe's most common element, hydrogen, absorbs and emits energy, and which astronomers say is the most likely means by which aliens would advertise their presence.

-MORE-

[gulfcoastliberal]

Wow!

I didn't hear about that! Amazing - how long will it take to determine if the signal is artificial vs natural?

[acmavm]

28. Here's the other side of the story, only fair to give both:

Astronomers deny ET signal report

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3621608.stm

<snip>

Astronomers have moved swiftly to quell speculation they may have received a deep-space radio signal from ET.
It was reported on the internet that the signal had been found using the Seti@home screensaver that uses computer downtime to analyse sky data from telescopes.

But researchers connected with the project told BBC News Online on Thursday that no contact with extraterrestrials had been made.

"It's all hype and noise," said its chief scientist, Dr Dan Wertheimer. "We have nothing that is unusual. It's all out of proportion."

And Dr Paul Horowitz, of Harvard University, who specialises in hunting for possible alien contacts added: "It's not much of anything at all. We're not investigating it further."

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I don't know which way to go on this one because I don't know, or at least I don't believe, that they'd tell us if it was valid and contact had been made.

[Occulus]

53. I read that as well.

Conspicuously absent in the article debunking the signal is the actual source of the signal.

I find that omission very odd.

[Enraged_Ape]

31. Keep in mind that this signal (if real) is at least 1,000 years old.

The region of space that it is apparently coming from doesn't have any known objects in it for at least a thousand light years, which means any signal coming from that spot would take at least a thousand years to get here.

If it really were from an alien civilization, they could well be long gone by now.

All this assumes that the signal really IS from space, and not some glitch, an elaborate hoax, or some other odd terrestrial phenomenon. It may also be some odd astronomical thing that we don't know about yet.

But it's still pretty neat.

[gulfcoastliberal]

45. By the time our signals get 1000 light years out...

I don't think there will be a civilization left for ET to investigate.

[librechik]

20. Thanks--food for thought

guess I'm going to have to rethink my assumption that they are black ops DOD technology--do they let us test our x craft over Belgium or highly populated areas where the secret can be so easily observed?

[dqueue]

21. previous links?

Can anyone provide earlier links for: strange object hovering over Twin Cities, MN (I believe); low-freqency, house-shaking noise making people ill in Indiana?

Sorry, I just feel like wearing my tin-foil hat tonight, and haven't succeeded in finding the stories on DU...

[Minstrel Boy]

42. here you go:

Unknown Object Hovering In St. Paul Sky
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=763806

Mysterious booms make Fort Wayne homes shake
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795972

[dqueue]

74. thanks!

I appreciate it!

[loudsue]

23. I read in the Atlanta Journal about the ones they saw in Phoenix in 1995?6

It was somewhere between 1994 and 1996, I believe. There was a huge article in the Atlanta Journal & Constitution about the viewings in Phoenix, Arizona. Too many Arizonans had seen and photographed the things for it to be a hoax (the article said between 20,000 and 100,000 people saw them - spacecraft, plural). I've wondered SOOO many times, since then, why we never heard anything else about it!!

That is ONE GOOD REASON that people shouldn't pooh-pooh "conspiracy theorists" like they do: we know damn good and well there's way too much important information that the government is trying to make us ignore....too much stuff we KNOW they put a stupid spin on.

There's sumpin goin' on out there!!

I wonder if that's why the repukes act like they can do anything -- break any law -- they damn well please! Maybe they've been making deals with the pilots of these spacecraft. :tinfoilhat: Maybe they're the OWNERS of these spacecraft!! :tinfoilhat:

Maybe we've met the enemy...and they just finished their convention!!

Woooo this is spooky!!!

:kick::kick::kick:

[Swamp Rat]

24. When the flying trapezoids get here, then we're really fucked!

Don't vote for Bush! He's an alien lizard!

[Longhorn79]

26. When I worked at AFRL at Wright Patterson AFB

(where they supposedly took the Roswell aliens), I saw the B-2 prototype. If anybody here has read Nick Cook's "Hunt for Zero Point", he offers good evidence that Northrop Grumman designed an auxiliary electro-gravitic propulsion system on the leading and trailing edges of the B-2. This is supposedly a deep black project which uses a theory that unites the electromagnetic force and gravity. Anyway, they rolled the prototype out of the hangar to make room for a B-1 they were refurbishing, and it didn't have leading or trailing edges. Removing these is not standard by any means, so who knows?

Also, the two GE turbofans on the plane generate a thrust to weight ratio (full bomb load) far lower than the norm, which indirectly points to another propulsion type of some sort.

[Minstrel Boy]

40. "The Hunt for Zero Point" is a terrific and important book.

Cook makes a good case that electro-gravitic propulsion is a genuine deep black secret.

[Longhorn79]

43. I've always thought gravity and EM are the same thing.

Perhaps as the scale changes, different physical terms become important, but we already know EM is the same as the weak nuclear force courtesy of S. Weinberg. Things would be so elegant if there was only one true force, and different manifestations of it, in the universe.

[Occulus]

54. the fact we have a name for it means it's not much of a secret n/t

[Longhorn79]

58. Having a name for it and understanding how and what it is

are two very separate things.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

46. uh.oh...you know too much.

dude....what hangar?

[neuvocat]

33. I've seen some of those around DU.

Some people have them as avatars. I for one happen to welcome our new DU overlords!

[WillyT]

88. Speaking Of 'Overlords', Have You Seen This ???

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Movie News: Clarke's "End" to Make Odyssey to Screen

Did you ever read Sir Arthur C. Clarke's classic science fiction yarn, "Childhood's End"? Well, after many years it's finally gonna be on the big screen, probably.

Hollywood insiders say that Kimberly Peirce is in final talks to direct a movie adaptation of Clarke's "End." The novel, a fan favorite, tells the tale of "benevolent" alien visitors who first help, then turn on humans.

Some believe that "Childhood's End" was ripped off in the 80s by the "V" mini-series and subsequent television series. Sir Arthur himself, in my one-on-one cyber-interview with him in 2001, pooh-poohed the idea.

So, will "Childhood's End" REALLY make it to the big screen? Watch the skies for giant alien spaceships and further developments on this story.

Link: http://www.sciencefiction.com/portal/modules.php?name=News&pagenum=70

***************************************************************************

Kimberly Peirce directed 'Boys Don't Cry', so it seems to be in good hands. On the other hand, there have been rumors of CE coming to the big screen for years... so we'll see.

:shrug:

[JackieO]

34. Just because they act like they want to be seen...

doesn't mean they aren't DoD craft.

[kungfugrip]

35. I've actually seen one...in the Bronx no less.

I lived under the La Guardia flight path and what I saw was no plane. Sheesh.

[SouthernDaisy]

38. seen one too

I was with other people and what we saw was not a plane.

Do we get jeered for admitting a sighting? Just kiddin'.

[kungfugrip]

39. dunno...I saw 4 flying in formation. Silent. No blinking lights.

[PartyPooper]

36. Remember, people, Junior doesn't believe in "science".

To our fuhrer, this simply means Jesus is finally coming to take us all away to heaven!

:evilgrin:

[dqueue]

76. and these...

These are the bright, shining (albeing metallic, and light-flashing) angels sent from above. bush has even said he was compelled to run for president by "God" himself...

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

47. no obvious pattern on that map...no strong AFB correlation.

...but thats a great pix.

I suspect this is some black world thing...

[mainer]

73. I do see a pattern...

The more highly populated the region, the more sightings are reported. More people = more reports. It only makes sense.

[Chovexani]

48. Ack! Remember people...

It's a cookbook!!!

[WillyT]

87. LOL... 'To Serve Man' !!!

:evilgrin:

[Crachet2004]

49. I remember the first time I saw a picture of the SR71 Blackbird...

It was so futuristic looking, obviously high performance-truly awesome...and completely outdated.

The public didn't even know it existed, until it was retired from service. The govt. said they didn't have a replacement for it, that its high-flying, spying function would be taken over by satellites in orbit.

But you know how they lie. Nobody knows for sure, of course, but it was rumored a replacement HAD been developed. I am surprised that Aurora hasn't been mentioned on this thread. Named after a Greek Goddess, the Wind of the Dawn...very poetic. And by now, perhaps also nearly outdated.

I used to cruise the conspiracy and UFO sites, back when the Internet was first coming into its own...and of course, no one can say for sure, but if Aurora is real, by now, there has been time enough for several generations to have been developed. The original was supposed to have been triangle shaped (delta, or flying wing), and have a new kind of propulsion system.

The extremely large, silent triangles may not be so high tech at all-they may be inflated, rigid, lifting bodies...blimps. Silent, electric motor driven, heavy lifters. Imagine being able to carry cargo on the scale of ocean-going ships...through the air. How cool would that be? And what a surprise for an enemy, to have, say, an armored division appear in their rear, hundreds of miles away from the ocean.

Anyway, Aurora and the heavy lifter concept are my best guesses...some of the really fast ones may well be unmanned, allowing performance upgrades beyond human endurance. So, while I do believe the universe is far too vast for us to be alone, I figure we can look a lot closer to home to find the answer as to what the black triangles are.

But this is all just speculation, and no one can say for sure.

[American liberal]

50. OK, this is freaking me out...

I've seen the "black triangle." I was heading out of Chicago on I-94 heading east for Michigan. I was still pretty close to the city. There were street lights over the highway and lots of flashing lights in the sky (circling aircraft). Then all of a sudden I saw a triangle of lights zip across the sky within my field of vision to the right, then the left, then the right again--fast. Not like a plane or a satellite. I was beginning to think my eyes were playing tricks on me. Then this thing got brighter for a second right before it sped off and disappeared into the night sky. The whole experience lasted all of 10 seconds. "Did you see that?" I asked my companion. "What?"
"It was like dancing lights," I said. "It zigzagged really fast back and forth across the sky, then disappeard."
My friend said he didn't know what I was talking about.

This experience was probably about 20 years ago (I'm bad with placing memories in the right time) and I can still remember it clearly. Now I hear about these "black triangles." do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do (Twilight Zone theme)...

[Occulus]

52. Gravity propulsion? EM field propulsion?

I saw a show on the Discovery channel some time back that featured electromagnetic fields. Funny thing on that show- they had this big array of powerful, cylindrical electromagnets configured so the fields, when active, all converged on a small, hollow glass cylinder with an open top. Into this they placed various objects- jacks and a ball, a spider, water, and a frog.

When the fields were active, the objects- even the living things- levitated. What they were demonstrating was that any material- be it plastic, water, or living tissue- would become magnetized if the EM fields were strong enough. The array they were using generated a local EM field which was stronger than that of the Earth.

I'm wondering if this idea could be somehow used for propulsion. I also very firmly believe (and have been previously proven correct) that the strange craft we see in our skies are actually products of our military's black budget projects.

[Minstrel Boy]

55. Was that the "Hutchison Effect"?

I've seen similar videos from John Hutchison's home laboratory in Vancouver - levitation, "cold melting" and "jellification" of metals - by manipulating EM fields.

Nick Cook visits Hutchison near the end of The Hunt for Zero Point.

http://www.hutchisoneffect.org/ and more here.

[DavidFL]

62. Some have speculated Coral Castle in Florida was built...

by one man manipulating the earth's EM fields to levitate large blocks of coral and construct a castle out of them.

http://www.coralcastle.com/home.asp

[Pax Argent]

60. Attention all planets of the Solar Federation

Attention all planets of the Solar Federation.
We have assumed control.
We have assumed control.
We have assumed control.

[Swamp Rat]

61. 2112 fan here!

Man I wish I had that CD right now!!! I have an old, scratched album and no turntable. I literally learned how to play the guitar by playing along for hours and hours with Alex Lifeson. I used "Bastille Day" from "Caress of Steel" for an audition piece to get into a music school. They didn't like the music, but my guitar skills were pretty damn good for a 15 yr old.

[Occulus]

78. You cannot survive make your time

all your base are belong to us

[Borgnine]

64. I've always wanted to see one of those.

I was very, very young when I had a close encounter with a UFO, but it was a retro, saucer-style. Impacted me at an early age, and has gotten me interested in the unseen world ever since.

[Dover]

65. A report from Sydney Australia and MN./St. Paul

http://tamworth.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=332221&y=2004&m=8



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Unidentified white sphere over Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota

August 21, 2004 -

Thursday, August 19, 2004, unidentified white sphere
over Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota. Image © 2004 by Channel 5-TV (ABC) News.




Channel 5 Eyewitness News (ABC) in Minneapolis/St. Paul reports: "Aviation and weather experts are baffled by a mysterious object spotted in the skies over Minnesota. The large, shiny, white object was spotted by many people who contacted 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS Thursday. It appeared to be a balloon of some kind. The Federal Aviation Administration and the National Weather Service could not confirm exactly what the object was. Weather service meteorologists say it was not one of their balloons."

-------


And government interest in new "alien toys"


Computer Maker in an Alien World

http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,64736,00.html?tw=rss.CUL

[mtnester]

67. I always thought I was one of few or one of one who had seen one of these

Last November. Was outside just looking at the sky as November seems to produce amazing star viewing in these parts...a little brisk but not unpleasant, and it has more meteors during the month leading up the the meteor shower that is annual. Anyway, I was outside looking up, trying to spot the satellites, when cruising low, I would say geese flight height, was this black triangle. Actually, I brushed it off as geese until I realized the stars were blacked out IN BETWEEN the outline of the triangle. So as soon as I dismissed the geese at night theory, then I knew it was unexplained. Of course the fear came, and as I watched it, standing stock still, not breathing, and trying to become invisible or turn into a blade of grass (pay no attention to that person behind the curtain), it continued to cruise along....not a sound...no lights on it I could see. Most of my view of it was looking straight up.

If I dig up the calendar from last year, I can find the day of the week where I marked a triangle on that date, I am pretty sure it was a Monday. I am glad I am not the only one who has seen this.

BTW - central Ohio area FWIW

[goforit]

69. Welcome them!!!!

[henslee]

70. the Mothership has landed....

[ellie]

71. Bummer!

I have done a lot of driving in remote, desert areas as well as urban areas the past several years and haven't seen a thing. One night in Canyonlands in Utah a couple of years ago, I freaked out because I thought I was going to see something. But saw nothing.

[radwriter0555]

72. Look familiar???

http://static.zoovy.com/img/4armedforces/W300-H150-Bffffff/2005_USAF_B2_6

http://static.zoovy.com/img/4armedforces/W300-H150-Bffffff/2005_USAF_B2_1

[Minstrel Boy]

79. Hovering silent and low, the size of three football fields,

capable of extremely fast speeds and right-angle turns....

Does that sound familiar?

[Dover]

85. Yes, these are the government's handiwork, but HOW do they work

mechanically? Are they silent? What fuel do they require?

[wickywom]

77. Father , Son and Holy Ghost.

Amen.
I wonder what they look like-- Are they here for the christian scientists.
-- working out a pick up schedule to take the good people to the
heaven planet.

[DarbyUSMC]

80. This past 4th of July week I saw something in the sky over my area not

unlike what these triangles are described as. I checked it out until they disappeared. It never changed its pattern; it was not left over fireworks or a spotlight from some car lot or mall. There was an object in the middle and three objects circling around it about what looked like a half mile out from where it stayed, not moving. The image formed a triangle. Every six seconds the three objects would go toward the center object, hesitate for just a second and then go back out to continue their revolutions around the middle object. Six seconds later they'd do the same thing again. This went on for about two hours. I asked my neighbor some time later that month if he recalled seeing anything odd in the sky and he did as did others who had been sitting outside that night. (I live in an eighteen floor high-rise.) From my twelfth floor apartment the objects appeared at eye level ---- in an area between my building, a movie theater and a diner. I'm sure they were much higher than what they seemed, just as airplanes that fly over us are not really going to fly into my living room, as it looks like to me. I didn't "report" this because I had no camera and by the time anyone interested would have arrived, the objects would probably have been long gone. There was nothing on the news or in the paper the next day, unless I missed it. Now, reading this article, I am wondering even more if I didn't see something out of this world. They (the government) make even distinguished people from every walk of life seem nuts if they report a sighting. Hundreds of people claim to have been taken. Intricate details accompany the same basic facts of their abductions. Who or what will it take to be believed I wonder? What is the government afraid of? Do they think that people will panic and if so why? Would it be like in the movies where all the good old boys start shooting at anything or anyone that doesn't look just right? I hope we wouldn't do that but then look at what we've done to ruin our planets natural flow of life. Every time I read about a species being found where it doesn't belong my blood boils. Some idiots have dumped their formerly exotic pet or some such, into an area where it isn't indigenous and created major problems. One clear example is kudzu in Georgia. Great idea. Now we have that fish up there near the Chesapeake bay area that kills other fish and can move on land from one water source to another. Just what the doctor ordered. I don't know how the zebra muscles got into the Great Lakes and our NYS Finger Lakes but there they are. The African bees are another example of man's genius. Good grief. The icing on the cake is hunting until some species is almost extinct and then working for years trying to rebuild its population. It is like bombing the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan and then spending billions to rebuild it. Maybe it wasn't in the best of shape before the shock and awe but now it is a major rubble of stone. And then there's Agent Orange and whatever chemical that has given our Vets Gulf War Syndrome. Man is on the top of the food chain but on the bottom of the ladder when it comes to common sense. "Let's see, if we dump all of our sewage into the rivers and lakes, well, sure, we can still drink that water and bathe in it. Why not? The fish will die but what do we need them for anyway? God said the animals were ours to name and use as we wanted or something like that didn't he?" Men have tortured and battled each other since the beginning of their existence. Is there any reason to think it will ever change, unless those who decide to have a war fight it themselves. Send the Generals out there or the leaders of the countries. See how they can do on the battlefield with just a sling shot or weapon agreed upon. Better yet, a game of Chess; best three out of five. Anything but this useless loss of lives, both military and civilian. What a cryin' shame.

[The Stranger]

81. Well, they seem to have left Wyoming alone.

[Swamp Rat]

82. Not really. They have a pod production facility there

[Joanne98]

101. I saw something worse than Cheney last night........

Thomas Barnett on C-Span 1 giving a power point presentation called, "The pentagons new map". That guy definetly came from a pod.

[Columbia]

83. All your base are belong to us!

[TeeYiYi]

84. How long was the . . .

. . . Stealth Fighter kept under wraps before revealing its existence? It was triangular in shape. I would guess that this is just an offshoot of the Stealth Fighter that hasn't been made public yet.

TYY

[tonekat]

89. Ever seen a bunch of ....

...ultralight aircraft with lights flying in formation at night? It's pretty quiet, due to the tiny engines, and on first glimpse, you'd swear some monster craft was slowly crusing by. Usually it's done intentionally to freak people out. It's a pretty awesome sight!

[silvermachine]

90. UFO'S 10 Greatest Hits?...

I've had an interest in this topic for some time, though I am pretty out of the loop these days. I always thought that these were some of the more interesting reports/incidents, in no particular order other than how they popped into my head...Googling will yield some interesting results on all of these.

1.Cash/Landrum incident 1980
2.Iranian pilot near collision w/UFO Sept 1976 (aka Teheran "Dogfight")
3.UK Rendlesham UFO "landing" Dec. 1980
4.Lonnie Zamora, Socorro, New Mexico UFO landing 1964
5.Parker/Hickson UFO abduction 1973
6.Betty & Barney Hill UFO abduction 1961
7.Roswell "crash" 1947
8.Kecksberg PA UFO "crash" 1965
9.Franck Fontaine "abduction" 1979
10.Hudson Valley UFO sightings 1983-84

Of course, there are more but these are all quite interesting. I'm not vouching for the authenticity of ANY of these incidents, but they are all thought provoking and worth investigating, even for those that normally shun this topic. I almost didn't include Roswell since I think everyone's heard about it by now and it is much more complicated and nuanced than either sides proponents will admit to. In some ways, I think it's actually one of the least interesting of those that I listed. It will probably never be settled.

[Minstrel Boy]

92. Nice list!

Here's one that interests me, from October 4, 1955, cribbed from the first volume of Richard Dolan's excellent UFOs and the National Security State, page 181:

"One of the key UFO sightings of the year involved US Senator Richard Russell (D-Georgia), head of the Senate Armed Services Committee, during a trip to the Soviet Union on October 4, 1955. Russell was on a Soviet train from Kiev and passing through the Transcaucusus region. He was accompanied by Armed Services Committee consultant Ruben Efron and Lt Col E.U. Hathaway. Shortly after 7 pm, Russell looked out his window to see a disc-shaped object slowly ascending vertically. Its outer surface revolved slowly to the right, and a spark or flame emanated from the bottom. It reached an altitude of about six thousand feet, then headed north at a very fast speed. Russell rushed over to tell his two companions. Hathaway looked quickly enough to see the UFO; Efron missed it. To everyone's astonishment, a second disc then appeared about two minutes later and performed exactly the same maneuver as the first. This time all three men saw it. A distraught Soviet trainman then closed the curtains of the car, and directed the three not to look outside.

"The report went past Blue Book to much higher levels.... Aviation reporter Tom Towers tried to get the details from Russell, but received no response. After Towers tried again, Russell replied on January 17, 1956: 'I have discussed this matter with the affected agencies of the government, and they are of the opinion that it is not wise to publicize this matter at this time.'

"The matter was classified Top Secret until 1959 and remained Secret until 1985 when Stanton Friedman was able to get it declassified following a FOIA request. Interview notes about the sighting stated: 'There were two lights toward the inside of the disc, which remained stationary as the outer surface went around.... The aircraft was round, resembling a flying saucer.'"


And here's an excerpt from one of Dolan's recent essays, "The Real Wonderland":

"Another person I know – someone who is a fairly well-known celebrity in Western New York State – had a UFO sighting in May of 1980, just outside Syracuse. It was late afternoon on a sunny day. Driving with a friend, in the small town of Manlius, this person asked his companion if she could see the large object outside her window.

"She answered, 'I’m really glad you mentioned that, because I didn’t know what I was going to tell you.'

"According to this person (who also never reported his sighting to any organization), he and his companion got out of the car and watched what he described as 'right out of a Steven Spielberg movie.' It was a classic flying saucer. Silent, hovering over trees, 'as large as a football field.' It has rotating lights around the perimeter – red, green, and yellow, as he recalled. The object wasn’t doing anything – merely hovering silently and impossibly in broad daylight.

...

"The kicker of the story is this. He was sure that this would be on the T.V. news that night, and stayed up till 11 p.m., specifically to hear the much anticipated report about a massive UFO seen just outside Syracuse. But not only was there no story on any UFO, but it seemed to him as though the talking heads in Wonderland went out of their way to downplay anything odd at all. The new announcer actually said, 'another boring day in Syracuse.'

...

"In Wonderland, reality is upside down. Living in this world is like living on a nonstop LSD trip, in which the 'reality' we are being fed bears little to no resemblance to the actual experiences of people. In Wonderland, UFOs are imaginary."
http://keyholepublishing.com/The_Real_Wonderland.htm

[autorank]

93. Triangles replaced the black copters following me.

[allemand]

94. Pegasus X-47A ?

http://www.spacer.com/news/plane-x47a-01a.html

[mtnester]

96. Maybe, but does it fly under 300 feet and dead quiet?

absolutely silent?

[LibDemAlways]

102. Certainly looks plausible. Whatever

they are, you can be sure our tax dollars are paying for them. The government does an excellent job of hiding the "black" projects they don't want us - or anyone else - to know about.

[aikidoodler]

97. oooo...scary

NIDS might consider a simple Google image search in their quest for the mysterious black triangles.

take a look for yourself:

stealth fighter:
http://images.google.com/images?q=stealth+fighter&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

stealth bomber:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=stealth+bomber&btnG=Search

[Ohio rules]

98. Time to invest in

ALUMINUM FOIL futures ?

[Misunderestimator]

100. See that light in the middle? That's my eye...

[jokerman93]

103. that looks allot like aircraft

The picture looks allot like aircraft that having been flying over us all summer. Triangular craft moving slowly, silently, and very low from the South East into the bay area. I've watched them for minutes approach from the hills and come right over my apartment complex. I'm in Fremont.

Seen them plenty of times this summer. I thought they were stealth bombers on patrol. Maybe not.