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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:33 PM
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Bumper Sticker Sparks Ticket Fight
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One woman`s attempt to get tickets for tomorrow`s Bush rally ended when campaign workers caught a glimpse of her car.

Cherie Nelson says someone from the Bush/Cheney office accused her of being a protestor because she had anti-Bush stickers on her vehicle.

She says they tried to take her tickets.

In the end Nelson kept her tickets, But Erie County`s Republican chairman says the campaign has authority over who attends.
Nelson does not expected to be allowed inside Veterans Memorial Stadium for the rally.

An estimated 10,000 tickets have been handed out as of Friday afternoon.


Very Good Voter’s Guide
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billkurtmeyer Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:39 PM
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1. Nazi's what are they afraid of?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:44 PM
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2. Reality.
One of the things I love about this party.

When I went to see John Kerry in the middle of a pasture, all I had to do was pass the secret service.

There was no loyalty oath.

Everyone was welcome, and there were *Bush supporters all over the place.

I was actualy standing 2 feet from Kerry's daughter while she took pictures of her dad!

I leaned over and said 'Tell your dad thanks.'

She said she would!

Imagine getting that close to a *Bush daughter.

It would never happen.



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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:46 PM
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3. But would you want to?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:50 PM
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5. Not at all.
But that must mean something to 'swing' voters.

Imagine someone who isn't sure who they are going to vote for being forced to sign a loyalty oath just to see *Bush?

I know it would piss me off.

And I was just proud to be a part of a campaign that isn't afraid to let those in the other camp in.

That loyalty oath could cost *Bush a few votes.

At least I know it would turn me off if was on the fence.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:32 AM
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12. Curious - did the Bush people cause any problems at rally
you attended?

If I was Kerry, the DNC or a 527 I'd find a way to get this loyalty oath and that ordinary citizens can't see the President they pay who lives in "their house" at one of his rallies.
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The Shadow Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:01 AM
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8. Us! The People! n/t
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:48 PM
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4. "The campaign has authority over who attends"
I know the repukes disagree, but it seems to me every taxpayer ought to have the opportunity to hear the chimp speak. These cretins forget who is paying the moron's salary. Like it or not, it's you and me, and every one of us should be able to attend a campaign rally without a goon squad questioning our motives.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:31 AM
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11. It depends on who rented the venue.
If the venue was rented by the Repukes, they can say who can and cannot attend.

Also, please remember that time place and manner restrictions on the First Amendment have been heldto be valid.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:29 AM
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19. If the chimp was running for pres of a private
organization, I would agree with you. However, a US Pres is, by definition, Pres of all the people - and restricting event tickets to a select few "supporters" who promise not to disrupt tramples on the rights of everyone else. There is nothing in the Constitution that says a Pres. has a right to be shielded, at all costs, from his constituents.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:22 PM
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22. Sure they can. It's not against the law. Immoral. Anti-democratic.
But not illegal.

Lots of things are legal but are also immoral to many people.
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Meritaten1 Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 10:56 PM
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6. Remember when voters got to hear a Republican candidate
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 10:59 PM by Meritaten1
speak before deciding whether to vote for him or not?

The idea that anyone would presume to bar participants from a public event on the basis of their political views alone is completely obnoxious.

If there are any undecided voters reading this post, I hope you pay attention to how Bush and his Republican campaign staff are essentially distorting our system. Democratic forms of government require a marketplace of ideas, so views can be expressed and shared, debated and evaluated by the electorate.

At one time, attempts by one of the campaigns to effectively "screen" an audience would have been "the" big news story of the election!
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 11:28 PM
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7. His entourage and speeches
are becoming more like the SS every day, with the Gestapo protecting * like they did Hitler.

I might get flamed for this, but Hitler is beginning to sound more and more like a progressive in comparison with George W. Bush. Are we sure that he isn't the reincarnation of Adolph? If he isn't, Karl Rove surely might be. Or Rove is a Nazi himself.

Loyalty oaths indeed!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:22 AM
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17. Karl Rove was the first person to compare Bush to Hitler.
Of course Rove did it in a complimentary and admiring way.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:00 AM
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9. Michael Moore should send a film crew with her.
eom
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:58 AM
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16. Good idea! eom
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AmyDeLune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:12 AM
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10. I've been thinking...
Bush's rallys/speeches, etc., are all closed to the public affairs while Kerry's are open for all to attend. I've come to the conclusion that this is to keep the media from broadcasting a full Kerry speech, since they can't give Bush equal time because his appearances aren't open to the public.

Or maybe I'm just very tired and should go to bed now...:tinfoilhat:
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:51 AM
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13. No equal time requirements
the Fairness Doctrine was killed by Reagan and Bush I. There is no longer any such thing as "equal time." All time has to be purchased from the broadcast media who use our property, the airwaves belonging to the public, for free.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:57 AM
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14. I'm surprised
they can find that many people that want to attend.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:58 AM
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15. Why isn't this everywhere on the news?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:23 PM
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23. Because it makes the Republican Party look bad. (nt)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:36 PM
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24. Because the media have also signed the 'loyalty oath' to attend rallies.
Who says that anyone is permitted to see the Wee Führer without proven loyalty? How does anyone suppose the media people are able to attend? Can anyone really doubt that Candy Crowley signed the loyalty oath?

I'd say that media attendance at Wee Führer rallies where non-loyalists are banned is de facto proof of media complicity.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 06:51 AM
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25. I think because we aren't outraged enough. This should be kicked
in every day on DU as a reminder, we have HARD work ahead of us.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:46 AM
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18. Morons. Absolute morons.
Anyone who wanted to seriously disrupt a Bush rally wouldn't drop any hint whatsoever that they're against him. If someone really wants to start something at a Bush event, all they have to do is come dressed as an uber-supporter.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:26 AM
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20. True. They also should expect to be arrested. n/t
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:55 AM
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21. disgusting
These people are criminals. I have never heard of this before this election, from either party. Has any candidate in the history of the US ever required loyalty oaths before or only allowed members of their own party in to rallies or speeches by the candidate? I can't think if any. It is just despicable and, frankly, it reeks of fascism.
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