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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 05:56 AM
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LAT: Christian Conservatives Leave Convention in Great Spirits
THE RACE TO THE WHITE HOUSE
Christian Conservatives Leave Convention in Great Spirits

By James Rainey, Times Staff Writer


NEW YORK — They may have been pushed mostly out of the prime-time spotlight, but Christian conservatives left the Republican National Convention on Friday inspired by one of the most socially conservative party platforms in years and determined to reelect a president they viewed as an ideological soul mate.

In a variety of settings mostly removed from the main stage in New York this week, social conservatives trumpeted their support for President Bush and welcomed a return of the "culture wars" they first declared more than a decade ago.

Now, in the 60 days remaining before the election, they plan to register thousands of voters, whose names have been gleaned from church directories, and distribute an estimated 30 million voter guides in churches, malls and other locations. One activist recruited conservatives to infiltrate Democratic-leaning churches and report on liberal ministers who make overt political appeals on behalf of the Democratic candidate, Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts.

"President Bush supports God, and God supports President Bush, absolutely," said Judith H. Manning, an alternate delegate from Marietta, Ga., explaining the fervor for Bush. Some conservative activists had complained before the convention that their voices were being muffled. Bush gave only brief nods to their top issues in his nomination acceptance speech Thursday when he called for "a place for the unborn child" in society, expressed opposition to "activist judges" who had supported same-sex marriage and said that religious charities should be able to receive government funds to provide social services.

Still, conservatives left the convention energized. They had victories in platform votes, maintaining the Republican stance against abortion rights, backing Bush's call for a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages and supporting the limits he placed on research using stem cells from human embryos....


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-christians4sep04,1,1752532.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:00 AM
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1. I'm sure they did.
The little hate fest was very Christian like.
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:05 AM
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2. God I hate Fundies-brainwashed weak minded ignorant drones.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 03:49 PM
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14. notice how there seems to be way more of them around?
totally scary to me
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:10 PM
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15. You are right to be scared
I am scared too- these people are the modern
day "good" German citizenry. Off to the camps
we'll go if they have their way.
Anyone who is not "with them" is "against them"
and must be eliminated.
Make no mistake, they are deadly serious.
BHN
http://www.yuricareport.com
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:33 PM
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18. just took a fast look at the link
I just can't take this shit!

Glad you think the same. They are not just some bothersome little group...they are taking over. Once they do, this country is done as a republic and freedom, real Civil rights, etc., will be replaced by stronger forms of the Patriot ACt. Personally I believe this country is on a downward spiral and I just don't know how fast that will go. I think the country has already experienced a strong shift to the right over the last several years and it got a lot stronger with 9/11. There is nothing stopping it now; it will just get stronger. Well on that downer, I think I will check a reactionary website and piss off some biblebeaters by talking facts v. what's in Revelations for a few minutes.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:12 AM
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3. Reading this makes me insane
Who would be enough of a self-righteous, indignant, stubborn, egocentric BITCH to say that she knows that "God is on Bush's side?"

What a bunch of brainwashed fucks. They want a culture war -- I'll give it to them. I'm polishing my big orange aluminum baseball bat of modernity, right now.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 06:36 AM
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4. so, by declaring a culture war, aren't they declaring war on Amreica?
Since those of us who are not brain dead drones are the target of that war?

Krugman was correct when he said that these people hate America.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:07 AM
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8. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution against enamies foreign and
domestic.

It doesn't mean the same thing as when I was sworn in now.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:36 PM
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19. my lover boy Krugman
is he the greatest or what. About once a week I write to him and tell him he outdid himself on the latest column. He is too cool.
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jackofhearts Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:25 AM
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5. The republican party strays far from Jesus
For these people to claim some sort of allegiance to Jesus and his teachings is hypocrisy at a deep and dark level. They will scream about the 10 commandments yet probably could not begin to explain the beatitudes. They get worked up into a militaristic fervor while Jesus spoke of peace and turning the other cheek. They judge harshly all those who they deem sinners while Jesus says we are not to judge. They hold "sinners" in contempt while Jesus puts forgiveness as a core value. They speak of the sanctity of life while supporting illegal wars that kill 10s of 1000s of innocent men, women and children and supporting the death penalty.

Ask them if they think Jesus would have approved of bush's "war". Ask them if Jesus would be on the side of those who torture. Ask them why they are so concerned about the unborn but find the killing and maiming and of children Iraq as simply "regrettable" or some such shit. Put the questions to them in the context of Jesus true teachings and they cower because they either don't really know what his teachings meant or they know they really don't live as he asked us to. They are pathetic brainwashed robots who will cast a vote for bush simply because he claims to be a Christian when in fact all his actions go directly against all of Jesus' core teachings.

God sees no flags. God sees no boundaries or culture or skin color. To think that God has blessed America is sick and deluded. And yet the republican nazis would have us all living under this premise if they could. May all republicans rot in the hell they claim exists.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 03:20 PM
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13. Amen and Welcome to DU-
Great post- you nailed it.
Real Christians are watching in horror
as these "True Believers" as Eric Hoffer called them,
hijack our faith in the name of furthering their rabid
hatefest.
Jesus will say to them, "I never knew you."
BHN



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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:54 AM
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6. Cheap Labor Conservatives !!!!! hateful bunch
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:35 PM
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22. "Cheap Labor Conservatives"
LOVE THAT! Loved the site.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:59 AM
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7. I just don't get it.
:shrug:

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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:32 AM
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9. They are smarter than those purist type "progrssives" we hear from here
They know when it comes to Bush and Kerry- Bush is the clear choice for them. They are smart enough to know window dressing when they see it- unlike the defeatist elitist that post here sometimes.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:32 AM
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10. Shrub Got Them in Bed


By allowing government funding of Faith Based organization as well as further tax reforms for those giving $$$ on Sunday.


But by them sitting in MSG and chanting support for those who spewed garbage/hate from the stage puts them into the catagory of HYPOCRITE.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:36 AM
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11. "God supports President Bush" = 'Gott Mit Uns'
All the same tools and techniques of 20th-century fascism. I wonder what Kapos get paid these days.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:11 PM
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16. "God supports President Bush"
"President Bush supports God, and God supports President Bush, absolutely," said Judith H. Manning, an alternate delegate from Marietta, Ga., explaining the fervor for Bush.

Why bother with elections if GAWD, who is not even an American citizen or a registered voter, wants to impose His/Her/It/Their political view(s) on everyone else. Let's just ask the Almighty who he wants for Prez and save ourselves the expense of having primaries and elections.

I wonder who GAWD wants for Indiana Governor?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 03:12 PM
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12.  Well, they got their hate tanks all topped off
for some good bible thumpin' in the AM!.......... Excuse me while I vomit.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:28 PM
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17. That reminds me of
that special enthusiasm liberals had at the McGovern convention in getting all their planks finally, presuming in the transfer of grass roots success to the national election. Of course the internal grumbling or despair among GOP stalwarts will not be heard as it is always with Dems.

When I hear that I have to laugh. In a bloodbath, their whole agenda might crash down with the lousy candidate they are stuck with and who- like McGovern underperformed for the majority of voters and glossed over the radical agenda too.

A lot more disciplined BS, good media, no dramatic undercutting like the Eagleton Veep affair to crystallize the dissatisfaction of the majority, but in the end the very same hollow enthusiasm. Or rather, physically, spiritually gutted puffery.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 04:58 PM
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20. My god
we're going backwards instead of forward. I wish these people would wake up and smell the malevolence of the creeping fungus growing in this country which starts right now at the oval office.
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:44 PM
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21. They beheld the face of their god. Of course they're in great spirits.
Plus, there was a podium with a cross on the pulpit and a sea of white faces. Almost heaven.
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