Pope denounces gay marriage in Canada

[Khephra]

VATICAN CITY -- Pope John Paul II kept up his campaign against gay marriage Saturday, telling the ambassador from Canada - where some provinces allow same-sex couples to wed - that such unions create a "false understanding" of marriage.

In past months, the pope urged authorities to stop approving gay marriages, saying that they degrade the true sense of marriage.

The pope spoke Saturday to the new Canadian Ambassador to the Holy See, Donald Smith.

"The institution of marriage necessarily entails the complementarity of husbands and wives who participate in God's creative activity through the raising of children," said the pontiff, according to the text of the speech released by the Vatican.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Vatican%20Gay%20Marriage

[no_hypocrisy]

1. OK, but how does the Pope feel about gay marriage in the U.S.?

Rim-shot please (ba-ba-BOM!)

[Maple]

2. None of us

asked him for his opinion.

[2Design]

3. so what......!!!!! so he is against the natural order of things...catholic

so out of touch with reality....his homo priests are his problem....pay attention to your own house pope

[dand]

4. That old man has been dead for years,

he is being propped up by a gang of child rapists with their own protection racket, I am amazed that anyone is left in the Catholic Church, I gave it up years ago.

[Citizen Daryl]

5. Same crap, different asshole.

A man taking a vow of celibacy has no more authority to talk about marriage than a straight person has to talk about homosexuality.

[Spazito]

6. Big deal, no surprise there...

Canada will say thanks for your opinion but we have one too and it doesn't correspond with yours.

[TahitiNut]

7. And that's why people have a CHOICE of religions.

Newsflash for JP2: The days of a Catholic Hegemony over "the divine rights of kings" are gone. You have absolutely no legitimate standing in imposing the canons of your church upon secular governments. A secular marriage is NOT a sacrament! Just because you also refuse to permit the marriage of Catholic to non-Catholic (without coercive agreements) doesn't mean the state (and other religions) cannot recognize those marriages.

[TwentyFive]

8. Pope should only preach to Catholics - not governments or non-Catholics

[barbaraann]

9. Has he made a statement about the Borgia Popes?

For example:

ALEXANDER VI: (1431 - 1503, Pope from 1492 - 1503)

Alexander is the most notorious pope in all of history. He conducted a pontificate of nepotism, greed, ruthlessness, murder, and, as McBrien has described it, "unbridled sensuality." He became the leading figure in the saga of the Borgia family, both as a perpetuator of evil and a facilitator of the activities of the two most famous of his children, Cesare and Lucrezia.

The second and last of the Spanish popes literally bought his pontificate with bribes. Such a purchased election is called "simoniacal," and was easily accomplished with the greed of seventeen of the twenty-two cardinals voting for the new pope.

Alexander VI Adoring the Risen Christ (Pinturicchio)
He was born Rodrigo Borgia near Valencia, Spain, the nephew of Callixtus, who made him a cardinal at the age of twenty-five (1456) and vice-chancellor of the Holy See (1457). As vice-chancellor, he amassed great wealth, lived an openly promiscuous life, and fathered seven children, both as a cardinal and the pope. Pius II, who had succeeded Callixtus and continued to support the rise in the church hierarchy of Cardinal Rodrigo Borgia, had to warn the young cardinal to refrain from his practice of participating in orgies. It was, as Pius expressed it, "unseemly."
...
While a cardinal, he took as his mistress Vannozza de Catanei who bore him four children, including Cesare (born 1475) and Lucrezia (born, 1480). By the time he became pope in 1492, he had cast off Vannozza and acquired as a mistress the young Guilia Farenese, who was probably the mother of two or three additional children sired by Alexander. Before Vannozza, Rodrigo had fathered at least two children by one or more women whose names are lost to history.
...
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/borgias/2.html?sect=6

THIS IS A FASCINATING READ. I would like to see a good historian compare the evil of the Bushes and Borgias.

[tuvor]

10. Come over here and say that, JP.

After you've finished fixing that pedophilia thing. Hell of a plank in your eye, there.