Poll: The bounce is already fading ...

[annxburns]

according to Rasmussen.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm

[ixion]

1. and fading fast...

who are these wishy washy voters? :crazy:

[Frodo]

2. Never trusted Rassmussen before - won't start now. n/t

[private_ryan]

21. however

they always had the race within a few points (like most polls) and recently had a 4-5 bounce for chimpy. Now it's less, so it's a trend.

[Norbert]

25. On the other hand

a 13-14 point voter swing from preconvention polling (ABC comes to mind) seems a little far-fetched.

[Doosh]

3. Bush 47.6 Kerry 46.4, thanks Frances!

[Massacure]

12. It is the convetion, not frances...

[Pirate Smile]

32. The RNC has got little or no post-Convention coverage because

of Frances.

[jab105]

4. DAMN THOSE FLIP FLOP VOTERS!!

haa!

THis shoudl be fun:
Today, at 3:00 p.m. Eastern, we will release favorability ratings for Zell Miller, Bill Frist, Tom Delay, and others. At that time, we will also provide a brief analysis of the President's Convention bounce in the polls.

[liberalcanuck]

6. I know I'm not the only one who found Bill Frist extremely weird.

His speech was so damn lame -- in fact the whole week weirded me out. I couldn't help watching it (that know thy enemy stuff) or I should more accurately say drifting in and out of consciousness and hearing the odd word here and there. For a moment during Frist's speech I was stuck in a strange Mulberry, Leave It Beaver time warp, transfixed by his junior Lott-like helmet.

[Mz Pip]

10. Loved Jon Stewart's

observation of Frist and a few other GOP speaker's hair: "This is what you look like when you won't let gay people touch you."

The 50s certainly were better than today. Eisenhower was a Republican and he didn't wreck the country. Thing is there is nothing Bunnypants can do to turn back the clock.

We are here now, and it sucks.

MzPip
:dem:

[Arugula Latte]

11. The 50s

While some things about the 50s may have been better than today, I wouldn't want to go back to the days of "whites only" restrooms and women-in-their-place.

[Mz Pip]

14. Geez,

I said they were better, not perfect. There wasn't the polarization in the country that we have now. I sometimes think we are on the verge of another civil war.

MzPip
:dem:

[llmart]

15. I don't know how old you are.....

but I grew up in that mythical 50's. Believe me, they were NOT better. That is why the rebellion of the 60's took place.

[struggle4progress]

20. Hah! Read Fast's "Being Red." eom

[agingdem]

13. Oh, ya...the 50's were so great (sarcasm)

I'm old enough to remember Joseph MCarthy and the blacklists and the loyalty oaths...sound familiar?

[Seabiscuit]

19. I'm with you guys...

Born before Hiroshima and Nagasaki, grew up in the 50's, rebelled in the 60's. I remember it like it was yesterday.

[Mz Pip]

22. So you think things

are better today? Do you really think that if Bush is re-elected there will be any chance of a progressive rebirth in our life time? You really believe that Bush is better than Eisenhower? You really believe Bush is better than Eisenhower who warned us of the military industrial complex? If that is the case then what are we all so freaked out about a second Bush term?

MzPip
:dem:

[Seabiscuit]

28. "So you think..." ?????

Just because I said I lived through it doesn't give cause for anyone to respond with words like "so you think" and then put words in my mouth. If you're prentending to have psychic abilities, you've got to be the worst psychic in the world.

Things were not "good" in the 50's. They improved vastly in the 60's. What do you think we were rebelling against in the 60's?

Bush better than Eisenhower? GMAFB. Eisenhower had his strenghts and weaknesses. Bush, as we all know, is by far the worst president in history. Bush has nothing but weaknesses.

[Mz Pip]

29. I never said

"good." Now who's putting words in mouths.

Good grief. Lighten up.

MzPip
:dem:

[Seabiscuit]

35. I never said that you said "good"

That was my first expression of *my* opinion of the 50's.

Why should I "lighten up" when you put all those outrageous words into my mouth? Go back and read your post responding to my original post. And think about it before flying off the handle again like that. And remember, all I said in my first post was, in essence, that I had grown up in the 50's and rebelled in the 60's. I had made no value judgments in that original post about either that time or the current time. Yet you jumped to all these insane conclusions in your post about what you presumed to be my thoughts on subjects you raised. Sorry if you don't get it, but to ordinary people, such tactics are extremely offensive.

[Seabiscuit]

36. If you really want to know my opinion,

it's that things are far worse politically in this country today than they've ever been, and economically worse than anything since the Great Depression. Socially and culturally, we're still backwards compared to European countries.

The 50's were a time of post-war economic boom, political blandness, social dullness, but full of racism, McCarthyism, etc., etc. - on reflection, not a very pretty picture. But at least we had Walter Cronkite and a press that wasn't the personal property of a neo-con right wing group of historically irrelevant monsters who have voraciously gobbled up our press today.

There were some very ugly things happening in the 50's.

There are some very ugly things happening right now.

It really doesn't occur to me to try to compare them. They're just too different in too many ways. I wouldn't want to live through the 50's again, but I suppose I'd take it over four more years of corporate neocons controlling the White House, Congress, the Courts, and the Media.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. If you think the 50s were better than today, then you must know...

...very little about Joe McCarthy and the "Hollywood Blacklist", J. Edgar Hoover and the tactics he used to blackmail certain politicians, and the constant saber-rattling of the U. S. military.

History is your friend...try reading some.

[Mz Pip]

34. If Bush gets a second

term, Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover will seem like boy scouts compared to what Ashcroft and Porter Goss will do. And we are and will continue to do much more than just sabre rattling.

We had a media that made the effort to show McCarthy for what he was. Yeah, he did a lot of damage but he was stopped. Where is that media now? Bush and Ashcroft have essentially received a pass. Where are the Edward R. Murrows? No one in the media is asking hard questions about the Patriot Act.

No need to be insulting. I've read plenty of history. I don't remember anyone ever comparing Eisenhower to Hitler. If things really are better today in our government than they were in the 50s then I should be confident that we will come out of a second Bush term ok. I can't speak for you, but I don't believe that for a minute.

MzPip
:dem:

[seventhson]

41. Eisenhower let the fascists run the show: The Dulles Brothers

were head of the CIA and Secretary of State under Eisenhower and THEY had actually backed Hitler (in connivance with the Bushes) during WWII/

Eisenhower KNEW as he was departing how f*cked up things were and made his famous speech about the military industrial complex. HE was decent but he was put in place by fascists for fascists and things got MUCH worse because he was naive and a pawn of the extreme fascist right posing as Republicans.

He DID let THEM wreck the country on his watch.

[grasswire]

30. Art Sigelman...

..was on the floor for three days and said the only word that could sum up the Republican convention was "reptilian."

[liberalmuse]

5. Good!

I said the speech was like cyanide-laced cotton candy--all sugar, no substance and deadly if you buy it. If most of America believes it and ingests it, we're dead. Though it appeared to be a good, sincere speech on the surface, it was the exact opposite of what it appeared. I'm glad many people are saying, 'No thanks'.

[joefree1]

7. Or maybe they didn't exist in the first place

:wtf:

[ruggerson]

8. Both Time and Newsweek's Polls

were very flawed. Both overweighted Republican voters. Real Bush bounce, if he got one at all, was more in the range of +3%. As Kerry starts to fight back, race should pull even again within a week or two.

[vickie]

9. This is what I figured all along. Air America should have him on

to explain polling methodology. I think he is probably one of the better right wing polsters. He's been wrong before, but his methodology is pretty sound.

There is no way the electorate has returned to the * Dim Son this quickly.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

16. But the "almighty" Time and NewsweAk said that Emperor Bushrohito...

was in a "commanding lead" and he was unbeatable.

:crazy:

Kerry can win this thing!!!

:dem:

[GalleryGod]

17. Good Reporting on Your Part! Rassy is a GOOD Tracking Poll !!

I always fall back on them as my "WORST case scenario Poll" !

Of course, Wolfie,Tweety and the Whores will push the other BS Polls
:puke: :argh:

[DBoon]

18. hot air balloons

always sink fast

[girl gone mad]

33. Yes, and Bush..

Usually gets a spike in approval after his big speeches, but the spikes have faded with ever-increasing rapidity. That's why I don't understand the negativity around here.

[goclark]

38. Maybe it's not negativity

Maybe this election means so much to each one of us that the stress level causes different reactions.

Some just say,"It'll be fine. just relax!"

Others may say, "Oh my God! This sky can not fall, it will be the end for us, our children and our grandchildren. Where is the beautiful America that I once knew?

All of us are compassionate, accept for the visiting freepers.
We all have our eye on the prize - Kerry, Edwards 04.

[Robert Oak]

23. http://www.pollingreport.com/

http://www.pollingreport.com/

tracks a number of polls.

I noted that registered voters, bush is way away, likely voters
much more close.

[goclark]

24. Go back to the link and check each state.

[atre]

26. You know what bugs me most about those Time and Newsweek polls

Remember after the Democratic National Convention, all the newshounds told us not to trust any poll before the Monday after the Convention? Why don't the same talking heads say the same thing about these polls? Instead, this time we were innundated with polls the DAY AFTER the Convention - they were still cleaning up the floors of MSG - without a single hint that they might not be credible.

[BeatleBoot]

27. What is Charlie Cook Saying?

Anyone know?

[SKKY]

37. All this poll-watching is giving me an ulcer...

...I'm just going to ignore them until after the first debate. That's the poll we should all be looking forward to.

[doc03]

39. Check this link out on the same report about the polling numbers

of the 16 battleground states. Bush* leads Kerry 48% to 45% in 16 battleground states, this is meaningless. Hell he could have a lead in one large state such as Florida and still lose the other 15.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Battleground%20States.htm

[goforit]

40. The bounce is already fading????....This is the same as two days ago!