US military has intelligence breakthrough at Abu Ghraib prison

[Career Prole]

"BAGHDAD (AFP) - New interrogation techniques at the scandal-plagued Abu Ghraib prison are yielding three times as many intelligence tips as in January, when commanders allowed controversial methods that have been labeled as torture.

The new methods have increased "high value intelligence" reports from detainees from around 100 in January, when the Abu Ghraib scandal erupted, to 345 in August, the chief of detention operations in Iraq Major General Geoffrey Miller, told reporters Monday"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040906/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us_interrogation&cid=1514&ncid=1480

Gee...what do you know...

[gmoney]

1. Watch the Bushies take credit for it...

"we have fine tuned our methods to improve the value of intelligence... this has been our strategery all along"

[Career Prole]

7. Exactly. Another bold innovation from the "War Preznit"...

I can almost hear "Try A Little Tenderness" playing while he explains it.
:grr:

[donco6]

2. So if we'd been using these new techniques instead of

torture, we'd have had this intel months ago? How many deaths could we have avoided due to this incompetence?

[trumad]

4. You'd think with all that intelligence

they could have predicted 7 of our Marines dying today...

[Career Prole]

12. Suppose for a moment that the angry mob

who torched and dragged the four mercenaries in Fallujah were angry because Abu Ghraib wasn't being reported here even though it was common knowledge on the Iraq street (remember the timing?)
That resulted in the siege and the bombing of Fallujah which killed hundreds. Speculation, I know...but you're so right in wondering what might have been avoided by not torturing cab-drivers and petty criminals.

[wurzel]

3. We just had SEVEN soldiers killed. There is a credibility gap here!!

[Nordic]

16. Good point

How the hell do you spin THAT?

[wurzel]

21. The bastard probably doesn't even know it.

[Nordic]

23. ah yes "keep the bad news from King George"

wouldn't want his little tummy to get upset

[stepnw1f]

5. What Bullshit

And how many innocents have they fucked just to get this questionable crap? Well Bush, if you are going to take credit for this, then you have to take credit for all. All ir nothing.

[rocktivity]

6. TRANSLATION: The convention bounce is turned out to be a fraud

so it's time to offer up a new and improved Abu Ghraib.

:headbang:
rocknation

[0007]

17. Ah yes, I think a golf course is in order with a swinging club house.

Please pass the hookah or the hubble-bubble, narghile my head is ready to explode.

[Kenergy]

8. Yeah,

Like we can trust what Miller says.

[ranosgol]

9. What are they supposed to gleen from these people?

Where OSAMA is?

Where is Sadam?
Ok, I know they want to know about the uprisings but that has littel or nothign to do why we went there.

[daleo]

10. This is just Miller electioneering for Bush

The message is "we have seen the error of our ways and stopped sinning, so it is ok to vote for Bush with a clean conscience". More compassionate conservative nonsense that won't last past November.

[Rose Siding]

11. Why are they touting this as a change?:

snip>
The interrogation teams at Abu Ghraib are now stocked with reservists who work in civilian law enforcement back home. Training for the teams was supervised until last month by a 30-year-veteran of the Chicago police homicide division.
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Didn't Graner, Karpinski and one of the other charged torturers work in US prisons?

[Gman]

13. Innoculation campaign commercials

Its nothing but preemptive politics.

[BootinUp]

14. This is why you don't mix politics with intelligence.

dumbasses.

[BeFree]

15. High value intelligence

So, have they finally learned that they'd best get the hell out?

That is the only intelligent thing to do...

Bring our troops home, Now!

[slojim240]

18. Yeah, they are finding the mothers and children and torturing them

instead of the prisoners.

[johnfunk]

19. Lemme guess: They learned Saddam didn't have jack squat to do with 9/11!

Wow!

Intel breakthrough!

I mean... who knew?

[thebigidea]

20. Maybe the pictures served their allegedly initial purpose:

to frighten prisoners into talking. "Better tell us about your RPGs, or we'll sick some creep with a moustache on your rectal area."

More likely, they're just lying and attempting to distract from the coming Seymour Hersh onslaught.

[Lerkfish]

22. that has my vote...

they never do this sort of thing unless they're hoping to distract from SOME REALLY BAD PRESS™ coming down the pike, or having just come down the pike

[demoman123]

24. Back to the old rubber hose.

From the article: 'Procedures now are "similar to what you would see civilian law enforcement authorities use ..."'

[Renew Deal]

25. I guess we scared everyone shitless?

Maybe that was the point?