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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 01:57 PM
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Bush Launches Counterattack on Kerry Over Iraq
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6171363

"I think this country wants consistent, principled leadership," said Bush. "No matter how many times Sen. Kerry flip-flops we were right to make America safer by removing Saddam Hussein from power," he said.

Kerry attacked Bush's Iraq policy on Monday, when he called the invasion "the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time," and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in a first White House term.

He also issued a statement calling Iraq a "quagmire" created by Bush's "wrongheaded, go-it-alone" policy.

In his response on Tuesday, the president made no mention of recent attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq that have raised the American death toll close to 1,000.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:00 PM
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1. translation = bush has nothing to run on ...the "flip flop" is going to
boomerrang on shrubya.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:01 PM
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2. This Guy Lies Us Into A War
yet he has the audacity to nit pick Kerry's stance on Iraq? What a f*kin asshole!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:06 PM
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6. Fuck bush and his psycho babble...
he's spurting out words that the rovarianmeister tells him to. Thinking this will muddy up the waters and the voters won't know what to believe, so they'll vote for you cause you're already squatting here.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 06:41 PM
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29. I Hear Ya zidzi
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:01 PM
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3. Bush'sBig Whopper War....
bush's war...bush's war...the big Whopper.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:15 PM
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14. I like that - G. "Whopper" Bush ! -eom
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:01 PM
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4. Nice having HIM on the defensive, isn't it?
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 02:32 PM by rocknation
All Kerry should do is give examples of how Bush is not a stranger to flip-flopping and "blocking."

:headbang:
rocknation
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:26 PM
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19. I was just about to say that
Kerry was the one launching the counterattacks all through August. Now the shoe's on the other foot.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:05 PM
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5. Kerry has been totally consistent.
He voted to give the "President" authority to pursue a war as a last resort. He has said he would do the same again today. (For which he was criticized by some in his own party). Kerry has from the beginning criticized Bush's conduct of the war. He is doing so today. Kerry has been entirely consistent. The flip-flop" charge makes no sense.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:08 PM
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11. I wish Kerry would use a simple analogy
Something like:

"Americans I gave President Bush the apporval to load the weapon, the decision on if, when, and how to fire it was George Bush's call as Commander in Chief"

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:20 PM
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17. That is an excellent analogy RobertSeattle!
He should use it. You should send it to them! :)
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:36 PM
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22. I like it too.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:06 PM
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7. This coming from "We can't win - we can win terrorism" Bush
Amazing.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:07 PM
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8. Good! We need Bush on the DEFENSIVE
He needs to be on the ropes, and he needs to stay there.

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:14 PM
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13. Right
Bush went up in the polls because people thought Kerry couldn't defend himself against Bush. Kerry needs to keep hammering his simple message. Bush is Wrong!

I read that Rove has succeeded in changing the dynamics from a referendum on Bush to a referendum on Kerry. (That's what the Swift Boats campaign was all about.)

Luckily that smear came a bit too early in my opinion. Now Kerry can fight back with a clean conscience.

It doesn't hurt that Kitty Kelly's book will focus on Bush's youth, and Bush's youth makes for much better negative gossip than Kerry's.

You are right: We need to keep the focus on Bush and keep him playing defense. CNN and ABC and NBC as well as Fox are biased in favor of Bush, but we need to keep hammering away so that some of the truth comes through.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:18 PM
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25. Bush needs to keep repeating his lies for the war
because people will realize "wait a minute, that's not true"

the more we make him defend the "war", the more his lies will be obvious to people
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:28 PM
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27. Bush's "youth" should be in the Guiness
Book as the longest on record. He's never accepted responsibility for any of his actions as an adult.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:07 PM
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9. But I heard the rationale for the invasion
Was those weapons of mass destruction! Has Bush flip-flopped on why he sent our troops in? Doesn't he owe them the truth about their mission (at least)? Is he comfortable sending a thousand men and women to die for his flip-flop? Why or why not?
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:07 PM
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10. Right
uh huh--removing Saddam, who had no weapons, no army, no air force and no navy and no terrorists he was harboring or involved with, made us safer and the stupid Americans will believe he was a threat. We bombed his no fly zone for ten years and UN stringent and barbaric sanctions caused 500,000 children to die. Sure--he was a real big threat to the gigantic US of A.

this prick is a delusional ignorant coward of a selected president.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:12 PM
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12. That was a rather amateurish remark by Bush ??
He let Kerry put him on the defensive....Must have hit a sore spot talking about "his" war?? Kerry should hit him again - call him a flip-flopper...:)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:18 PM
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15. "I think this country wants consistent, principled leadership," said Bush.
I don't know what it says about me, but when I saw that I had to laugh. Isn't that terrible? But it was such an outrageous lie that I just caught myself giggling.

Yeah, we do want consistent, principaled leadership pResident Douchebag,that's why we're gonna send you to the unemployment line where you've sent so many others.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:20 PM
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26. yeah, let's hear those "consistent" reasons for the invasion
they change every week.

Last week it was "our boys died so Iraqis could have Internet cafes".

Gre---e-e-e-e-a-a-a-a-a-tttt.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:20 PM
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16. Bush's position requires ignoring the dead
but that seems to be the case with everything he does. whether it's his tax policies, health care, environment etc.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 04:10 PM
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28. all Republicans believe that deceit is the only constant
first they claim Kerry is classic lifelong, big-spending lefty, then they say everything he does is only another flip-flop. They say Kerry is nothing but anti-marriage and pro-terrorist, then they say he really isn't. They claim Kerry sold out his fellow servicemen by opposing the war in Vietnam, then they say bravery and military service has nothing to do with patriotism. They claim everyone worried by the recession is an "economic girlie man", then they say this recession started under Clinton not Bush. They claim liberals only weaken our country when in power, then they say that 9/11 wasn't really the President's fault. They say Democrats are consistent supporters of more government bureaucracy, then they say Democrats are flip-floppers when opposing even more bureaucracy for the homeland.

Trying to reason with the clinically insane will only drive us psycho..one way Bush could win votes. :crazy:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:21 PM
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18. Kerry May Be Waiting for The Debates To Say the Following:
I was mislead into this war just like all of YOU were misled into this war. We were told there were nukes, we were told there were WMD's, were told Iraq was an imminent threat. None of that was true and the one responsible for misleading me and ALL OF YOU is Bush.

I would like to think I could trust my president to be honest w/ me when he askes for my support for something as serious as war. I trusted him and I gave him that support and so did most of you. Bush has shown he can't be trusted with that solemn responsibility. I was wrong for trusting him and so were you.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:29 PM
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21. And more than that . . .
The men and women who make up our military were misled. Whether you're the meekest hawk or the fiercest dove, it's pretty much agreed that if the United States is to commit its military force anywhere in the world, the troops deserve to know the truth about their mission.

George W. Bush lied to the troops, and now thousands of them are dead or maimed for life. What can you do, Mr. Bush, to atone for that?
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:28 PM
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20. Ask the question, "How many soldiers are dead today? How many
funerals have you bothered to attend, but you sure have time to sit with your speech writers thinking up clever slogans and lies. This country does want a leader, not someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. Mission IS NOT Accomplished Mr. Bush, stop your bickering and talk to America on how you're going to END this mess!"
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:41 PM
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23. Actually, he's right.
This country DOES want consistent, principled leadership--and that's exactly why Kerry is the best choice!

;)
rocknation
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 03:08 PM
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24. They drew him out again.
Very nice. They are going to let him become the ugly bastard he is.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:01 PM
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30. kick!
:kick:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:02 PM
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31. I agree with chimpy
"I think this country wants consistent, principled leadership," said Bush.

HELL YEAH some of that would be damn nice! And as soon as we get rid of you and your evil little Cartel, we'll get some.
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