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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:49 PM
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Sharon Bush Denies Being Kelley Source (WP)


President Bush's former sister-in-law denied yesterday that she had given author Kitty Kelley any information about allegations of past drug use by Bush.

Sharon Bush is quoted in Kelley's forthcoming book about the Bush family as making one of the allegations, and Kelley's editor said in an interview Tuesday that she had provided "confirmation" for the information.

But Sharon Bush, who is divorced from the president's brother Neil, said in a statement: "I categorically deny that I ever told Kitty Kelley that George W. Bush used cocaine at Camp David or that I ever saw him use cocaine at Camp David. When Kitty Kelley raised drug use at Camp David, I responded by saying something along the lines of, 'Who would say such a thing?' ..

Kelley "has notes to corroborate both these conversations," Herz said, and Bush "understood that anything she said could be used for publication." ..

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:50 PM
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1. Sharon was featured in an article about Neil Bush in Vanity Fair
and she had plenty to say - none of it positive - about chimpy's family.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:15 PM
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18. That was an excellent article
i love Vanity Fair, thats my one luxary purchase. The articles are so well written and not skimpy. Sharon is the source but she's trying to back peddle now and if i were her i'd probably do the same. Hope she doesnt fly on small airplanes.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:58 PM
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38. yeah, I HAVE to buy Vanity Fair. They're not on the web -damn them.
GMTA! Graydon Carter has been vocal as of late with his extreme distaste of all things Bush.

So much of what they publish would be right at home here on DU if they put their content online!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:27 PM
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43. The subscription is worth it
Only $15.00 a year.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:58 AM
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70. But seems unimpeachable 3rd source says Sharon lies, Kitty truth teller
Kitty: More support for Bush coke use

Sharon Bush tried to back away yesterday from quotes Kitty Kelley attributes to her in her new slice-and-dice book on the Bush family - but she may have backed into a smoking gun.

..."I categorically deny that I ever told Kitty Kelley that George W. Bush used cocaine at Camp David - or that I ever saw him use cocaine at Camp David. The one time I met in person with Kitty Kelley, she mentioned drug use at Camp David. I responded by saying something along the lines of, 'Who would say such a thing?'"

...But Sharon has one small problem: There was a third party at the lunch, an unimpeachable source who agreed to speak with us on condition of anonymity, who says Kelley's quotes are accurate.

"We met at the Chelsea Bistro on April 1, 2003," says our insider. "It was a very long lunch. Sharon was talking about affairs in the Bush family ... very dysfunctional. She said they talk about family values, but they don't practice what they preach.

"Then Kitty raised the drug issue," our source continues. "Kitty, who can make a rock talk, said: 'I know about the drugs. I know that W did drugs at Camp David during his father's presidency.'

"Sharon agreed. She said, 'Absolutely. That's all true.'"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/230275p-19...
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:29 PM
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80. Two Minny Martoonies?
Interesting. SHe says she did not say she saw it or that he did it but she does not deny that she CONFIRMED it in the way stated.

Maybe she didn't exactly remember saying "Absolutely!" or that it was an affirmation of the story.

But I would bet she has money in an offshore bank by now to keep her jumping through hoops to protect the BFEE.

No KNOWN settlement. But a GREAT Rovian setup (and inoculation) if she confirmed the story and now says NOT.


I suspect she is being WELL taken care of.
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:46 PM
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81. I especially loved
that article earlier in the year: "Is Bush Too Sober to Govern?" (or something like that)
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:44 PM
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30. And anyone who read that article
could not walk away without considering that Sharon Bush was a classic case of a jilted wife eager to do anything to exact revenge.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 PM
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2. One wonders what kind of threats
Bush and his minions are hurling at Sharon.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:45 PM
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76. Same as I thought...n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:47 PM
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77. Remember, Neil told her to shut up or she'd "end up in an alley."
Excerpt...

Bush divorce: splitting in the spotlight Sharon Bush wonders why Neil Bush used e-mail to tell her he was leaving and why he told her by phone months later, "You better move on with your life or you'll find yourself in a back alley."

Source:

http://www.legitgov.org/shortnews_0703_page_two.html

Sorry the original source "Houston Chronicle" no longer has the story online. The above has it referenced, which matches my memory.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:51 PM
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3. and so it begins.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:57 PM
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9. Feh!
I've been saying this .... don't pin any hopes on Kitty Litter's book. The woman is trash. I don't care who it is she writes about. Kitty Kelley is scum. Period.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:31 PM
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25. But the target audience is ...
I don't care what she wrote, I haven't read any of her works yet. But there are lots of women-for-Bush that WILL read her book and that book, rather than a more substative one, may make a major impact on these women and consequently the election.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:45 PM
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75. Doesn't matter. If it hurts bush, then so be it.
And more power to it! We have to fight with every weapon we can get. This is a gift horse. I'm not gonna look it in the mouth.

Also: I think the way to play it is this:

If it comes up, or you bring it up, with a fundie/freeper/limbot type, a good reaction might be a tsk-tsk type, where you appear to be one of those undecideds who is just REALLY concerned about what kind of character this shows in our leader. He may be a nice guy, but I SURE don't like this! And, doggone it, she digs up stuff that stands the test... AND you can throw in "apparently, there was a third person at Kitty Kelley's lunch with Sharon Bush, and that person vouches for everything that was said."

If it comes up, or you bring it up, with a fellow Good Guy, then just have at it!

All this is, frankly, is just dessert. To be eaten with a very large spoon, and then lick the plate.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:52 PM
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4. could be Rove redux - cooperate, plant a story ala Hatfield...
... then deny the whole thing and so forth.

Or she just took a handout to say that, as what else would a post-Bush Sharon do?

Go on the lecture circuit? "How to Cope with a Wormy Husband with Mysterious Uncalled but Certainly Not Unenjoyed Prostitute Problems"?
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:59 PM
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12. I immediately thought the same thing
Shades of Fortunate Son and a Rove's redux.

I hope Sharon got screwed on her alimony deal.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:53 PM
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5. They got to her.
What did they have on her? Or did they just threaten to make her disappear?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:58 PM
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10. Probably a pay off of some sort for her to talk to Kelley then deny it all
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 09:59 PM by havocmom
That way there will be questions about everything in the book. A set up to discredit Kelley is my bet. They know they can't defend themselves honestly just like Dimson cannot run on his record. All they have is to cast aspersions on their challengers. It is their M.O. and it is wearing a little thin.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:00 PM
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39. They'll Princess Di-her. She should stay out of black limos and
small planes. She is SO disposable now.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:54 PM
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6. Kitty KELLEY Doesn't Need Sharon-Neil-Shrub
Kitty KELLEY is a self-actualizing human, not a parasite LIKE SHARON.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:58 PM
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11. Oh please
Look up parasite, you'll see a picture of Kitty Kelly. Scum with a capital "S".
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:11 PM
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14. Really? Why Do You Think So? n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:14 PM
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17. Ms KELLEY Has Made Her Own Way in Life
While Sharon-Neilius-Shrub has married-and-blackmailed. You do the choosing.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:15 PM
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19. Jessis H. Christo
Read some of her books. There are pure trash and Miss Thang walks a fine line to avoid legal threats.

How many of you gave a flying rats ass about this scum before she wrote this book about the Bushes?

Gimme a fucking break.

Trash is trash.

It stinks regardless who's it is.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:21 PM
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24. I Have Read 1 of her Books, the Nancy One
I Didn't read the other ones because I didn't want to be hurt over Jackie, and because I don't care about SINATRA, and don't care about the Royals.

Now, as I have posted over and over here, KELLEY ain't "trash"---she writes the trash that her subjects DO. She "walks a line"?----uh, SO that her stuff is TRUE???

I LOVED the book about Nancy, which is BEFORE now, no?

I really don't understand you, I've had friendly feelings towards you before this. Oh, well.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:38 PM
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27. Sorry you're letting Kitty Kelly cloud your view of me.
I read the Nancy book too and I thought is was crap. Not that I'm a Reagan supporter. Kitty Kelly books come across as written by a bitter, money hungry whore. Her book on Liz Taylor was shit.

I read an interview with her and her vile "I'll get you" attitude was repulsive.

Sorry. I am liberal democrat and if my views on Kitty Kelly make you second guess me, I will not apologize for it.

Gossip and trash are just that. I don't care if it's about a Republican or a Democrat.

Trash stinks, period.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:48 PM
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32. So Mr Morality. If what she says is truth, it still doesn't matter?
Does human behavior behind closed doors make you QUEASY? It's about knocking down false images, which we could use a bit more of here in the flag-waving US of A. If Bush is royally scamming us, we have a right to know. He is an employee of ours and he has apparently lied to us.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:55 PM
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35. Thank You , Dear One n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:49 AM
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50. I have read them all

They are not mean spirited , they show the human side of celebrities.
She tells the good,the bad and the ugly.

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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:36 AM
Response to Reply #50
58. Right!
Even if she has to make the whole thing up!
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peach720 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:17 AM
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60. I have read some of her books.
I read the Nancy Reagan one, which was fascinating. I have also have read The Royals, which still has not been published in the UK. My copy is an imported copy found in a charity bookshop!!!!
Her subjects are very carefully researched, she is not Ann Coulter, who just writes spitful, delibrate lies.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:15 PM
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20. Geez - Just because she attacks Bush you call her scum???
How about reviewing the facts and statements she makes first for accuracy?

MAYBE she is telling the truth.

I tend to agree that this may be the Rove "Hatfield Model" - but let's vet the facts and NOT fall for the "she's not credible" meme before hand.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:40 PM
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28. BULL SHIT!
I base that on some the crap she has written in the past.

Yeah, I'm freeper now because I think Kelly is a pile a crap.

Report me, ok?
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:24 PM
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42. what crap? please be precise n/t
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:14 PM
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72. Bullshit to wait for the story to say its false?
Maybe she is planted by Rove. Maybe she actually WILL expose truths the Bushes don't want known.

Maybe she is to innoculate the voters on the Bush-Nazi story.

But to dismiss her now before we even know what she has written (and hence dismiss what may be important facts for public info) may help Bush/


Let's not dismiss her words before we know what they are.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:52 PM
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78. Your May Not Be A Freeper
But your name calling is personal, if you don't agree with what she has written in the past then attack her credibility. The terms scum and whore are personal attacks, as is referring to her as a pile of crap.

As I said attack her credibility, but do it with examples, not with generalizations or name calling. It weakens your argument.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:02 PM
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79. NO NO NO NO, Ronny - you are NOT a freeper, by ANY stretch of
the imagination. And just because I happen to disagree, somewhat, with you here, I'm certainly not going to slam you.

You have great difficulty with the Kitty Kelley stuff. So be it. I'm sure lots of other people do, too, and not just bush-lovers.

I've read the Sinatra book and the Nancy book. Enjoyed both. I like to wallow in the dirt, too, every so often. Didn't change my opinions about either of those two subjects. I have a prurient side.

Besides, if this is one way to get stuff that may very well be true into the collective consciousness about bush, then I say YAY!!! I say it may very well be true because Kitty Kelley's been around long enough to face utterly devastating, scorched-earth lawsuits, if there were any, for what she's written in the past. I don't remember seeing anything about her ever being sued for libel or slander. This doesn't mean I'm correct - my memory isn't perfect. But, if there were horrendous falsehoods in her stuff, she AND HER PUBLISHERS would be taken to the cleaners. The "National Enquirer" HAS INDEED been sued successfully and had to settle as I recall (thinking the Carol Burnett case). I don't remember Kitty Kelley facing that. Believe me, in this litigious time/society in which we live, she'd be facing mountains of ruinous lawsuits if she wrote anything that couldn't stand the test.

And just for your information...

When I worked at the AP here in L.A., the news desk got a comp copy of the "National Enquirer" every week. It was ALWAYS snatched up straight away by the chief news editor, and the assignment desk guys, AND the folks who usually got the "people-in-the-news" type stories to chase down. During the first Michael Jackson molestation scandal, the "Enquirer" was checked religiously. We had to stay on top of it, and follow up on stuff to see if we could enlarge on some of the stories or come up with our own fresh angles, so we OFTEN took an "Enquirer" story as a point of departure. More often than not their scoops turned out to be correct. And more than a few of the paparazzi types would phone the desk all the time with tips and tidbits and hints - about where they were going or what they were being assigned to, or where they were on their way to. Sometimes they did stuff for the AP, also. Tabloid stuff was often what we had to work with, AND what we had to crank out. I had an editor on the broadcast end who was VERY much like that, and wanted all the stuff on our broadcast wire that you'd either read in the "Enquirer" or hear Howard Stern or some "morning zoo" radio show in the morning. It had to stand up, factually, and/or have proper attribution. But it was still THE most wanted stuff of all.

I suspect Kitty Kelley's stuff is true because she faces lawsuits every time she farts, for heaven's sakes.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:34 PM
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26. Funny, Looked Up "Parasite" and Got Only Pics of Shrub
But here's Kitty:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:57 PM
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7. It's Noelle. She did it for a six pack. (I'm gonna get flak for this one)
Actually, I like Noelle but a zinger is a zinger on late night DU.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:21 PM
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23. NOT a sixpack
an eight ball
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:57 PM
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8. I would bet Sharon told someone and they told Kitty Kelley...
and that person has sworn that Sharon told her. Kelley makes damn sure she has her legal i's dotted and t's crossed.
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Lourde_Green Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:01 PM
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13. And so it begins. . .
The Reps are masters of intimidation and witness destruction. And they keep bringing up the Swift Vets. . .everyone knows they're lying.

*The King is Dead- Long livethe king*
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:12 PM
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15. Kelley's got witnesses
"Doubleday stands fully behind the accuracy of Ms. Kelley's reporting and believes that everything she attributes to Sharon Bush in her book is an accurate account of their discussions," said Associate Publisher Suzanne Herz. "Ms. Kelley met with Sharon Bush over the course of a four-hour lunch on April 1, 2003, at the Chelsea Bistro in Manhattan."

The next day, Herz said, Kelley had a 90-minute phone conversation with Bush in the presence of Peter Gethers, her Doubleday editor. Gethers confirmed the accuracy of the statement yesterday.

Kelley "has notes to corroborate both these conversations," Herz said, and Bush "understood that anything she said could be used for publication."

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:17 PM
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21. I'll bet Kelley has tapes of Bush
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 10:19 PM by buycitgo
I read that vanity fair piece, and she's seiously crazy, unreliable, completely untrustworth trash, if one cares to toss that word around

the vanity fair piece is quite the entertaining read....NOTHING good to be found about any of those mentioned, from poppy to Bar, to the hangers-on....especially Neil and Sharon....really disgusting couple

no WAY Kelley would take her word if it was not on tape

why? BECAUSE of what's happening now

Sinatra SUED her beforehand to keep the book from being published

that book had a section in which she said Sinatra had a COP MURDERED in Nevada?

did you know that?

he didn't sue her over that

and there are LOTS of instances of famous people winning libel suits in the US

if she accused Sinatra of murder, and he couldn't sue her on that, what do you think she has in the way of incontrovertible evidence?

say what you will about her, but she has backing for what she writes.
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A_Possum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:46 PM
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31. The publisher
also knows full well what they are getting into. Notice that her editor and the publisher stands behind her.

They are not fools at Doubleday. They've been through this before.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. you think Doubleday isn't PRAYING for maximum
outrage from the Bush camp?

my guess is they'll try to ignore it as much as possible, put MAXIMUM pressure on the media handmaidens to ignore it like they did Larry Flynt's book.

the TexVets for truth may take some pressure off the media from the respect, as they're putting a LOT on now to keep that one out of the public consciousness

I hope they shoot their wad on that one, and the media will get more freedom to go with the nasty book

it has more potential to reach a wider range of loathing than the much narrower AWOL/flight physical story

much trashier stuff in the book, including the AWOL story

can't WAIT
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:52 PM
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44. That is why I read the Sinatra book.
I read that he tried to sue her to keep it from being published.

I had never read any of her books, and did not really care about her stuff that much. But I hated the idea that Sinatra thought he had the right to censor her book.

I figured if any of it was untrue, he could always sue her later. He didn't. Isn't that interesting?

I ordered the Kelley book and Graham's book together from Amazon, and got a discount for buying both.

Keep in mind that some CBS affiliates did not show 60 Minutes tonight. Keep in mind that some members of the media who usually pay attention to Kitty Kelley are now doing their best to ignore this new book. They certainly did not ignore the swift boat trash, even though they knew it was lies!

Let's listen to the thunderous silence on the Kelley book. And let's call them on their hypocrisy as it sells and sells and sells.

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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:45 AM
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63. Unfortunately she does not say she has tapes.
And the only thing she has to back this up is an anonymous witness.

I am absolutely amazed that she didn't tape her interviews. I would think that is required these days.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:39 PM
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74. There's also this from today's New York Daily News...
snips:

But Sharon has one small problem: There was a third party at the lunch, an unimpeachable source who agreed to speak with us on condition of anonymity, who says Kelley's quotes are accurate.
"We met at the Chelsea Bistro on April 1, 2003," says our insider. "It was a very long lunch. Sharon was talking about affairs in the Bush family ... very dysfunctional. She said they talk about family values, but they don't practice what they preach.
"Then Kitty raised the drug issue," our source continues. "Kitty, who can make a rock talk, said: 'I know about the drugs. I know that W did drugs at Camp David during his father's presidency.'
"Sharon agreed. She said, 'Absolutely. That's all true.'"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/230275p-197775c.html

Apparently Kitty Kelley knew she had to have ALL her ducks in a row. She wasn't born yesterday.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:13 PM
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16. So Why Isn't She Suing?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:18 PM
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22. she has tapes......HAS to.....see post 21 above
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:44 PM
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29. Big mistake Sharon. You can't chicken out now, it's already out there
and fully vetted.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:52 PM
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33. sounds like the House of Bush is putting pressure on Sharon...
... wonder if she found a horse's head in her bed this morning
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:05 PM
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40. LOL my thoughts too ...
Does she have any kids that they could have threatened ?
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:07 PM
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41. Exactly what I thought.
She'll deny ever saying it now and they'll succeed in getting it cut from the book or having the publisher put the book on ice until after the election.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:10 AM
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65. Didn't they refuse to give her a settlement?
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 10:10 AM by goclark

I would be mad as hell if I married one of their trash sons and got nothing out of it! All the money that they have stolen!

Sharon knows that they will try to kill her for this, she might as well spill all the beans and make a million herself.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:54 PM
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34. she married the wrong Bush and is now broke
perfect for us to get soem real dirt.

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:58 PM
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37. zackly....did you read the Vanity Fair article?
what a loathsome set of characters

straight out of Thackeray, but MUCH lower class
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:19 AM
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45. Now Kitty is no good? Some of you are truly amazing.
This is not Kelly's first trip to the rodeo. We now have some here giving her grief over what?

Sorry, but I will take our defeat of the Magical monkey king and his troupe with Kitty Kelly's help over the wax on-wax off, zen of moment, be true to your inner victim we are "better" than that approach.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:38 AM
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46. Kelley is all right. I remember reading that she and Sharon had lunches
together during the time she was hardballing the divorce process. Nothing like talking to Kelley to get a better settlement. What else
is Sharon going to say? Kelley is fine.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:39 AM
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47. Kitty Kelley is a nasty, unreliable liar.
W(rong) snorted cocaine while he was supposed to be serving in the National Guard? It's an outrageous accusation, and it deserves a full, public investigation to clear his name. Nothing less will do, damnit. This cannot stand!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:42 AM
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49. (snerk) I absolutely agree!
Let's put these heinous accusations to rest forever. In court. Under oath.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 10:45 AM
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85. It's the only way....It must be done...We must be fair...
Every dog has his day

...

etc...etc...etc....
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:30 AM
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56. Wondrous image! You've captured the Bush supporter perfectly! n/t
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 12:43 AM
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48. I would do the same. I don't want to die. Bush Crime Family.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:51 AM
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51. Sharon doesn't want to have an untimely "heart attack".
Or "plane crash". I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that they got to her.

Around the time of her divorce, she was making all kinds of noise about writing a tell-all book about the family, but then suddenly changed her mind.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 01:51 AM
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52. Sharon's statement has Rove's fingerprints
all over it. I'm reminded of the scene in Godfather II when Frank Pantangelli is all set to publically testify against the Corleones before a Senate committee when into the hearing room comes his long lost brother, accompanied by Michael Corleone. Within seconds he's denying every allegation he was set to make.

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:00 AM
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53. She better lie...cause they will kill her ass!
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:05 AM
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54. HERE'S SOME GOOD INSIDE DOPE ON KITTY KELLEY'S BOOK AND MORE!!!!!!!!!!
Kitty Kelley’s “The Family”– The Inside Scoop, Part I

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x774741

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Beltway and Texas Republicans
Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc.
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"Insider’s News”, Vol 1 - Kerry-Edwards Campaign Doing Well
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x748458
“Insider’s News” Vol 1.1 - Great Anti-Bush Sites
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x756409

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:53 AM
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67. One of your "inside scoops" said
that matt lauer was going to interview Kitty Kelly..wonder if he'll be as hostile as with Michael Moore?

Or even if matt will do it after the WH called GE?
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:16 AM
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55. Calm down everybody
Whether you agree with the book or you don't the only thing that matters here, in my opinion, is that it has nothing to do with the Kerry campaign.
We can just sit back and relax and watch the repugs waste time having to defend themselves. They will surely start in on John Edwards soon so save your energy for that.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:49 AM
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57. hahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAA. i love it.
i can't stand it. hahahahahahaha. the entire attack machine will have to be retooled. rove is going to need to work 72 hour days. hahahahhahahahahaha. 7 weeks. and there are so many other books coming.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:55 AM
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59. Kelley has a 3rd party witness who was at the lunch with Sharon
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/230350p-197775c.html

"...But Sharon has one small problem: There was a third party at the lunch, an unimpeachable source who agreed to speak with us on condition of anonymity, who says Kelley's quotes are accurate.

"We met at the Chelsea Bistro on April 1, 2003," says our insider. "It was a very long lunch. Sharon was talking about affairs in the Bush family ... very dysfunctional. She said they talk about family values, but they don't practice what they preach. "Then Kitty raised the drug issue," our source continues. "Kitty, who can make a rock talk, said: 'I know about the drugs. I know that W did drugs at Camp David during his father's presidency.'

"Sharon agreed. She said, 'Absolutely. That's all true.'"

Meanwhile, Kelley's associate publisher Suzanne Herz said: "Doubleday stands fully behind the accuracy of Ms. Kelley's reporting, and believes that everything she attributes to Sharon Bush in her book is an accurate account of their discussions." "The day following this lunch, in the presence of her editor, Peter Gethers, Ms. Kelley had a subsequent telephone conversation with Sharon Bush which lasted approximately 1-1/2 hours. Ms. Kelley has notes to corroborate both of these conversations..."

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 06:23 AM
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61. first they deny...then they spin. It's up to us to decide = he's guilty !
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:56 AM
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62. Sorry, but notes don't mean crap in a "she said/I said situation"
The only way to refute the "do not/did so" is to have the conversation or event on tape (either audio or video).

Given Kelly's penchant for non-quoted sources why should I believe her over Sharon Bush?
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 08:56 AM
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64. Isn't Howard Kurtz wife a Republican lobbyist?
He always seems to be the chosen clean-up guy, given a pan and a broom, and told to sweep up after the elephants parade down the street.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:59 AM
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71. Kurtz's wife is a GOP public relations strategist
Answering my own question, I found this:

“It’s ironic that Kurtz would suggest a conflict of interest between a couple. Kurtz is married to Sheri Annis, who is a GOP public relations strategist supporting the re-election of George W. Bush. Annis also was part of Arnold Schwartzneggar’s brain trust in his recall election. She also worked on a California voter proposition that would force immigrant children to speak English in school. She appears regularly on Chris Matthews’s “Hardball” program as a conservative pundit and writes for the National Review. She also worked on a campaign to stop “living wage” laws. She even calls her company Fourth Estate Strategies.

http://commonwealthcommonsense.typepad.com/commonwealthcommonsense/2004/06/howard_kurtz_ba.html
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jsheriff Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:48 AM
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66. A Classic Non-Denial Denial
I'm surprised that no one has pointed out that Sharon Bush never denies that the incident occurred. She only denies having told Kitty Kelley about it.

Personally, I can't say that I put much trust in anything that Kitty Kelley writes, but it's all entertaining just the same.


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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:55 AM
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68. Just another Bush denying the truth! n/t
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:56 AM
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69. Saw presidental historian Doris Kerns Goodwin on TV this a.m.
talking about the KK book. She said Kelley writes in a scandalous manner but what she says in her books usually turns out to be true.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 02:34 PM
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73. We already know that most of Kitty Kelley's allegations are true!
George W. Bush used cocaine after his 40th birthday? He's never denied that he used coke before he turned 40. With all the lies that he's told lately, why stop now?

George W. Bush didn't get clean and sober after his 40th birthday? No surprise to me!

George W. Bush lied about how much the Medicare bill would cost? Yep.

George W. Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Yep.

George W. Bush lied about what he knew prior to 9/11? Yep.

George W. Bush sent somebody to take down Joe Wilson by outing his wife, an undercover CIA agent? Yep.

George W. Bush is an arrogant lazy petulant sneak who lies? Duh!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:51 PM
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82. oops
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 10:13 PM by party_line
erroneous info
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:06 PM
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83. The 3rd Party Who Overhead Sharon Bush Is Her Ex Publicist
According to this story in the International Herald Tribune, Lou Colasuonno, who is the ex publicist for Sharon Bush, was the other person present at the 4-hour lunch when Sharon told her story to Kitty Kelley. He says that all of that which has been reported about the book is true.

http://www.iht.com/articles/538141.html

"......Lou Colasuonno, a former publicist for Sharon Bush, confirmed that he was the third party present at the lunch and contradicted Sharon Bush's denial. "I have not seen the book; I have only seen news reports," he said. "According to what I have seen, what has been reported, I would not dispute that." ....."
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:20 PM
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84. Number 3 with a bullet at Amazon. I read that the WH is trying to
strong arm the Today Show into canceling her appearance.
Newsweek has reneged on the deal they had with her, she turned down Time in favor of Newsweek. Hell I ordered the book. I can't wait to see what she wrote about this big ole band of grifters. Should be a good beach read, if I were going to the beach. Maybe I'll float in steel cow waterer on a air mattress.
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