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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:45 PM
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Extinction May Have Trickle-Down Effect
Edited on Thu Sep-09-04 03:46 PM by villager
although this falls in the "no shit" category, it's good to get this in the news so that homo sapiens will realize that they themselves live on an interconnected planet. And no, the Rapture may not come in time to save their asses...


Extinction May Have Trickle-Down Effect

WASHINGTON - Conservationists concerned about the extinction of plants and animals may be overlooking the danger to thousands of other species that depend on the threatened ones.

A team of researchers led by Lian Pin Koh of the National University of Singapore studied some 12,200 plants and animals considered threatened or endangered, and calculated that an additional 6,300 dependent insects, mites, fungi and other species could be considered endangered.

"What we found is that with the extinction of a bird, or a mammal or a plant, you aren't just necessarily wiping out just one, single species. We're also allowing all these unsung dependent species to be wiped out as well," one member of the team, Heather Proctor of Canada's University of Alberta, said in a statement.


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In many cases, species facing coextinction tend to be things like mites and lice. But some others are more likely to be missed by humans, such as a type of butterfly from Singapore that disappeared after the vines that had provided food for its larvae became extinct.


Overall, the researchers said, the loss of one species when a different one becomes extinct shows how interconnected the world is.
"What we wanted to learn was, if the host goes extinct, how many other species will go with it," Proctor said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=624&ncid=624&e=1&u=/ap/20040909/ap_on_sc/extinction_warning

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:47 PM
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1. Welcome to the Food Chain
I honestly hope this wasn't news to anybody.

I suppose that considering how stupid we've become in this country, it was wise to make sure everyone had a chance for a refresher.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:49 PM
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2. LOL! This used to be grade-school biology.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 03:56 PM
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3. Superstition is playing a role
in wiping out millions of bats in Mexico. Caves are piled up with old tires which are then set on fire, wiping out bat colonies because the bat is considered to be bad ju ju. Thing is, the Mexican Free Tail bat is responsible for eliminating a certain moth which feeds on crop lands. Less bats, less crop production.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:03 PM
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4. Yes, let's hear it for those oh-so Bronze Age traditions & customs
Just like snake hunters in SE Asia. Much of the region is rapidly being denuded of snakes so that the snakes' blood can be sold as an aphrodisiac. You see, snakes are muscular and long and huhhuhhuhhuhhuh . . .

Result - a plague of rats and other rodents in agricultural areas because the snakes aren't there any more as a natural check. Duh.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:46 PM
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13. Or "rattlesnake round-ups" held in some

places in the U.S. and usually sponsored by the Jaycees for what they see as civic reasons. Those reasons are protecting people from terraist snakes and amusing the public with a community event/ sideshow featuring events like demonstrations of "milking" rattlesnakes' venom, concession stands selling rattler meat prepared by different methods, etc. To start with, screwing around with the natural size of the rattlesnake population has long-term ecological consequences.

Additionally, their preferred method for trapping the snakes they will exhibit and kill is pumping gasoline into "snake holes." Of course this doesn't smoke out (or kill) only the evildoers (rattlers) but impacts poplations of other wildlife like nonpoisonous snakes, tortoises and gophers that happen to be living in "snake holes," much as Saddam was living in a "spider hole." (Fuzzy use of language is another pet peeve of mine. What makes a large cement-lined underground bunker occupied by an Iraqi dictator a "spider hole"?)

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:48 PM
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14. Yes, but they can wear big boots, fearlessly handle deadly terror snakes
And after all, since it's charitable, it's for the CHILDREN . . .

Redneck moronathons.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:26 PM
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18. Insane! I have a big bat cave in an outcropping 100 meters behind my house
The wonderful bats buzz me in the evening as I cook out on my Texas rig. They eat the mosquitoes and no-see-ums. I know that they may be rabies carriers, but they were here first. And they will still be here when we are all dust in the wind.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:07 AM
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20. kick
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:37 PM
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6. now, in Bush's America...
...it's "news."
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:48 PM
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7. "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
--George Orwell

My God, he prophesied 21st Century Amerika generally, if not specifically.

Though by 2050, the specifics may be in place.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:51 PM
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9. pretty specifically, I should think...
The weather, itself, is getting around to some of its own "truth-telling" on environmental matters, as we speak...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:32 PM
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5. This will confuse the swing voters
Trickle down: good in Amurka's economy, bad in ecology, good in economy, bad in econo..D'OH!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:51 PM
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8. I'm sure that the Right Wing has already commissioned a think tank to
offer another "side" to this story, as they have with lies about global warming, and just about everything else.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 04:52 PM
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10. Yes, can't wait for the Cato/AEI/Frontiers Of Freedom to chime in . . .
Along with all the rest of the corpo-whores.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:11 PM
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11. That's what conservatives don't get
Environmentalists are concerned for human beings because, at the top of the food chain, everything, but EVERYTHING, that happens to more simple organisms will happen to us. It may show up as an increase in cancer or other disease rates, but it WILL happen.

Stupid cheneying repukes.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:32 PM
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12. but the "compassion" in "Compassionate Conservative"
...doesn't mean "compassion" for the earth. Why -- that'd be paganism! Never mind that we live on it!
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:58 PM
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15. Actually, there's one extinction
that might have a positive trickle-down effect. It turns out I've been a supporter of this extinction for some years now, but I've never put a name to it.

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement


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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:11 PM
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16. A little overkill, ain't it?
Downsize to a couple hundred million and it's gonna be OK.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:18 PM
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17. It also works the other way....
If a species all of a sudden has no competitors, it tends to expand strongly. That's also part of evolution.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 01:58 AM
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19. kick
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