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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:59 AM
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Army Says C.I.A. Hid More Iraqis Than It Claimed
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/10/politics/10abuse.html?th=&pagewanted=print&position=

September 10, 2004
PRISON SCANDAL

Army Says C.I.A. Hid More Iraqis Than It Claimed

By ERIC SCHMITT and DOUGLAS JEHL

WASHINGTON, Sept. 9 - Army jailers in Iraq, acting at the Central Intelligence Agency's request, kept dozens of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison and other detention facilities off official rosters to hide them from Red Cross inspectors, two senior Army generals said Thursday. The total is far more than had been previously reported.

An Army inquiry completed last month found eight documented cases of so-called ghost detainees, but two of the investigating generals said in testimony before two Congressional committees and in interviews on Thursday that depositions from military personnel who served at the prison indicated that the real total was many times higher.

"The number is in the dozens, to perhaps up to 100," Gen. Paul J. Kern, the senior officer who oversaw the Army inquiry, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. Another investigator, Maj. Gen. George R. Fay, put the figure at "two dozen or so," but both officers said they could not give a precise number because no records were kept on most of the C.I.A. detainees.

Under the Geneva Conventions, the temporary failure to disclose the identities of prisoners to the Red Cross is permitted under an exemption for military necessity. But the Army generals said they were certain that the practice used by the C.I.A. in Iraq went far beyond that.

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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:24 AM
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 AM
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2. Democrats in Congress need to talk about this loudly!
We need our Democratic representatives to start giving press conferences and blasting the Bush administration for all these things.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:45 AM
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3. This is the army speaking
damn can't they say anything positive?
Damn that 'liberal' army!
Lets see, how can Karl smear and destroy these guys?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:50 AM
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4. I'm watching the hearings now on Cspan
http://www.cspan.org/

Senate Hearing on Army Abu Ghraib Report


Watching for highlights, will be back with times
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:28 AM
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5. Some highlights


Sen Carl Levin 58:00

Sen Mcain 1:06

Sen Kennedy 1:16

Sen. Jack Reed 1:38 he was good
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 12:21 PM
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6. I was able to hear Kennedy
He came out swinging, thought he was right on the money.
:thumbsup:
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