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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:21 PM
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Schwarzenegger Signs Bill Banning Sex with Corpses
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Having sex with corpses is now officially illegal in California after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill barring necrophilia, a spokeswoman said on Friday.

The new legislation marks the culmination of a two-year drive to outlaw necrophilia in the state and will help prosecutors who have been stymied by the lack of an official ban on the practice, according to experts.

"Nobody knows the full extent of the problem. ... But a handful of instances over the past decade is frequent enough to have a bill concerning it," said Tyler Ochoa, a professor at Santa Clara University School of Law who has studied California cases involving allegations of necrophilia.

"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first place, prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.

more…
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=6208717
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:22 PM
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1. Does this mean no more ficky-ficky with Maria?
She looks like the Cryptkeerper.
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daligirrl Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:00 PM
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29. ROFLMBAO!!
I've been wondering how long Maria's been dead! This is ban is entirely self-serving to Ahhhhhnold!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:22 PM
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2. yuck - well, he didn't really have to go out on a limb with this one.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 PM
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3. Seems to me the law would still apply...
"Prosecutors didn't have anything to charge these people with other than breaking and entering. But if they worked in a mortuary in the first place, prosecutors couldn't even charge them with that," Ochoa said.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 PM
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4. Damn Government
Always trying to restrict our rights. Well, so much for the plans I had for the evening...
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:23 PM
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5. Now there's a priority
Why, I was just walking down the street the other day...:P
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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6. That won't stop me.
Doesnt mean a thing if you don't get caught, and dead people are really good at keeping secrets.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:57 PM
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44. good point.
until you call the coroner, it is your little secret.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:43 AM
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56. what if the corpse were your mother or sister
ummm, at first I thought, doesn't the illustrious mister muscles have anything else to do, but when this is going on with even one body, I say lock the sick son of a bitch up.
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ropi Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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7. what's next?
banning sex with the blow-up dolls?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:25 PM
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8. That'll look good on his resume.
Jaaaa ... no more fokking deee corpzez een kaleeforneeya. Now make dee ahmenment to let me be dee preezeedent. Jaaaa....
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:27 PM
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9. Another courageous Republican...not afraid to alienate the necro-vote
eom
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:32 PM
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15. LOL!
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:32 PM
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16. Actually, I bet Arnold just pissed off a whole lot of
Republicans - this kind of stuff is right up their alley.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:28 PM
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10. Next Milestone: Ban On Shooting Cute Puppies In The Head.
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 07:28 PM by Citizen Daryl
Ahnold: Tackling De Tuff Izhoos.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:28 PM
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11. I once knew a girl who was secretary at a mortuary
and boy, the stories she would tell.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:29 PM
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12. Wow! Arnold's popularity will go sky high now!
Presidential material for sure!
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DemWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM
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13. Damn, I guess Donna of the Dead and I are off for tonight...
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM by DemWitch
there goes my chance for a starring roll in Underground Comedy Movie Part 2...


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doreme Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:36 PM
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18. i just hope
cheney doesn't die in california.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:31 PM
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14. Do you think he lost any sleep over signing this one?
He probably had to check with Maria first.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:34 PM
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17. Not exactly headline news. (nt)
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:38 PM
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19. What will Cheney do? Guess he'll avoid CA. eom
eom
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:40 PM
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20. um, it was legal before?
wow.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:40 PM
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21. Dead Men Don't Pay Taxes
which makes me wonder what the real motivation behind this is
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:40 PM
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22. So far, this is his greatest accomplishment
Way to take a stand, Arnold Schwarzenegger. You've done yourself proud.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:50 PM
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23. Thanks all you clever posters.....
I have not laughed this hard in a long time!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:51 PM
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24. OK RW groupies, no more fucking Rumsfeld when he is in Cali!!
no, no one needed to say that, did they?

:7
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:52 PM
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25. well, this is one bill he can claim he didn't receive any contributions
that influenced his decision.
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:54 PM
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26. Maybe he got stood up by a stiff.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:54 PM
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27. What about same sex corpses?
Shouldn't those be doubly banned?
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 07:58 PM
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28. Gee, I wonder if this bill bans groping, too?
:eyes:
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:13 PM
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30. Heh
Good.

Now Rush can't dig up Reagan and...never mind.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 04:20 AM
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73. Darn it, you stole my line! lol.
I was going to ask why he didn't ban groping them as well. Guess he has to have some form of stimulation. Ewwwwwwwww.

Boy, I tell you, I'm so glad California is in such capable hands.
:puke:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:46 PM
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31. it's this very sorta shit that gives me hope that we'll all be put down...
.....out of our misery once and for all...the sooner the f'n better...it's this very kind o'thing that proves there's not a chance in hell o' anything gettin' better...when garbage like this is NEWS and important gov't time is wasted on such a NON ISSUE...GODDAMMIT ALL....shoot me now...please! :evilfrown:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:04 AM
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70. After I shoot you...
want to get together?
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 08:52 PM
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32. Damn, there goes my plans for the weekend.
I'm wondering if lawyers can get an exemption on this one. Estate attorneys have been known to screw people long after they are dead. At least Arnie signed a piece of legislation. Must have been a cause dear to his heart
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:02 PM
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33. I'm sorry, is necrophilia immoral in some way?
I mean, I personally find it beyond disgusting, but is it in some way immoral or unethical?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:31 AM
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63. Wow.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:06 PM
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34. Uh ... was this a big problem-o in Californ-o?
Sounds like a few isolated weirdnesses to me. B&E? Look-it, anybody who would break into a mortuary to screw an old corpse needs to be in the loony-bin, not the lock-up. Seriously.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:25 PM
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38. It is a huge problem because the victims were reluctant to testify.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:29 PM
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39. Che-chunk, che-chunk!
Left myself wide open for that one.
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baldingrockwarlord Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:18 PM
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35. It's good to see that...
the guvernator is passing some meaningful legislation for Cah-lee-four-nee-ya. Now that screwing cadavers is illegal...too think of the fun I was missing out on!
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:24 PM
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36. Well, it's about time
Look, sex is between a man and a living woman, not a man and a corpse, or WORSE- a man and another man.
SEE!!?!?! WE SAID IT WAS A SLIPPERY SLOPE!
Stupid GOP
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:25 PM
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37. Ummmm.....GOOD????
I don't know a whole lot of people who support necrophelia. After all, it's not like a corpse can give consent....
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:34 PM
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40. Does this just make intercourse with dead people illegal?
or can you still do other things. Can you at least fondle em a little bit. What about the poor widow whose husband couldn't get an erection for the last 20 years. Now he has finally got a stiffie and she has to pass on it. This just ain't right. Next they will say you can't have sex with animals once they pass away. I guess this is the kind of crazy stuff that happens once you allow two people of the same sex to marry. The repubs were right all along.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:11 PM
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45. Too funny. I'm from California. Someone please take this fool away!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:07 AM
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71. Can you still have relations
with a dead box turtle?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:42 PM
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41. Who thought this one up????
Why in the world would anyone think to make something like that needs to have a law to make it wrong? I have a bigger problem with whoever thought of this to make it into a bill than I have with Arnold for signing it!
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:50 PM
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42. actually
as weird as it is, and as humorous as some of the comments have been. If you read the article, it sort of makes sense. Until now they didn't have anything to charge people with who did this. All they could charge them with was 'breaking and entering' (I'm serious) and if they worked in a mortuary where the incident took place, they couldn't even charge them with that. I think if I was a relative of the deceased, it would disturb me to know some wacko was going to walk after he got caught humping my dead grandmother.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:16 PM
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46. We have sodomy laws, and rape laws and this doesn't fit any?
I thought the definition of rape or statutory rape was intercourse without consent or the ability to grant concent. Is it possible for a corpse to grant concenet???

I guess if the Ca. legislature thinks they have to have a specific law, then go for it. It just seems pretty strange to me.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:42 PM
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50. What about sex between consenting corpses?
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:43 PM
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51. Doesn't this sort of discriminate against the living?
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:50 PM
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43. Profiles in courage
Seriously....who's gonna complain?
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:26 PM
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47. Stopping In for a Cold One
Stopping in for a cold one is now off limits.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:30 PM
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48. How can necrophilia be a crime if the victim isn't available to testify
against the defendant? This law sounds unconstitutional . . .
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:35 PM
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49. Must... not... post!... overload... error!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:45 PM
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52. Oh, now THAT'S the proverbial third rail of political issues, isn't it?
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:01 AM
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53. gross!!!
you mean this was legal before?
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:32 AM
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55. yeah, but it has always been frowned upon...
it isn't like you brag about, or do it in public.
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jackieforthedems Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:17 AM
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54. Guess I've Been Living In Another World
or something. I didn't know stuff like that was going on. Yuck! That's just gross!!!
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:48 AM
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57. Republicans are sure obsessed with sex, aren't they? n/t
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:51 AM
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58. OK, Ahh-Nuld's been listening to Sam Kinnison, hasn't he?
"Necrophilia.....Oh, Yeah, fucking the DEAD...I know all about fucking the Dead...I WAS MARRIED FOR FIFTEEN YEARS!!!!"

In Indiana, I think it's called "Abuse of a Body" and covers shit like dumping the departed in a dumpster, setting them out on the kerb in a hefty bag and yes, slipping them the long tong.....
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:54 AM
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59. That's his Friday night excitement?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:54 AM
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60. "first they banned sex with corpses...
then they banned...

Then they came for me"

The chicken f*cker lobby should take a lesson from the NRA.

Accept no compromises. Cluck now or cluck off.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:11 AM
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61. They musta been worried about some Freeper digging up Reagan
and, well... you know.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:18 AM
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62. So republicans can't get it on with Reagan any more?
:shrug:
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:37 AM
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64. You Know, First People Start Having Sex With Corpses
next thing you know, people will start having sex with pet frogs or something, or even worse, enter into homosexual relationships :eyes:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:43 AM
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65. As he signed, did he say "Hasta la vista, dead baby?"
Arnie sure can pick his wedge issues.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:45 AM
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66. This idiot is a waste of our tax money.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 01:55 AM
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67. See this is why we need a constitutional amendment
to ban sex with corpses.

Activist judges might overturn this law.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:03 AM
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69. NOoooooOOOOOooooOOOOO
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:01 AM
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68. Well,
that takes care of any chance that I had to get a date with someone. Damn you Arnold.x(
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 02:40 AM
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72. This won't go over too well with Republicans...
it literally forces them to be celibate! :evilgrin:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 07:47 AM
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74. I think this is one of those laws that will be hard to enforce.
Just who will do the reporting on it? Did he have all old white guys standing around his chair as he sighed it in to law? Sorry but it really sounds like some thing out of "The far Side".
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