Agency to join 9/11 lawsuit against Saudis

[Rose Siding]

NEW YORK -- The government agency that owns the World Trade Center site said Friday it intends to hold Saudi Arabia and nearly 100 other defendants liable for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people and destroyed the complex.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey announced that it planned to join late Friday as a plaintiff in a lawsuit filed a week ago by Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, a bond trading firm that lost two-thirds of its workers in the trade center attack.

A Port Authority spokesman said shortly before 6 p.m. that the government agency had not yet filed its papers joining the lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, but that it planned to do so before midnight in an after-hours box at the court.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2004/09/10/agency_to_join_911_lawsuit_against_saudis/

[enki23]

1. is james baker working on the defense yet?

.

[robbedvoter]

6. Oh, no! he is also busy negotiating the debates for Chimpy!

Saudis, Chimpy - whom to serve first?

WASHINGTON, Sept. 9 - In the Kerry corner there are two of the most powerful lawyers in Washington, Vernon E. Jordan Jr. and Robert B. Barnett, not to mention the sitting governors of Michigan and Arizona, Jennifer M. Granholm and Janet Napolitano.
In the Bush corner there is a former secretary of state, James A. Baker III, not to mention the hard-knuckled lobbyist turned governor of Mississippi who once headed the Republican Party, Haley Barbour, and one of the party's sharpest media personalities, Mary Matalin.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/10/politics/campaign/10d...

[rfranklin]

2. This is probably what will unravel the Bush-Saudi conspiracy...

Big money, not basic decency and justice, will be the downfall of the 9/11 perpetrators.

[peacetalksforall]

3. Good! Separate subject - I've been thinking about John O'Neill a lot

lately. The John O'Neill of the FBI who left not long before 9-11 and became a honcho at the WTC - died there. Was at odds with???? the WH? the FBI? NSC?

Is his family participating in any of the councils and groups or in the lawsuit? I wish someone could write a book or a chapter about him. Any links?

[pinniped]

4. No, no, no!

I heard a radio ad the other day and the Saudi dude said his country has been exonerated by the 9/11 commission!

[mountainvue]

5. The Port Authority?

My, how interesting.

[Guaranteed]

7. Oh, James Baker won't be happy about that! nt

[olddad56]

8. why haven't they considered naming the Bush Crime Family as

co-defendants?

[leesa]

9. Excellent! Let's name their pals, the Bush Crime Family as well

Baker will have to move quickly after he fixes the debates to fix this mess.

[DulceDecorum]

10. Suing for petrodollars

Posted 5/7/2003
NEW YORK — A federal judge in New York City on Wednesday found Iraq among those liable for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and awarded nearly $104 million to the families of two men who died in the World Trade Center.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Harold Baer marked the first time that a court had pinned some blame for the attacks on Iraq.
<snip>
Baer relied on testimony from former CIA director James Woolsey and from author Laurie Mylroie in determining that Iraq "provided material support" to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. He also cited Colin Powell's speech to the United Nations on Feb. 5 in which the secretary of State linked Iraq to Islamist terrorism.
The testimony, Baer wrote, "barely" established a link between al-Qaeda and Iraq but offered enough proof to persuade a "reasonable jury."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-05-07-911-judge-awards_x.htm

Who exactly is this Laurie Mylroie?

She is a conspiracy theorist whose political conceits have consistently been proved wrong. So why were Bush and his aides so keen to swallow Laurie Mylroie's theories on Saddam and terrorism?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1254072,00.html

Saudi Arabia has become increasing more and more concerned about the madness of King George.
On August 29, 2001,
according to an October 2001 report in the Wall Street Journal,
Crown Prince Abdullah sent an emissary to Crawford bearing a missive which said:
"A time comes when peoples and nations part. We are at a crossroads. It is time for the United States and Saudi Arabia to look to their separate interests. Those governments that don't feel the pulse of their people and respond to it will suffer the fate of the Shah of Iran."
Bush laughed.

ROBERT SIEGEL, host: One aspect of the Saudi-US relationship is financial. The Saudis bank much of their considerable national wealth in the United States in dollars. According to Youssef Ibrahim of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Saudis are so distressed by US Middle East policy right now that some bankers are making noises about taking Saudi deposits elsewhere.
Mr. YOUSSEF IBRAHIM (Council on Foreign Relations): When you think about Saudi Arabia, here is a statistic to ponder. There are 200 families in Saudi Arabia who control more than $200 million each. And if you do the calculation and the math, generally speaking, we estimate that there is between $550 billion to $650 billion of private Saudi money invested largely in the United States or United States-related instruments. In addition to this, of course, the Saudi government has invested in Treasury bonds something along the lines of $70 billion. And there is, of course, oil. Saudi Arabia does sit on one-third of the world's oil reserves. The other third, Iran and Iraq sit on it, and we are not speaking to either of them.
SIEGEL: And if, in fact, the Saudis were so upset with the US that they said, `We're going to first of all take our money elsewhere,' where would they take it?
Mr. IBRAHIM: That's a good question, and there aren't really too many alternatives, but I must say that the euro is evolving as a mighty alternative.
http://www.cfr.org/pub4640/youssef_michel_ibrahim/youssef_ibrahim_discusses_saudi_feelings_toward_the_us.php

The Saudis demanded all their money back forthwith and this caused a run on US financial institutions. By Monday, September 10, 2001, it was apparent that the US would be forced to default if the Saudis continued pulling petro-dollars out of the western banking system.

Cantor Fitzgerald,
a very small firm which happens to be the world's largest broker of U.S. Government securities, Eurobonds, and sovereign debt,
found itself in an EXTREMELY bad position
as a result of adverse Saudi action.

August 17, 2004: 5:17 PM EDT
Cantor and its eSpeed Inc. (ESPD: Research, Estimates) electronic bond brokerage unit are among the top intermediaries trading securities, especially U.S. Treasury bonds, between major Wall Street and European banks.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/17/news/midcaps/cantor.reut/

Luckily for The Firm, their leader,
Howard Lutnick, aka the grim weeper is very well connected.
http://www.akst.com/cantor.htm
to the Naval War College and the Pentagon.
http://www.nwc.navy.mil/y2k/y2kmayra.htm

Hence the lawsuit:
Sept. 3 2004 (Bloomberg) -- Cantor Fitzgerald LP, the bond broker that lost about 60 percent of its New York employees in the 2001 World Trade Center terrorist attacks, filed a $7 billion lawsuit against Saudi Arabia, al-Qaeda and more than 50 Middle Eastern banks and foundations.
<snip>
The families of two men who died in the World Trade Center - - Timothy Soulas, a senior managing director at Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, and George Eric Smith, a senior business analyst at SunGard Asset Management -- are suing many of the same defendants in New York federal court.
In May 2003, U.S. District Judge Harold Baer ruled that Iraq aided Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda in the World Trade Center attack, and awarded $104 million to the families of Soulas and Smith.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aK7KqGCU_Ll0&refer=home

Justice Baer was kind enough to award damages in the anti-Iraq lawsuit depite the scant evidence. Perhaps Canot Fitzgerald is relying on persuading the court lcerk to assign them a like-minded judge. That might explain their nonchalance in ensuring that certain types of paperwork exist on the public record.

Here is sample list of persons who were employed by Cantor Fitzgerald.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-employer/page12.html
This list only includes those whose last names began with the letter A or the letter B.
The list has been cross checked with the SSDI.
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

As marvelous a finding aid as it is, the SSDI does not include the names of everyone, even if they had a Social Security number (SNN). If relatives or the funeral home did not report the death to the Social Security Administration, or if the individual died before 1962 (when the records were computerized) then they probably will not appear in this database. The omission of an individual in this index does not indicate the person is still living. It simply means that there was no report of the person's death to Social Security Administration.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm
(V)=(Verified) Report verified with a family member or someone acting on behalf of a family member.
(P)=(Proof) Death Certificate Observed

Here are the results of cross-checking the CNN list against the SSDI database.

Andrew Anthony Abate Nothing found
Vincent Abate VINCENT P ABATE 23 May 1961-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Laurence Abel LAURENCE C ABEL 28 Oct 1963-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Paul Andrew Acquaviva Nothing found
Donald L. Adams Nothing found
Shannon Lewis Adams Nothing found
Lee Adler Nothing found
Daniel Thomas Afflitto DANIEL AFFLITTO 04 May 1969-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Alok Agarwal ALOK AGARWAL 03 May 1965-11 Sep 2001 (V)
David Agnes DAVID AGNES 10 Sep 1955-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Joanne Ahladiotis JOANNE M AHLADIOTIS 10 Jun 1974-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Andrew Alameno Nothing found
Edward L. Allegretto Nothing found
Joseph Ryan Allen JOSEPH R ALLEN 06 Feb 1962-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Christopher Edward Allingham Nothing found
Michael Rourke Andrews Nothing found
Laura Angilletta Nothing found
Lorraine D. Antigua Nothing found
Peter Paul Apollo Nothing found
Frank Thomas Aquilino Nothing found
Michael J. Armstrong Nothing found
Joshua Aron Nothing found
Michael Edward Asher Nothing found


John James Badagliacca Nothing found
Jane Ellen Baeszler Nothing found
Paul V. Barbaro Nothing found
Ivan Kyrillos Fairbanks Barbosa Nothing found
Colleen Ann Barkow Nothing found
Renee Barrett-Arjune Nothing found
Carlton W. Bartels Nothing found
Guy Barzvi GUY BARZVI 23 Feb 1972-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Inna Basina Nothing found
Alysia Basmajian Nothing found
W. David Bauer WALTER D BAUER 07 Mar 1956-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Larry I. Beck Nothing found
Maria Behr Nothing found
Debbie S. Bellows Nothing found
Bryan Craig Bennett Nothing found
Dominick J. Berardi DOMINICK BERARDI 07 Feb 1976-11 Sep 2001
Alvin Bergsohn ALVIN BERGSOHN 13 Jun 1953-11 Sep 2001 (P)
William Bernstein WILLIAM H BERNSTEIN 28 Dec 1958-11 Sep 2001
Timothy D. Betterly Nothing found
Bella Bhukhan Nothing found
Joshua David Birnbaum Nothing found
Balewa Albert Blackman Nothing found
Craig Michael Blass Nothing found
John Paul Bocchi Nothing found
Bruce Douglas (Chappy) Boehm Nothing found
Martin Boryczewski Nothing found
Thomas H. Bowden Jr Nothing found
Kimberly S. Bowers Nothing found
Shawn Edward Bowman Jr. Nothing found
Alfred Braca Nothing found
Michelle Renee Bratton MICHELLE R BRATTON 26 Apr 1978-11 Sep 2001 (P)
Edward A. Brennan III Nothing found
Frank H. Brennan Nothing found
Mark Francis Broderick Nothing found
Lloyd Brown Nothing found
Brandon J. Buchanan BRANDON J BUCHANAN 09 Apr 1977-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Dennis Buckley Nothing found
Patrick Joseph Buhse Nothing found
John E. Bulaga Jr. Nothing found
Stephen Bunin Nothing found
Matthew J. Burke Nothing found
Thomas Daniel Burke Nothing found
Keith James Burns KEITH BURNS 09 Feb 1962-11 Sep 2001 (V)
Milton Bustillo Nothing found

There are 24 more letters in the alphabet.
You are strongly encouraged to
cross-check the ENTIRE Cantor Fitzgerald employee list
against the SSDI database.

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http://www.ssa.gov/515/ssaguidelines.html

Draw your own conclusions.