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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:37 AM
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CBS-Rather Update:Authenticity of Bush Sugar Coat Memo Further Questioned
Edited on Sat Sep-11-04 08:51 AM by GOPAgainstGW
Authenticity of memo to 'sugar coat' Bush record is further questioned
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/washington/stories/091104dnpolguard.117c8.html
12:11 AM CDT on Saturday, September 11, 2004
By PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – The man named in a disputed memo as exerting pressure to "sugar coat" President Bush's military record left the Texas Air National Guard a year and a half before the memo was supposedly written, his own service record shows.

An order obtained by The Dallas Morning News shows that Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt was honorably discharged on March 1, 1972. CBS News reported this week that a memo in which Col. Staudt was described as interfering with officers' negative evaluations of Mr. Bush's service was dated Aug. 18, 1973. That added to mounting questions about the authenticity of documents that seem to suggest Mr. Bush sought special favors and did not fulfill his service.

Col. Staudt, who lives in New Braunfels, did not return calls seeking comment. His discharge paper was among a packet of documents obtained by The News from official sources during 1999 research into Mr. Bush's Guard record. A CBS staffer stood by the story, suggesting that Col. Staudt could have continued to exert influence over Guard officials. But a former high-ranking Guard official disputed that, saying retirement would have left Col. Staudt powerless over remaining officials.

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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:41 AM
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1. Then it's settled?

Whether or not the document is fake, the fact remains:

Bush has not explained why he refused to take his flight physical.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:45 AM
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8. Kitty Kelley Says Bush Refused Medical Exam Because of His Drug Use
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:48 AM
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11. CBS Right - On Bush Guard Memo Per Kitty Kelley Book
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:41 AM
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2. How odd...
didn't Lt Bush "leave" the guard a year and a half before his hitch was up also?

Tut-tut
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:42 AM
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3. Other Threads have pointed out that Staudt could still exert PRESSURE
even after he retired, as does this story.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:02 AM
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14. you got it... it's called " the middle man" or "go between"
a tool the bush family uses in everything they touch.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:04 AM
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15. All the "favors" were 'extra-military'
That's the whole point.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:42 AM
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4. He may have been retired, but was he still active. Was he a friend of the
family. he could still have contacts in the guard. people retire and still have influence in an organization after they retire. The military/national Guard is no is no different. My dad was in the Air Guard, he did things with them after he retired.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:43 AM
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5. See Four Memos regarding Pres. Bush's National Guard Service
The four memos were written by Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, Mr. Bush's commander at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston who died in 1984. They were in his personnel file, and suggest his growing frustration at Mr. Bush's attitude toward fulfilling his Guard duty:

Bush ordered to report for physical (May 1972)
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/img/09-04/barnes4.pdf

Bush asks for transfer to Alabama (May 1972)
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/img/09-04/barnes3.pdf

Bush suspended from flight status (Aug. 1972)
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/img/09-04/barnes1.pdf

Pressure to evaluate Bush (Aug. 1973)
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/img/09-04/barnes2.pdf
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rvgwinn Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:43 AM
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6. Yah Right!
Connections are connections, The military takes care of its own.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:44 AM
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7. "retirement would have left Col. Staudt powerless "?
Why sure, only active duty ranking officers could have any clout with the Guard - that's how Ben Barnes got * in; he's a commissioned 4 star f**king general with the Guard, right?

I mean, if a retired colonel is powerless, then no way an ordinary civvie politician could have any clout, right?

I mean, if Colin Powell calls up the TANG offices with an idea, they'll just telling him to go cheney himself, right?

Glad I could clear this up!!!



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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:47 AM
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10. obviously not . eom
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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:45 AM
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9. Your headline is misleading and is not the headline of the article.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:48 AM
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12. Bush is a guy you want to have a line of coke with. n/t
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 08:49 AM
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13. Retired does not preclude pressure.
I'm sure he still heald quite a bit of sway in TANG.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:05 AM
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16. If Status after retirement wasn't there
the Pentagon wouldn't have all those ex-generals walking the halls lobbying for the defense contractors!!!!

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:09 AM
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17. How long can they milk this junk to avoid talking about any relevant
issues?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:14 AM
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18. Retired means nothing - When I was in the AF a Col I worked with
was forced to retire after 30 years. The next day he came back to work - IN UNIFORM. All he did was put masking tape aver his rank insignia and US Air Force of his fatigues.

Ok, obviously, this medical doctor/researcher was a hard case (and a tad insane - in a good way) and he eventually got a civilian job create for him, but he worked in the facility for months without authorization or pay - all the while wearing his odd uniform. I have no idea if there was some sort of understanding, but I do know had anyone told him to go home you'd better have had the Air Police standing with you.

The point of this stroll down memory lane is to note that a retired Col can be very powerful and exert pressure even after his "departure".

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 09:20 AM
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19. You bet your a - - that Staudt had to see that Bush
got an honorable discharge, and that was what the Aug 73 memo was all about. He was very close to GHWB and was ultimately responsible for covering up for Bush's delinquent behavior. If Bush hadn't gotten that honorable discharge Staudt would have come under scrutiny.
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