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TexasDem4life Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:40 AM
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Times latest Poll: Bush Bounce Persists
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,695528,00.html

Presidential choice question based on likely voters. All other results, unless noted, based on registered voters. Telephone interviewing was conducted September 7 – 9

Last week’s seismic voter shift to George W. Bush showed no signs of dwindling in this week’s Time Poll. Bush continues to lead Democratic challenger John Kerry among likely voters by double digits, 52% - 41%, in the three way race, with Nader at 3%, the same as last week.

Putting this into perspective, just a month ago, post-Democratic convention, the Time Poll had Kerry with a statistically significant lead over Bush, 48% - 43%.

Vote for President?

(Likely Voters)


Sept. 7-Sept. 9
Aug. 31-Sept. 2
Aug. 24-26
Aug. 3-5

Bush
52%
52%
46%
43%

Kerry
41%
41%
44%
48%

Nader
3%
3%
5%
4%

Don't know
3%
3%
3%
3%






With almost two months left, and the candidate debates upcoming, it is still too soon to conclude whether the Bush bounce will translate into continuing momentum or fall back down to the ground. Clearly, this Time Poll finds no signs of Bush erosion so far. By contrast, Kerry’s standing vs. Bush on key issues, such as the economy and fighting terrorism, have slipped. Moreover, a late August Time Poll, taken before the Republican Convention, captured the first signs of Kerry slippage following blistering attacks on Kerry’s Vietnam service.

Historically, bounces often do disappear. For example, Jimmy Carter’s 10 point bounce after the 1980 Democratic Convention evaporated quickly. Presidential debates have also been turning points in some Presidential elections, starting with the first televised debate, Kennedy vs. Nixon, in 1960. The upcoming debates could well sway the vote. Therefore, the race remains in flux in spite of recent setbacks to the Kerry camp.



Kerry’s Woes

Troubling for Kerry is that the Republicans have continued to shift the nation's agenda toward terrorism, a Bush stronghold, and away from the economy, as the voters’ decisive issue. Terrorism is now at 26%, up 8 points from early August, among registered voters. Republicans, both at the New York convention last week and since, have pounded Kerry on the terrorism issue. The economy, long a Kerry strength, has slipped to second place, at 24%, down 3 points since early August among registered voters.

Most important Issues in Vote Decision

(Registered Voters)


Sept.7-Sept.9
Aug. 31-Sept. 2
Aug. 3-5
Jul. 20-22

War on Terrorism
26%
24%
18%
18%

Economy
24%
25%
27%
27%

Situation in Iraq
17%
17%
19%
21%

Moral Values Issues
17%
16%
18%
16%

Health Care
9%
11%
11%
2%






Even more damaging to Kerry is that Bush now has a 6 point lead on handling of the economy, 50% - 44%. Just one month ago, Kerry had the edge, 51% - 42%.

Bush has also taken commanding leads over Kerry on handing of the following issues:

War on terrorism: Bush is up 23 percentage points over Kerry, 58% - 35%, compared to an 8 point lead in early August.
Situation in Iraq: Bush is up 20 points over Kerry, 57% - 37%, compared to a 2 point edge in early August.
Commander in Chief: Bush is up 20 points over Kerry, 57% - 37%, compared to a tie in early August.
Kerry now has only a small edge on health care, 47% - 42%, falling from an 18 point margin in early August. He’s now just even up with Bush, 47% Bush – 44% Kerry, on “understanding the needs of people like yourself,” after leading Bush by 15 points in early August.



Key Electability Indicators

Bush’s ratings on three key questions tied to electability have risen in recent weeks, but Bush still gets tentative scores on two of the three.

Job rating: Bush is now at 56% approve – 41% disapprove, solidly above the 50% historical threshold for re-electing incumbents. A month ago, he was up only 5 points, with his favorability just at 50%.

Deserves re-election?: Bush has cracked the 50% mark for the first time in recent Poll history, with 52% saying he deserves re-election, while 45% saying it’s time for someone new. Just a month ago, Bush was down by 12 points on deserving re-election.

Right Direction?: Voters are now almost evenly divided on whether the country is headed in the right direction or on the wrong track, 46% - 49%. However that’s up from 44% right direction – 51% wrong track in early August.
Bush Favorability Up, Kerry Down

Bush’s favorability scores have risen significantly, to 54% favorable - 38% unfavorable. In early August, his favorability was even, 45% favorable – 45% unfavorable. Meanwhile, Kerry’s unfavorable ratings have increased significantly. His favorable – unfavorable scores are now even, 43% favorable – 42% unfavorable. In early August, Kerry favorable – unfavorable ratio was almost 2 to 1, 53% favorable – 29% unfavorable.


Bush Post-Republican Convention

Bush’s scores on a battery of character and performance questions improved significantly last week. The Poll finds no damage so far from recently published allegations that Bush evaded duties while in the National Guard during the Vietnam War. Comparing his standing in the Time pre-Republican Convention poll in late August to this week’s post-Convention poll, we find that Bush burnished his image among registered voters in the following areas:

Likeability: 70% now say it “accurately describes” Bush, compared to 65% pre-Convention.
Understands the issues: 61% say it accurately describes Bush, compared to 54% pre-Convention.
Cares about people like you: 53% now, up from 50% pre-Convention.
Has good judgment: 54% now, up from 50% pre-Convention.
Has clear plans to solve America’s problems: 49% now, up from 44%.

Iraq

Voters remain divided on Iraq. A slim majority, 53% now says the U.S. was “right to go to war” with Iraq, but 43% say it was wrong. In early August voters divided evenly, 47% - 47% on Iraq.

Voters are also evenly divided about whether actions in Iraq have made the world safer, 44% safer – 46% more dangerous. In early August, a narrow majority of voters (52% more dangerous – 38% safer) believed that the actions made the world more dangerous.

Wither the Gender Gap?

This week’s Time Poll finds surprising Kerry slippage among females – long a Democratic mainstay. Females are now evenly split between Bush (45%) and Kerry (44%). Males heavily favor Bush, 56% - 34%. In early August, females gave Kerry a sizeable 50%-36% lead over Bush.

“Movable” Voter Pool Shrinking

This week’s Time Poll also finds slight shrinkage in the number of “movable” likely voters, that is, likely voters who are either undecided (3%) or say they might change their minds after choosing a candidate in the poll (12%). Moveables are now down to 15%, from 19% in late August.

Methodology

This Time Magazine poll was conducted by telephone September 7 – 9, 2004 among a random sample of 1,219 adults throughout America. The random sample includes 1,013 reported registered voters and 857 likely voters. The margin of error for registered voters is approximately +/-3 percentage points. The margin of error for likely voters is approximately +/- 4% points.

Likely voters reported party identifications are: 34% Republican, 35% Democratic, 22% Independents.
Registered voters party affiliations are: 31% Republican, 32% Democratic, 26% Independent.
Schulman, Ronca, & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs designed the survey and conducted all interviewing. The full Time questionnaire and trend data may be found at www.srbi.com.



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TexasDem4life Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:43 AM
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1. Oh my god!
I thought I had an explanation for this until I saw this

"Likely voters reported party identifications are: 34% Republican, 35% Democratic, 22% Independents."

I thought FOR SURE they had polled more pubes!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:48 AM
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2. Still underreporting Dems by 4%.
Enjoy your stay. :hi:
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TexasDem4life Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:50 AM
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3. Just wait, we'll get the big momentum back :) N/T
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:02 AM
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7. My prayer is that * wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college.
I love irony and find the thought to be simply delicious.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:49 AM
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17. Sounds like they're interviewing "Zell Miller" Dems...
...something I suspect you might know something about.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:53 AM
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4. Not surprised.
First of all, this poll was taken the week after the chimp's convention; it's going to show the strongest results for him.

Next, average turnout was in the neighborhood of 39% for the elections between 1992 and 2000. Dems are still undersampled in this poll.

I'd like to know the registered voters' results on the big question. That'd be interesting.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 10:54 AM
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5. I have decided to stop reading Time and NewsweAk.
I will not support anyone who props up this regime.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:05 AM
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8. Honestly, within a week from the convention....
...Bush's "Bounce" shouldn't have eroded or even truly started eroding. The "Strength" from the convention is still fresh in peoples' minds. Hopfully TANGgate will hurt him the way swiftboats have hurt Kerry.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:01 AM
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6. But, Kerry is ahead of Bush! 273 vs. 233 in electoral votes.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:06 AM
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9. I have slightly different poll % for 8/5/04 Time poll.
I've been keeping track of the polls in a spreadsheet. Here are two Time polls from about a month ago:

Time.7/20-22/04.Reg.voters..Bush 44..Kerry 46..Nader 5..Undec 4 (K+2)
Time.8/5/2004..LV..Bush 44..Kerry 51..Nader n/a (K+7)
Time.8/5/2004..RV..Bush 43..Kerry 51..Nader n/a (K+8)

I keep a spreadsheet of poll results. I wonder why I recorded Kerry 51% to Bush 44% for LV, when Time now says it was 48% to 43%?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:07 AM
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10. Ummm...the Times has purchased Bush for their personal use.
Why would they put an accurate poll out? Folks. These are the same people that have been backing Bush no matter how irrational. Do not trust them. Open your eyes and look around you. Talk to real people.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:11 AM
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11. Newsweek has the bounce down to 6% from 11% 49/43
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:40 AM
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15. Do you have a link for that?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:12 AM
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12. Time 7/20-22/04 Bush job approval rating = 50%
The Time 8/24-26/04 Bush job approval rating = 51%.

Not much change. The Time article above implies that there's been a big shift in job approval ratings. I don't see it. His approval rating has indeed gone up over 50% in a few polls, but not gone over 50% in others. But in any case, there hasn't been a huge swing up in the Bush job approval %. Why the hype?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:13 AM
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13. This thread is breaking all the posting rules
And this thread's originator posts FreeRepublic as a news source in another Late Breaking Rules threads and also keeps shouting that the CBS memos are fakes.

Is it no wonder this poster wants to highlight bad news for Kerry by making sure he includes all the negative news stories here at DU.

Someone is taking advantage of the fact that mods are not around.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:28 AM
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14. Hey, Tex ...
You have to keep the quoted material to four paragraphs, unless it's marked "PUBLIC DOMAIN" or from a Government source (usually a GOV domain).

Why is this? Lawsuits. Our "enemies" are looking for reasons to shut us down, and even a small copyright lawsuit can bankrupt DemocraticUnderground.

Thanks!

--bkl
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:45 AM
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16. 26% independent? Seems fishy to mua. Enjoy your *short* stay here
so called "Texasdem4life" :hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 11:49 AM
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18. Poor "TexasDem4life" has joined the choir celestial.........
Poor, poor thing.

Don't think he can hear us now. He's out of his misery.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:07 PM
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19. *yawn*
By all means, let's let a few skewed partisan polls elect the next president. This isn't important, people. What IS important is to keep your noses to the grind stone and don't let yourselves be distracted.

My wife and I attended the KM Jazz Festival yesterday dressed in full Kerry gear. We met dozens of people who were voting for Kerry, but even so, had an unmistakably defeatist attitude. Because of the media, most were convinced that while they would never vote for *Liar, what they were 'hearing' is that they were the only ones who wouldn't. I heard the same thing over and over for most of the afternoon. "*Liar will win, but I won't vote for him. He's an 'insert expletive here'." Most of them considered the media as gospel and were convinced *Liar has it locked up. This is why 'information' that stinks as badly as this should not be taken seriously at all. Keep your eye on the prize and don't be distracted!
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Dem_Loyalist Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:17 PM
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20. I thought we were all
supposed to be on the same team here? We really need to all pull together to beat bush and co in nov.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:33 PM
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21. Why 22 percent independents?
I don't think there ARE that many independents in the electorate. And how do we know Time is being honest with us on who the independents are?

They could just be Frank Luntz undecideds.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:34 PM
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22. I've never been polled, nor met anyone in person who has been.
n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 12:45 PM
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23. Maybe they should take a new poll instead of using the one from last week
It looked fishy anyway.

Also in this forum:Rasmussen Daily Tracking 9/11 - Bush Bounce Gone - Bush 47 Kerry 46 thread started by ruggerson Saturday September 11 at 9:06 am.
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