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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:05 PM
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Rice Denies New Prisoner Claims
(AP) National security adviser Condoleezza Rice on Sunday denied assertions in a new book that she and other top Bush administration officials ignored warnings about the abuse of prisoners at the Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

New Yorker writer Seymour Hersh, discussing the book set for release Monday, said senior military and national security officials received warnings from subordinates in 2002 and 2003 about such mistreatment.

Hersh said Rice held meetings on the issue and it was brought to the attention of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld before it "disappeared."

Rice said that in the fall of 2002, the White House "was made aware that there were some concerns that people might have been held at Guantanamo who didn't meet the definition of unlawful combatant.
more....
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/12/politics/main642835.shtml
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:08 PM
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1. Gosh, who do I believe ...... Condi, the "mushroom cloud" woman...
or Pulitzer Prize winner Sy Hersh.....gee, such a tough decision....NOT!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:11 PM
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2. right there with ya
I'm torn. Let's see, who has more cred as a truthteller, the esteemed Dr. chicken fried rice or Sy Hersh?......
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:16 PM
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4. Just asked CBS News
that question.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:33 PM
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6. Yeah, Condi "we would have done anything to stop them" Rice
"If only we had known....." what the president's daily briefing memo said a month before 9/11/2001.

Condi Rice = Liar
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:11 PM
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3. Sounds like she heard what she wanted to hear/ be told
No accountability either on the side of the teller or the listener. Sickening.

What happened to responsibility.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 05:29 PM
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5. I heard Seymour Hersh say
on MTP that members of Condi's staff met with that person who went to GITMO to have a look. Then she met with Rummy and turned everything over to him. Then Rummy turned the matter over to an underling and the matter was never heard from again.

I then heard Condi with Wolf Blitzer say that she didn't "recollect" talking with the guy about the prison, and that everything else they talked about was referred to the Pentagon. So, as far as I am concerned they all KNEW.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 06:33 PM
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7. tThe more they spin and deny, the more stupid they look
I mean come on, there comes a point when people will wonder if any of them have a clue at all or are they all incompetant idiots.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 06:43 PM
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8. Deposition language: "I do not recall ..."
"I do not recall being told of anything concerning prisoner abuse."

Yup.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 03:26 AM
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17. But ofcourse...then its not perjury or technically a lie....
....I didn't lie, I just couldn't "recall"....

:eyes:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 06:56 PM
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9. Time tested * Admin rule: if they deny it, it's the truth.
Sunday: Deny it. Gets published on the front page.

Wednesday: Say it might have happened. Story, page A-19.

Friday: Have a bench-warmer tacitly admit it. Story, Internet blogs.

Saturday: Next!

I've seen this horseshit for three and a half years now. Here's the one thing you can count on: they start with the diametric opposite of the truth. So if Condi is flat-out denying it, the track record predicts that she had everything to do with it.

And nobody gives a shit.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 08:39 PM
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10. CantITellYouSome Lies? kick
:kick:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 08:48 PM
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11. The most famous "don't recall" record?
Raygun. 134x Well now we know why.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 08:51 PM
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12. "What's your name?"
"I don't recall."
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 08:54 PM
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13. Seriously?
I was sure that she was going to just admit it. ;-)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 08:56 PM
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14. Bush team knew of abuse
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 09:01 PM
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15. She Lies Like A Rug, Sir
Of course these people knew that what they ordered done was being done....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 02:15 AM
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16. kick
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 06:07 AM
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18. Now here's a women I love to hate - Particularly in knowing that
she flosses with Mike Tyson's jump rope.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:24 AM
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19. Give the book some buzz, ask media to interview
"Chain of Command: The Road From 9/11 to Abu Ghraib," by Seymour Hersh
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:40 AM
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20. For a national security advisor ...
she sure is a know-nothing bitch. Rice isn't qualified to be national security advisor of a deserted island in the Pacific, let alone the USA.
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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:26 AM
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21. Condii
When is the last time she took responsibility for anything (except babysitting Bush)?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:34 AM
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22. Rice who?
:shrug:
rocknation
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