Semiautomatic Assault Weapon Update

[DoNotRefill]

"Semiautomatic Assault Weapon Update
By statute, the prohibitions relating to semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices expired on September 13, 2004. As a result, certain sections of the Gun Control Act, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, and its implementing regulations, 27 CFR Part 478, are no longer in effect."

http://www.atf.gov

It is done.

[7th_Sephiroth]

1. so tell me, whats legal and whats not?

[DoNotRefill]

3. Everything that was legal yesterday...

except that you can have a bayonet lug on it. Oh, and you can stop calling your "muzzle break" a "muzzle break" and start calling it a "flash supressor" again.

Oh, and you can buy new manufacture high cap mags again. There were plenty around, but they got WAY pricy.

BTW, I made an Assault Weapon tonight. Here's a pic. I'll prolly convert it back tomorrow, though.

[7th_Sephiroth]

4. so i can put a 15 round mag on my DE.50AE7

and get a silencer barrel attachment and silencer?

[DoNotRefill]

6. you can buy a new made high cap mag...

a "silencer barrel attachment" was never regulated under the AW ban unless the pistol is over 50 ounces (I don't think the DE was), and silencers were never affected by the AW ban, are still NFA weapons, which are very difficult to get.

So, the only thing different now than yesterday is you can get a high cap magazine a lot cheaper.

[7th_Sephiroth]

7. i'm not sure of the DE weight, but

i think it is over 50 ounces (its a large handgun)

[DoNotRefill]

9. dang, dude...

what's the point of having a handgun THAT big? Why not just buy a carbine? It'd be a lot more accurate, and would weigh about the same.

[7th_Sephiroth]

11. the DE. is exellent for target shooting

http://www.magnumresearch.com you ever see the matrix? that huge ass gun the agents carried, thats a DE

[DoNotRefill]

14. I know exactly what it is.

I just think it's kind of silly. It's not like it's particularly concealable or light. For the weight, you could have a light carbine that'd be a lot more accurate, simply because it has a shoulder stock on it.

I'd rather have a M1 carbine in a fight (or just for target shooting) than a desert eagle. Of course, I don't "pose" with guns.

[7th_Sephiroth]

15. neither do i

i do have a consealed permit for it (and i'm big enough so its not hard) i can draw it and fire in 2.4 seconds

[DoNotRefill]

16. Man...

I carry either a CZ-75 or a Glock 19, and when going all day long, even those can get heavy.

did you measure how long it'd take you to draw it? When I take mine off at the end of the day, it takes less than a second. Since I "point shoot" for extremely close range, that's about how long it'd take me to fire.

[7th_Sephiroth]

17. if it were lighter

i could draw it and fire in under a second, i am extremely fast

[DBoon]

24. What a waste of a good kitchen knife

I'm sorry but your "bayonet" should be chopping onions.

Mmm onions ... homemade chili ... food .. (never post while hungry)

[DoNotRefill]

25. Don't worry....

It's back in the butcher block, no worse for wear. If you look closely at the pic, you'll see that I even wrapped a paper towel around the handle before taping it in place, so that S.W.M.B.O. wouldn't get mad at the handle being all sticky with tape residue.

[struggle4progress]

30. from ATF today:

U.S. Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Washington, DC 20226

CHANGES IN FEDERAL LAW AS OF SEPTEMBER 13, 2004 RELATING TO SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS (SAWs) AND LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES (LCAFDs)

GENERAL

As of September 13, 2004, the provisions of Public Law 103-322, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, covering semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices are no longer in effect. The regulations implementing these provisions also are no longer in effect.

Specifically, there is no longer a Federal prohibition on the manufacture, transfer, and possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

There are no longer any marking requirements for semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. Existing markings on firearms and magazines relating to law enforcement or government use may be disregarded.

There is no longer any Federal requirement for Federal firearms licensees to obtain certain documentation before transferring semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices to government agencies or law enforcement officers. However, any records obtained prior to September 13, 1994, pertaining to the sale or transfer of semiautomatic assault weapons must still be retained for a period of 5 years. See 27 CFR § 478.129(f). Moreover, records of importation and manufacture must be maintained permanently and licensees must maintain all other acquisition and disposition records for 20 years.

Licensees who provided letters of future intent to sell semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices to law enforcement agencies and other qualified customers are no longer obligated to comply with such letters.

Anyone who illegally possessed, manufactured, or transferred semiautomatic assault weapons or large capacity ammunition feeding devices before the bans sunset still have violated the law since their possession, manufacture, or transfer was illegal at the time.

IMPORTATION

The prohibition on the importation of non-sporting firearms under 18 U.S.C. section 922(l) and 925(d)(3) still applies.

Importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices still is covered under the Arms Export Control Act. Therefore an approved permit still is required to import large capacity magazines.

Temporary importation of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity magazines is now lawful under the provisions of 27 CFR § 478.115(d) because temporary importations are not subject to the sporting purpose test.

Any importer who has a valid approved Form 6 import permit with a restriction related to the assault weapon ban should comply with the restriction because the weapons most likely are non-sporting.

Any importer who has a valid approved Form 6 import permit with a restriction related to large capacity ammunition feeding devices may disregard the restriction. Importers may apply for a new permit if they prefer.

ASSEMBLY OF NON-SPORTING SHOTGUNS AND SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES FROM IMPORTED PARTS

The prohibition on assembly of non-sporting shotguns and semiautomatic rifles from imported parts as provided under 18 U.S.C. § 922(r) and 27 CFR § 478.39 still applies.

LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS

Law enforcement officers and police departments who obtained semiautomatic assault weapons are no longer required to use such firearms only for official use.

Law enforcement officers and police departments may now sell or transfer semiautomatic assault weapons to persons who are not prohibited from receiving firearms.

Law enforcement officers and police departments may now sell or transfer large capacity ammunition feeding devices to anybody.

Signed statements that semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices will be used for official use are no longer required to be provided to Federal firearms licensees.

RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS

Federal law does not prohibit retiring law enforcement officers from keeping semiautomatic assault weapons or large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

Former law enforcement officers who received semiautomatic assault weapons on retirement may now transfer those firearms to persons who are not prohibited from receiving firearms. Transfer of large capacity ammunition feeding devices is no longer restricted.

NATIONAL FIREARMS ACT

All provisions of the National Firearms Act relating to registration and transfer of machineguns, short barreled rifles, weapons made from rifles, short barreled shotguns, weapons made from shotguns, any other weapons as defined in Title 26 U.S.C. section 5845(e), silencers, and destructive devices still apply.

Registered silencers can now be attached to semiautomatic rifles and pistols without creating a prohibited semiautomatic assault weapon.

USAS-12 and Striker12/Streetsweeper shotguns are still classified as destructive devices under ATF Rulings 94-1 and 94-2 and must be possessed and transferred in accordance with the NFA.

EFFECT ON STATE LAW

Expiration of the Federal law will not change any provisions of State law or local ordinances. Questions concerning State assault weapons restrictions should be referred to State and local authorities.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/saw-factsheet.htm

[Maple]

2. Adding to the current madness....

[DoNotRefill]

5. We've been promised that blood will run in the streets because of this...

still waiting...

Will somebody let me know when it starts?

[Maple]

8. It never ended

Have you seen your stats?

Blood already runs in your streets.

[DoNotRefill]

10. So....

no MORE blood is going to run in the streets tonight than did last night?

[Maple]

12. Oh yeah, lots more

it's part of American culture after all. Yeeeehaw!

[DoNotRefill]

13. ya really think so?

You think we'll see more shootings because the AW ban sunsetted? How do you figure? After all, the only real thing the AW ban did was ban bayonet lugs, and we've never really had a problem with random drive-by bayonetings here.

[biftonnorton]

22. I Like Our American Culture

Show me a culture that's perfect in every way. In the meantime, enjoy the good things that our culture has brought to the world and try not to let the bad harsh your mellow. We don't have a corner on the improving your life market, but Americans have invented quite snazzy stuff that has made the world a better place. Sure, after we invent something like TV, or after we perfect the first practical telephone, we do admittedly like to shout, "Yeeeehaw!" and then we often fire our 1911-A1s (invented by John Moses Browning, raht here in 'Murica) while we celebrate yet another triumph of Yankee ingenuity. We're throwing a party here, and unless you're a religiofreak who wants to beat women and make them wear head-to-toe coverings while keeping them a virtual prisoner in their homes and want kill anyone who won't pray to your vision of big G god, you're invited. Try not to trash the place, and give props to the host.

Edited for pride and optimism.

[struggle4progress]

26. Some stats:

Firearm-related crime has plummeted since 1993.


Nonfatal firearm crime rates have declined since 1994, reaching the lowest level ever recorded in 2002 and 2003.


After 1994, the proportion of nonfatal violent incidents involving a firearm declined.


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm

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[TahitiNut]

28. "there are tons of ... studies" ?

Manure and dirt are measured by the ton.

So is the output of the Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, the NRA, and a host of pseudo-authoritative propaganda mills.

:eyes:

[DoNotRefill]

31. tahiti....

even some anti-gun groups (like the VPC) say that the AW band didn't do squat to prevent crime. Why? Because the law was shit. All that happened was prices rose on "pre-ban" guns and magazines, and the gun manufacturers removed the "evil" items from the guns and sold them as "post-ban". A "post ban" ar-15 has exactly the same rate of fire, magazine capacity, and power as a "pre-ban" AR-15. It just can't have a knife put on the end of it.

[struggle4progress]

29. If you have evidence that Bush's DOJ is falsifying stats, I'm sure ...

... many people would be very interested. On the other hand, if you can't support the claim the statistics are fake or false or otherwise bogus, then perhaps you shouldn't make the claim.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

18. I'll bet it would be reinstated really quickly,

if all Democrats everywhere went out and bought one, being as vocal as possible about their political affiliation.

[DoNotRefill]

19. you mean....

you already haven't???

After 2000, a LOT of Democrats started buying guns.

[DoNotRefill]

20. For those who want to see exactly what changed, here it is:

Mods: I posted the entirety of it, because it's a publicly released government document and should not be subject to copyright restrictions.



September 13, 2004

OPEN LETTER TO FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARMS IMPORTERS
AND REGISTERED IMPORTERS OF U.S. MUNITIONS IMPORT LIST
ARTICLES

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) is committed to keeping industry members informed of statutory and regulatory developments affecting them. In furtherance of this commitment, we have prepared this open letter, which contains information about recent changes that may affect your day-to-day operations and/or long range plans.

Sunset of Bans on Semiautomatic Assault Weapons and Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices

On September 13, 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, Public Law 103-322. Title IX, Subtitle A, Section 110105 of this Act generally made it unlawful to manufacture, transfer, and possess semiautomatic assault weapons (SAWs) and to transfer and possess large capacity ammunition feeding devices (LCAFDs). The law also required importers and manufacturers to place certain markings on SAWs and LCAFDs, designating they were for export or law enforcement/government use. Significantly, the law provided that it would expire 10 years from the date of enactment. Accordingly, effective 12:01 a.m. on September 13, 2004, the provisions of the law will cease to apply. This open letter is to advise the import community of the effect of this on importations.

Importation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons

* There is no longer a Federal prohibition on the manufacture, transfer and possession of SAWs.

* Nonsporting firearms are still prohibited from importation under 18 U.S.C. sections 922(l) and 925(d)(3). Because the vast majority of SAWs are nonsporting, they generally cannot be imported.

* SAWs no longer have to be marked “restricted law enforcement/government use only” or “export only.” However, if an importer has an approved Form 6 import permit for SAWs with a restriction stamp on it related to the ban, the importer should comply with the restriction because the firearms most likely are nonsporting.

* SAWs may be imported into a Customs Bonded Warehouse or Foreign Trade Zone because the sporting purposes test does not apply to these imports.

* SAWs may be temporarily imported under the provisions of 27 CFR section 478.115(d) because firearms that are temporarily imported are not required to meet the sporting purposes test.

Importation of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices

* LCAFDs are no longer prohibited from importation. However, they are still subject to the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act. Therefore an approved Form 6 import permit is still required.

* LCAFDs will no longer have to be marked “restricted law enforcement/government use only” or “export only” and importers no longer have to collect documentation that demonstrates imports are for government sale. However, any existing records still must be maintained for a period of 5 years. See 27 CFR section 478.40a. Moreover, importers are still required to maintain their acquisition records permanently and disposition records for 20 years.

* If an importer has an approved Form 6 import permit for LCAFDs with a restriction stamp on it related to the ban, the importer may import LCAFDs using the permit and disregard the restriction stamp. However, importers may apply for a new permit if they prefer.

Please note:

* The provisions of 18 U.S.C. section 922(r) and 27 CFR 478.39 regarding assembly of nonsporting shotguns and semiautomatic rifles from imported parts still apply.

* All provisions of the National Firearms Act (NFA) relating to registration and transfer of machineguns, short barreled rifles, weapons made from rifles, short barreled shotguns, weapons made from shotguns, any other weapons as defined in 26 USC section 5845(e), silencers, and destructive devices still apply.

* USAS-12 and Striker 12/Streetsweeper shotguns are still classified as destructive devices under ATF Rulings 94-1 and 94-2 and must be possessed and transferred in accordance with the NFA.

We recognize that you may have ATF correspondence and publications that contain obsolete information. For example, a July 30, 2002 open letter discussed the importation of pre-September 13, 1994 large capacity magazines. This section of the open letter no longer must be complied with. Similarly, the ATF Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide and the ATF Guidebook: Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunitions & Implements of War contain some information that now is incorrect. We will update these publications as soon as possible. Moreover, we will provide up-to-date information on our website: www.atf.gov.

Maintaining open lines of communication is vital to the successful future of ATF’s partnership with the import community. The Firearms and Explosives Imports Branch is available to answer your questions about the issues addressed in this letter. You may reach us by phone at 202-927-8320 or by fax at 202-927-2697.




for Audrey Stucko,
Chief, Firearms and Explosives
Services Division


http://www.atf.gov/firearms/091304openletter.htm

[whiteroses]

21. Narberth, PA-Monday, Sept. 13th, Candlelight Vigil-Federal Weapons Ban

September 12, 2004



Join Senator Williams in Support of the Federal Weapons Ban


Havertown, Sept. 12 -- At 12:01 Tuesday morning, the federal ban on the sale of assault weapons will expire, reopening the doors to the sale of these semiautomatic weapons designed for military use, in communities around the state and across the country. State Sen. Connie Williams and others from Montgomery County will come together at 8 p.m. Monday, September 13th at the park next to the Narberth Borough Hall, 100 Conway Ave., Narberth, to hold a vigil in support of a renewed federal ban on assault weapons.

Due to the inactivity on Capitol Hill, Williams has introduced legislation (S.B. 1216) that would extend a state-level ban on the possession, purchase, sale or otherwise transfer of assault weapons, or assault weapon conversion kits to non-military in Pennsylvania.

You are invited to join Williams, Gov. Ed Rendell and Congressman Joe Hoeffel tomorrow night, beginning at 8 p.m.

"Together we will show the country that we are united in making our world a safer place," Williams said.




Friends of Connie Williams
PO Box 21, Haverford, PA 19041
610.896.3167
[e-mail]



Don’t forget to visit www.conniewilliams.com for the latest, up-to-date information!

Paid for by Friends of Connie Williams

[Jack_DeLeon]

23. the article is wrong...

the semiautomatic weapons that were affected by the AWB were not designed for military use, they were designed for civillian and law enforcement used and based off the military counterpart.