(new) MARINE KILLED IN ACTION # 1030

[saigon68]

September 17, 2004
Release Number: 04-09-19C


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/Casualty_Report.asp?CasualtyReport=20040919.txt

MARINE KILLED IN ACTION

CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq – A Marine assigned to I Marine Expeditionary Force was killed in action Sept. 17 while conducting security and stability operations in the Al Anbar Province of Iraq.

Due to force protection consideration, additional details concerning the incident will not be made available.

The names of the deceased are being withheld pending next of kin notification

Confirmed by I Casualties as # 1030 http://icasualties.org/oif/

[leftchick]

1. This month may end up being worse than April for Dead Soldiers!

Good God this is terrible! Average of 3.11 soldiers A DAY!

:(

Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
9-2004 52 1 3 56 3.11 18
8-2004 66 4 5 75 2.42 31
7-2004 54 1 3 58 1.87 31
6-2004 42 1 7 50 1.67 30
5-2004 80 0 4 84 2.71 31
4-2004 135 0 5 140 4.67 30
3-2004 52 0 0 52 1.68 31
2-2004 20 1 2 23 0.79 29
1-2004 47 5 0 52 1.68 31
12-2003 40 0 8 48 1.55 31
11-2003 82 1 27 110 3.67 30
10-2003 43 1 2 46 1.48 31
9-2003 30 1 1 32 1.07 30
8-2003 35 6 2 43 1.39 31
7-2003 47 1 0 48 1.55 31
6-2003 30 6 0 36 1.2 30
5-2003 37 4 0 41 1.32 31
4-2003 73 6 0 79 2.63 30
3-2003 65 27 0 92 7.67 12
Total 1030 66 69 1165 2.12 549

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
View Fatality Names and Details Fatality Metrics
Casualties Trends Since Fall of Baghdad U.S. Fatalities By Month
U.S. Fatalities with DOD Links U.S. Fatalities By State
U.S. Fatalities City Map Hostile/NonHostile Timeline
U.S. Fatalities State Map

Missing or Captured: 1

[VolcanoJen]

21. If the pace slowed, and only 2 soldiers were killed per day...

... from now until the end of the month, we'll end up with 76 dead on September 30. And that's only if the pace slows from 3.11 soldiers killed per day to 2 soldiers.

I am so fucking mad, leftchick, because another storm will probably come by the end of the month, and instead of talking about the horrors of our illegal, failed boondoggle experiment in Iraq, we'll get wall-to-wall coverage of wind-battered idiot reporters in designer raincoats.

:grr: :mad: :grr:

[saigon68]

22. Or Jen-- more on the King of Pop and his adoring fans

Wall to wall on him yesterday, and his cult following

[VolcanoJen]

23. I just don't recognize the world around me anymore.

Ever since the phony "handover" of "sovereignty" from Viceroy Bremer to "Prime Minister" Allawi, the killing of US soldiers has escalated steadily. In the world I used to know, that would be news. Big news.

But we don't talk about Iraq anymore, because I guess it's just not our fucking problem anymore. They're SOVEREIGN!! They can kill as many soldiers as they want, right?

Last night on Bill Maher, I heard him quote Secretary of War Rumsfeld, who said "Eventually the Iraqis will just get tired of being killed." What a brilliant plan!! Send that masterpiece upstairs to your chickenhawk bosses, Rummy, and get back to work on the Iran invasion, wouldja?

Anyone care to wager how many soldiers will die before we realize that we fucked up so completely and pull those poor kids out of there? I hope the war-mongering crowd will greet each of them at the airport with a purple heart band-aid.

We've created a new generation of lives shattered by incompetence and broken promises. I'm sick with grief about it. I used to be optimistic, and thought we learned these lessons. There's this monument on the National Mall with 57,000+ names inscribed on it; it's rather sobering, and contains a serious lesson. I wonder if that President, that idiot son of an asshole, has ever visited it.

How much more of this can we take before the half of the country that actually gives a shit explodes in violence and anger?

ON EDIT: Oh, and looking at leftchick's list, I see that we still have one soldier listed as missing. Keith Matthew Maupin. Does anyone remember him, care about him, wonder about him... anyone besides his family, whose lives remain in a macabre limbo? No, I didn't think so. :-(

[saigon68]

27. I remember Keith Matthew Maupin

The first P.O.W./ M.I.A. of this round of the NEOCON and THE BUSH CRIMINALS War to exteminate ISLAM.

2004 National POW/MIA Recognition Day
September 14, 2004




Its doubtful the Phony Veterans here yesterday bragging about beating up the anti-war protesters in the early 1970's--- could care less about him.

[VolcanoJen]

30. I am glad you remember him, because CNN is talking about...

... the Scott Peterson trial right now.

[MacDo]

31. Wrong

Keith is from my home state, and not a day goes by without a prayer for one of our missing.

[VolcanoJen]

33. He's from my home town, MacDo.

And I certainly wasn't indicting DUers with my statement. It was aimed at the mass media, and the majority of Americans, who would be hard-pressed to name the lone Iraq War POW/MIA.

The only reason I still hold out some hope are DUers who doggedly pursue the Iraq issue, while the media reports on thunderstorms and celebrity trials.


Keith Matthew Maupin, Missing since April 9th, 2004

[leftchick]

34. You know as well as I Jen.....

That if not the weather there will be some other distraction. Heaven forbid the AmeriKans get a clue from their TVs that our soldiers are fucking DYING DAILY for a fucked up war started by a loser of a fraud*. The media will tow the WH line and lies right through the election and then some.

It is mind boggling when I look through the yahoo Iraq photos daily and look at the carnage that is Iraq. The dead babies and mothers and fathers. The dead and wounded soldiers. AmeriKans have no clue this is the second worst month and probably will end up being the WORST since this illegal war began.

Thanks for letting me vent sister. Thank God for my DU pals or I would be insane!

peace,
lc
:)

[VolcanoJen]

36. Where are the WMDs? Where was the imminent threat?

What are we fighting for now? Why are our soldiers continuing to die? Where are the flowers and rose petals, thrown at the liberators by the grateful Iraqis? Why does the president insist "Freedom is on the march!"? Why is Armitage so fucking delusional? Does everyone in Washington wear designer rose-colored glasses? Why is Rumsfeld still gainfully employed? Condi? Powell? Wolfowitz?

What is the rationale for continuing to fight in Iraq? Where is the exit plan? How much will it cost? How many more troops will be deployed? What is the goal, exactly? Why isn't the press UP BUSH'S ASS every single fucking day asking these questions???

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY COUNTRY, and why aren't we talking about these issues as part of our national conversation? Why is it that everyone I run into insists things have "quieted down" in Iraq when the TRUTH is so OBVIOUS and CONTRARY to everything we are being told by our "leaders"? Is there ANYTHING more important than the situation on the ground in Iraq? Why doesn't CNN send Anderson Cooper and his fucking raincoat over to Iraq as a "glorious embed" to tell us WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

leftchick, if it weren't for DU, I'd be right next to you in, in five-point restraints. :grr: :mad: :grr: I love ya, sister. :loveya:

[leftchick]

39. This is Priceless Jen.....

"Why isn't the press UP BUSH'S ASS every single fucking day asking these questions???"

May I submit this to CNN?

Love ya back sista! :loveya:

[VolcanoJen]

42. Yes, and be sure to include my Anderson Cooper suggestion.

Where are the embeds now that there's an actual WAR going on, anyway?

:grr:

[Free2BMe]

2. ....and more reserves headed to Iraq.....

the number of casualties mounts and with it the news that more reservists are headed to Iraq...not after the election...now..In this AM's Rochester, NY Democrat and Chronicle newspaper(front page headline)...and on the local stations it is reported that the 98th Division of the Army Reserve unit is headed to Irag for probably a year. This unit has not been deployed overseas since WWII according to TV news. Also, two more reserve units will head out in Oct...total 700..this area alone.....and so it goes...

[saigon68]

3. I love it how the Recruiters sign up the unwary

With promises they can go kill RAG HEADS

Too bad they don't show THEM releases like this ONE

Not only will you be killed --but no one will know how it happened or remember you in any way

You will be killed and buried for Halliburton Corporation profits

USED UP-- KILLED --- THROWN AWAY

[VolcanoJen]

25. And still no coverage of flag-draped coffins.

Wouldn't want to upset anyone, you know.

If you are a dead soldier from a free country, you are honored upon your return; although I'm certain it provides cold comfort, at least you receive the thanks of a grateful nation.

[saigon68]

28. "Eventually the Iraqis will just get tired of being killed." RumDumb

A nice way to explain how the War will be won--- somehow since they live there and its Their Country-- I doubt this will happen.

After a couple trillion $$$$$$ and tens of thousands of AMERIKAN lives (including the draftees) and blood in the streets of america

The US will quit when the helicopters take the last of the embassy staff from the roof.



IT WILL LOOK THIS WAY

[VolcanoJen]

29. Exactly exactly exactly

Saigon, before we invaded Iraq, did you ever see this "Vietnam 2 Preflight Check"? Back then, I thought it was dead-on. Today, I think it was slightly optimistic. Still worth a look:

VIETNAM 2 PREFLIGHT CHECK

1. Cabal of oldsters who won't listen to outside advice? Check.

2. No understanding of ethnicities of the many locals? Check.

3. Imposing country boundaries drawn in Europe, not by the locals? Check.
4. Unshakeable faith in our superior technology? Check.

5. France secretly hoping we fall on our asses? Check.

6. Russia secretly hoping we fall on our asses? Check.

7. China secretly hoping we fall on our asses? Check.

8. SecDef pushing a conflict the JCS never wanted? Check.

9. Fear we'll look bad if we back down now? Check.

10. Corrupt Texan in the WH? Check.

11. Land war in Asia? Check.

12. Right unhappy with outcome of previous war? Check.

13. Enemy easily moves in/out of neighboring countries? Check.

14. Soldiers about to be dosed with *our own* chemicals? Check.

15. Friendly fire problem ignored instead of solved? Check.

16. Anti-Americanism up sharply in Europe? Check.

17. B-52 bombers? Check.

18. Helicopters that clog up on the local dust? Check.

19. In-fighting among the branches of the military? Check.

20. Locals that cheer us by day, hate us by night? Check.

21. Local experts ignored? Check.

22. Local politicians ignored? Check.

23. Locals used to conflicts lasting longer than the USA has been a country? Check.

24. Against advice, Prez won't raise taxes to pay for war? Check.

25. Blue water navy ships operating in brown water? Check.

26. Use of nukes hinted at if things don't go our way? Check.

27. Unpopular war? Check.

VIETNAM 2 YOU ARE CLEARED TO TAXI

[saigon68]

32. Your Post above "PRECIOUS" & "PRICELESS"

Book marking this thread.

Remember Jen in March 1993 a number of US here were trashed for suggesting some of these things-- we were called unpatriotic.

And my favorite "TROOP HATERS" that's the one that burned my ass the most

Well you idiots (if any of you are still here----

QUESTION----- who is the TROOP HATER NOW ???

ANSWER----- THE COWARDLY AWOL CHIMPANZEE THAT'S WHO.

[Eloriel]

75. Oh, God. Remember when we watched that on TV?

I remember, so stunned, so aghast, horrified, heartbroken. All those deaths, all that suffering, the enormous costs (of all kinds). I was a Vietnam wife. My husband came home in March 1969, but as I watched that scene unfold a BIG part of my gut response was: what the hell was it all for, anyway? What I went through, what we all went through, comes to THIS?

Many, many years later my 2nd husband became friends with a young Vietnamese man through business here in the states. We were at dinner one night and got to talking a little about how he got here. He said he and some of his university student friends had known they needed to leave, and they left everything behind (after paying a pretty fee) to escape via boat. He said they knew that the French, the Canadians and Americans were picking up refugees off the various boats. Naively (even now it brings me to tears to remember just HOW naive I was), I asked him: "What made you decide to come to the United States?" He said, simply, "They were the ones who picked us up." Imagine being in that situation. Imagine coming here with nothing -- no money, no family, no friends here. Happily, by the mid-80s was a successful businessman, a good man and a good friend.

[VolcanoJen]

78. Thank you for that story, and perspective, Eloriel.

I was born during the Vietnam era, but I'm too young to fully appreciate everything that was going on at the time.

I learn through you, Saigon68, and our other DUers who won't allow us to forget. Please continue to tell your stories. We are all ears, and believe that we have much to learn from each of you.

Thank you.

[leftchick]

4. holy crap! Do you know the other Reserve Unit Numbers?

My cousin just came back from Iraq. I hope it is not his. :(

[Free2BMe]

24. regarding units from WNY

It cited 500 from the 98th and the other 200 from units in Central and Western NY. Hope it is not your cousin!!!

[leftchick]

26. thanks for the information Free2BMe and welcome to DU!

I will have to call my mom to find out if he is going. God, I hope not. He got back in May after being there 14 months! He looked terrible and I worry for him. I know he can't take a second tour , he has had it and neither could my aunt and uncle.
:(

[MacDo]

38. Tell your cousin

welcome back. Glad he made it safely, but please tell me you didn't tell him this........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=833151&mesg_id=833862&page=

[saigon68]

43. WTF is that about

what does that have to do with this thread.

[leftchick]

44. He agrees with me. He knows this war is a fucking LIE.....

He is not a delusional bushbot freeper. He knows it is not about Iraq Freedom and Democracy. He KNOWS there is no Iraq/Saddam/9/11/Al-Q connection no matter how many times the RW loons say it. He knows it is not about "our freedoms" (how fucking stupid is that?) He is intelligent and knows when he is being lied to and taken advantage of.

And he saw people like this every day and fucking hated it.....




An Iraqi man carries a wounded boy in a hospital in Fallujah following a US air strike. The US military said it conducted a "successful precision strike" on a meeting of about 10 "terrorists" working for Jordanian-born militant Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi.(AFP/Fares Dlimi)

Now you know why he does not want to go back....

[VolcanoJen]

45. Oh, I'm so glad you said that.

I was tempted to say it for you, but I just knew you'd write a beauty response like that, leftchick.

Black is white, up is down, and the troops don't care about having their limbs blown off and watching innocent children die before their eyes for A MISTAKE. The only thing that matters to the troops is that we respect them when they come home, right? :eyes:

Wrong. We don't even respect them now. The media all but ignores them, we have yet to see flag-draped coffins unless the photos are smuggled out of Dover, and the president insists "Freedom is on the march!!"

God, I'm so sick of this crap, and especially the kind of self-righteous, self-serving preachiness that you were forced to respond to.

[MacDo]

46. Sad to say

The only bashing I've got since returning from Iraq is on this board. I want a new CINC just as bad as anyone. One that has been there and done that.

[saigon68]

47. No ones bashing you

You are just here to pick a fight with Leftchick-- what's your problem any way?

[leftchick]

48. Now why do I feel like the one getting "bashed"?

Who knows how these people think. Thanks saigon....

[MacDo]

50. How do I think?

In short, I registered on this board yesterday to talk with people who wanted a new President.(Same as me by the way) Call it fate or whatever, the first post I read is from LC and it calls everyone in the military a terrorist.
Now being a military man I log back in today and start reading the list of threads again, and the one you posted Saigon naturally caught my eye. Browsing through it I see LC has posted. Just curious as to what the person who labeled me a terrorist had to say, it was interesting to see she had a cousin returning as well. With that in mind, I knew the last thing he might want to hear is something to the effect of "Welcome home terrorist."

[saigon68]

51. Well, there are plenty of "Military Terrorists "

But I don't think you want to get in that discussion with me. She never called you a terrorist or anything else like that and you OWE her an apology.

[MacDo]

52. Not the way I see it.

She owes me and every other GI who is serving. Blame the CINC, not the troops.

[leftchick]

54. LOL!

...

[MacDo]

58. And if not me

your cousin sure does.

[Name removed]

64. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MacDo]

66. Get a life.

Got one thanks. Thanks for pointing out the free speech thing though. I seem to have forgotten about that. It was just being called a "terrorist" that was a little hard to take. I respect an individual's right to say what they want, but they must respect mine as well. I will not apologize if I took offense to someone's post.
Thank you for your service, even if you are offended by it. Oh, Gore would have been my president as well.

[DrWeird]

69. Funny how you forgot about that free speech thing.

You know, if you don't love America, you can always get the hell out.

[MacDo]

71. What the suppose to mean?

I admit I let the heat of the moment override one of my primary values, and your answer is "get the out". After you please.

[saigon68]

72. Enjoy your stay

((((((((((((((((((((ping))))))))))))))))))))))

[number6]

65. context

Dozens killed, wounded in US air strike (new overnight Fallujah massacre)


what is the difference between "precision bombings" and "terrorist car bombings"?

Both kill innocent bystanders

None! The US Military is one and the same as the
Terrorists they claim they are fighting.


from http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=833151

[leftchick]

68. been there done that.....

pointless waste of energy.

[saigon68]

73. You never called him anything

He just chose to read whatever into It


although I don't believe he came here to anything other than waste bandwidth.

[MacDo]

74. No it was more of a Stereotype

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=833151&mesg_id=833862&page=


But, now that a former Marine has pointed out I had forgotten about free speech, it's a dead issue with me. I apologize I may have infringed on someone's right of free speech, but I will not apologize for my anger about what was said.

[leftchick]

53. don't waste you time saigon....

I don't need no stinkin apology! I would not believe it anyway.

[MacDo]

56. Nor would I yours. nt

[coreystone]

16. Welcome to DU....

:)

I just don't know how our country can extend "democracy" throughout the world without eventually evoking the draft. The mission of our National Guard and Reserves is not to bolster the whimsically failed agendas of utilizing "police actions" as a substitute for the possible, non-exhausted, and bypassed diplomatic resolutions having been so absent from this administration

[Eloriel]

18. You ain't seen nothin' yet --

(Welcome to DU, btw, and thanks for that info)

rumor- call up in Nov to include activation of ROTC - students beware.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2367393#2367542

Bush secret plan for DRAFT! THis is not the Dem Protest bill, this is GOP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2367166

Kerry Accuses Bush of Hiding Troops Plan Until After Election
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=834753

[saigon68]

76. kicking

[Maeve]

5. Another death, another family left

And the beat goes on...

[teryang]

6. Over 5,000 serious casualties in Iraq

Over 1000 dead and almost 4000 seriously wounded among active duty Americans. Certain categories of casualties aren't even reported, like the psychologically traumatized, they don't exist. The situation is getting worse on a daily basis.

It's fairly evident that this administration is more concerned with its political future than what is happening in Iraq. The destruction of Iraq is an acceptable outcome from their point of view. If they don't literally destroy Iraq and the political power of its indigenous groups, the fourteen military bases the big defense contractors are building will be untenable.

Of course, defense contractors and their shareholders have no problem with the destruction of their output, as long as they get paid. Cash flow increases as they are contracted for the security, tear down, clean up, scuttling, rebuild, whatever, as long as they make money. Anybody in the military for any length of time is familiar with this syndrome. It's all very patriotic. See, I have a picture of a weapon system on my office wall. We're in the loop. Civilian slobs don't understand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. they don't pay the price, that is why they don.t understand

they only see the profit...

In the midst of writing a nvoel, and believe it or not dealing with this. Some fo the fictional corporations are worst than Halliburton

In the words of one of the characters, and I am paraphrasing

"When we loose a division the numbers game becomes now many new rifles and uniforms the Army will need, not how many troops were lost."

[seemslikeadream]

7. CEOs with Cayman Island offices demand US military protection

The following is a full text copy of
a letter sent by Mr Timothy Adam
Chief Executive, Cable & Wireless
(Cayman Islands) Ltd

Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Grand Cayman urgently needs military intervention to restore and to preserve law and order. This needs to happen TODAY.

No doubt US authorities are already aware of the widespread looting that has occurred. I have heard sporadic attempts at looting continue to occur. I got caught in traffic right beside a site where police had shot several times at a looter and had detained him, and there was a near riot - a very volatile situation to which police responded promptly with heavy assault weapon teams.

Last night there was a prison riot at HMP Northward in which a number of prisoners escaped. A prison guard was injured (I have heard it was not fatal) and a fire was started in the prison. ALL the island's law enforcement agencies had to be diverted to deal with this. The situation has been calmed down but it is still volatile, the police have had to go back there in force subsequent to the initial incident being calmed, and there now remains a serious weakness in the security force because a lot of the police and Special Constables are now diverted to handle the situation. Worse yet, there is a convicted rapist and a convicted murderer on the loose. Police have now been diverted from their already seriously stretched law and order duties to search for these dangerous criminals under difficult circumstances. The island's power supply has not been turned back on yet and even when it is, most of the electricity poles on the island have been broken, even huge concrete poles snapped, and there are NO streetlights ANYWHERE on the island. Police are operating in total darkness.

http://www.caymannetnews.com/2004/09/738/letter.shtml


Dear Mr Timothy Adam

Our children are busy

[saigon68]

9. Maybe Black Water can Quell the uprising

Just give then a few Million $$$$ and they'll send their $1,500.00 per day thugs to shoot a few of the looters



they have the experience and the blood lust to do it.

[leftchick]

11. very timely post saigon.....

check this out.... there is a new name for our fine hired guns in Iraq....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2367401

[saigon68]

12. Thanks LC--- U.S. VIP PROTECTION AGENTS!!!!!

What a quaint name for a Group of Thugs and Murderers.

As in once the Bomb goes off these hoodlums shoot at anything that moves and KILL IT



U.S. VIP protection agents look at a car carrying Iraqi security men that was destroyed when a roadside bomb exploded near a convoy in Baghdad, September 18, 2004. Three Iraqis were injured in the attack. REUTERS/Akram Saleh

[saigon68]

17. U. S. COLLABORATOR PROTECTION AGENTS = a better term

At $1,500.00 per day these mercenaries better save their cash--- I have a feeling that once Kerry wins the Gravy Train for them, will be over.

May be then we can use the money, to feed hungry children, rather than the egos and bank accounts of these Thugs and Hoodlums.

[leftchick]

49. wtf do those killers have strapped to their legs?

are they holsters? OOOOOoooo they be BAD!

[saigon68]

55. Yes they keep 3 guns on at all times

A M-16 A4 short carbine with a telescoping stock with at least a dozen 30 round magazines in a vest.

A 41 Cal or better Glock or some other semi auto pistol with AT LEAST 6 15 round mags strapped to their leg with some type of Bianchi web holster and extender.

and a concealed compact 45 cal auto ON THEIR ANKLE OR IN A HOLSTER ON THE INSIDE OF THE VEST OR WAIST.

They are real RAMBOS

[leftchick]

57. and they trot around in front of our soldiers....

with all of that shit on? Talk about rubbing your face in it.

[Dzimbowicz]

10. Hello fellow vet...

Please visit the website www.veteransforpeace.org we could use more people like you.

[saigon68]

13. Been doing it for a while now

Richard Nixon's coronation convention Miami Beach 1972

Ron Kovic in the chair at far right.

2 and 1/2 years later ---Nixon Out in disgrace

[leftchick]

14. Saigon, I think There are at Least 2 more dead here......

The military is refusing to comment so far... :(




Heavy smoke billows from a burned US Humvee on a bridge that leads to Baghdad's International Airport. A US convoy was hit by a roadside bomb in southern Baghdad.(AFP/Jewel Samad)

[saigon68]

15. Doesn't look good-- a lot of smoke and fire

The truth will trickle out bit by bit

At some time though one has to question Why anyone would join the military right NOW?

In my day there was the Draft which compelled people to participate-- although guys like Muhammad Ali stood up and refused, while others like THE AWOL CHIMPANZEE and CHICKEN HAWK CHENEY dodged the draft

[TacticalPeek]

19. Bummer.

A POEM THAT I WROTE IN A HIGH FEVER

You who are lengthening your lives
with the best doctors and the best medicines
remember those who are shortening their lives
with the wars
that you in your long lives are not
preventing.

You who are again screwing
the younger generations
and winking at each other
the winking of your eyelids
is like the chill of the swinging shutters
in an empty house.

- Yehuda Amichai

[0007]

20. ......and counting

The Casualties So Far
Number of dead 1030 during 548 days of war
Number of wounded soldiers nearing 6,500
Number of Iraqi dead 9,400 to 11,300 (estimated)
As of September 17, 2004

[catmandu57]

35. This is a fine welcome home

We just got home late last night, took a week off, I kept guessing the kia #'s, god was I off. I broke down and bought a usa today in Kanab Utah last monday, they told me it was 1005 then, this morning I find out it's 1030 and climbing, what a fucking world.

So now, it's time to roll up the sleeves and go getr these fucking bastards.

[saigon68]

37. There were several more vicious attacks today on US troops

The military as usual--- is saying nothing. Without a free press there --- and only a 1950's muzzled Russian type American Press, in Baghdad its hard to figure what is going on---

unless you want to know all about the developments in the Scott Peterson or weird Jackson cases today.

[catmandu57]

40. No thank you

Now, I see we add two more gold star families.

[saigon68]

41. Yes #'s 1031 and 1032

Well at least we care about them, even though we don't know their names

The masses, however, care more about Wacko Jacko

[Just Me]

59. *sigh*

Something is really amiss in our country. I know this to be true because,...national mourning of such loss of life is prohibited via mandatory scrubbing by our government.

I'm not sure which disturbs me most: the lives of those who had no choice but to give them or the indifference by those who chose their destinies.

[saigon68]

61. Its all about POWER AND $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Those that have both want to hold on to both.

Look at the BUSH CRIMINALS AND THE NEOCONS--- they are drunk on power and all are millionaires. They need a pacified majority of Sheep to ratify their ruling mandate.

And long as the Sheep have enough to eat and a Circus (Read NECKCAR) to watch once in a while,

They'll gladly let their neighbors kid get killed for Halliburton Profits.

[Blue Gardener]

60. Any way to find out how many of the 1030 have children?

Formulating a LTTE, and I would like to include this information if it is available.

[Zhade]

62. I see we have a Freeper in this thread.

The mods seem to be stumbling with regard to disruptors - a number of them are racking up a good number of posts on the boards.

I guess the disruptors are getting slightly clever. Amazing - I thought Freepers were too stupid to count to ten without taking off their shoes, yet they manage to fly under the radar sometimes.

Keep reaching, Freepers! You may grasp simple shapes and colors yet!

[saigon68]

63. The mods are just letting us have fun with it for a while

There were at least 3 of them here yesterday-- none got tombstoned

[VolcanoJen]

79. What????

;-)

[leftchick]

67. perhaps you could do an alert.....

mine seem to be being ignored for some reason. I am glad to see I am not the only one that recognizes a troll .....

[saigon68]

70. No they are just letting us have some fun

I saw this yesterday.

[VolcanoJen]

80. Huh??

;-)

[Conservativesux]

77. Move along....

now. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along before we send the paddywagons here !!!