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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:12 PM
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Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart Threatens To Kill Gays
Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart Threatens To Kill Gays

(Toronto, Ontario) A Canadian television station has apologized publicly to viewers for a telecast of American evangelist Jimmy Swggart's television program in which he threatened to kill gays.

The program, aired last week on Omni 1, a Toronto multicultural station, and throughout the US, has also prompted an investigation by the Canadian Radio Television Commission, the government agency which regulates television.

During the program, a rambling sermon by Swaggart who is trying to rehabilitate himself after an arrest for soliciting a prostitute, the televangelist turned to the subject of gay marriage.

more...

Evangelist Jimmy Swaggart Threatens To Kill Gays
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:16 PM
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1. Scum thy name is Swaggart.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:47 PM
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12. Pious, reichous, sanctimonious, hypocritical scum at that
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:23 AM
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51. Swagart deserves to be fucked in the ass
until he bleeds to death.
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:58 PM
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52. Just send him to Abu Ghraib
There's plenty of chemical lights to go around! That is, if the Army doesn't use them all up on innocent Iraqi civilians first.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:23 PM
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2. kick
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:56 PM
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47. Besides religion, what force in 'Murrican life gives rise to such bigotry?
Is there another vessel for hatred as deep and convenient as religion?
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He loved Big Brother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:39 AM
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50. Answer:
People who are secretly gay and simultaneously homophobic and take their self-loathing out on those with the gumption to come out of the damn stuffy dark closet as well as those of us who are not narrow-minded?
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:23 PM
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3. And yet nothing will happen to him
Falwell publicly told all his sheep to go down to Disneyworld and pick off a few queers. Amazingly, he didn't go to prison either.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:24 PM
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4. Swaggart will be the first
in hell to greet all ye sinners!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:31 PM
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5. Yep, just another cheap religious hypocrite.
Hey, Jimmy! As it's often said in church, he who lives by the sword (metaphorically in your case), dies by the sword.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:31 PM
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6. jimmy, there ain't a queer alive that wants anything-- and I do mean...
anything-- to do with your nasty ol' ass anyway!!!

Let's revisit jimmy, in all his glory:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/jimmy-swaggart/

By the mid-80s, Jimmy Swaggart had become the world's richest and most famous hypocritical shitbag. His operation raked in more than $150 million annually. Every week, his television program "The Jimmy Swaggart Telecast" attracted eight million Jesus freaks. He had clawed his way to the peak of the televangelism racket, and now he had nothing to do.

So Swaggart turned to schadenfreude for his primary source of pleasure. He took great joy in 1986 for defrocking fellow Assemblies of God minister Marvin Gorman. Gorman had conducted an extramarital affair with one of his parishioners. And then the next year, when the PTL Ministry collapsed in around Jim Bakker, Swaggart was ecstatic. It was almost too good to believe. He went on CNN and told Larry King that Bakker was a "cancer in the body of Christ."

<SNIP>

Finally, during a preaching tour of California, Swaggart drove his white Jaguar into the town of Indio. There he propositioned 31-year-old Rosemary Garcia, who promptly got in the car. Then they were pulled over by the cops for driving on the wrong side of the road.

Garcia told a Palm Springs TV news crew that Swaggart had picked her up, then inquired where they could find a motel with in-room porn. When the reporter asked why Swaggart had approached her, Garcia said: "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prostitute."

<SNIP>

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/televangelists/jimmy-swaggart/


my fave: "He asked me for sex. I mean, that's why he stopped me. That's what I do. I'm a prostitute."

you cannot make this shit up.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:36 PM
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9. Ah, but does anyone remember the sweet number he did on the LA prostitute?
For some reason she showed him a picture of her daughter and scumbag immediately inquired if they ever worked together.

And HE wants to kill sinners!!

Hey, Jimmy, do the right thing. (And get started now, cause there's a three-day waiting period getting the central piece of the necessary equipment.)
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:11 PM
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31. With loud voices for fundies like this, who can wonder why so
many accept xtianity as a farce and a con?
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:33 PM
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7. Jimmy hates gays
But he sure loves hookers!
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:34 PM
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8. Bravo Canadians!
Looks like THEY are able to differentiate between free speech/art--and the promotion of HATE CRIMES (and/or inciteful language)

I hope they slam Swaggart good.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:39 PM
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10. this is what will come out of the hate admendments being written
into law in states like lousiana, virginia, florida, and the usa constitution.....this is the building of hate crimes against gays, and liberals, and others...

this is why it is important not to write discrimination into law or into a constitution....

the WWII wounds and what caused them have not been healed and they are repeating by the same christian Right.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:42 PM
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11. time for a bit of history
http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/j/ji/jimmy_swaggart.html

Jimmy Swaggart (born March 15, 1935) was a popular televangelist in the 1980s and a pioneer in that medium.

He was born in Ferriday, Louisiana, cousin of rock and roll legend Jerry Lee Lewis.

While his own televangelism program was being taped in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Swaggart, on February 21, 1988 confessed that he was guilty of an unspecified sin and would be temporarily leaving the pulpit. The "unspecified sin" was an affair with a prostitute.

Some time later, he was stopped for speeding. In the car with him was another prostitute.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:47 PM
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13. I'm sure she was with him for the best of reasons
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 06:48 PM by gtrump
Perhaps he was offering her a position on his staff.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:11 PM
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19. LOL!
Job opening immediately available on Airline Highway.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:46 PM
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25. They never got around to renaming it "Jimmy Swaggart Blvd."?
Good to see the ol' home town still on terra firma...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:14 PM
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28. We were LUCKY. If Ivan was a direct hit, I wouldn't be here right now.
Fermez l'arbuste!






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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:22 PM
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33. Some magazine did an amazing spread on this story
It might have been Rolling Stone, might have been Playboy, I really can't remember the source, but I remember the article well. It included a lengthy interview with the prostitute, photos, everything. This was no one-time event in Jimmy's life. He was a regular customer.

The other thing I remember is that his encounters with the prostitutes were peculiar. They rarely had intercourse. It was more voyeurism. I guess that's how he defended it in his twisted little mind.

A liar and a cowardly weasel - that's the impression I have of Swaggart.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:52 PM
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14. How very republican. n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:53 PM
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15. I wonder how many people have had those same thoughts
about Swaggert, the killin part i mean.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:58 PM
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16. Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?
Look, I'm not a hateful person or anything--I believe we should all live and let live. But lately, I've been having a real problem with these homosexuals. You see, just about wherever I go these days, one of them approaches me and starts sucking my cock.

Take last Sunday, for instance, when I casually struck up a conversation with this guy in the health-club locker room. Nothing fruity, just a couple of fellas talking about their workout routines while enjoying a nice hot shower. The guy looked like a real man's man, too--big biceps, meaty thighs, thick neck. He didn't seem the least bit gay. At least not until he started sucking my cock, that is.

Where does this queer get the nerve to suck my cock? Did I look gay to him? Was I wearing a pink feather boa without realizing it? I don't recall the phrase, "Suck my cock" entering the conversation, and I don't have a sign around my neck that reads, "Please, You Homosexuals, Suck My Cock."

I've got nothing against homosexuals. Let them be free to do their gay thing in peace, I say. But when they start sucking my cock, then I've got a real problem.............MORE

http://members.hotbears.com/~beachbears/suckingmycock.html
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:23 PM
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30. LO freakin' L!
:D
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:45 PM
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36. ROTFL! that is FUNNY
:D
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:32 PM
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45. That was the best Onion article ever
n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:01 PM
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17. The Hot Gay Men are tempting him too much....
so he has to kill them before.....
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:09 PM
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18. I thought his cousin, Jerry Lee, was
the Killer.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:19 PM
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20. I'm just curious:
what did Old Jimmy actually say? Did he actually say that he was going to kill gays? Or did he ask his loving parishioners to do it for him?

I don't have much of a comment on this, other than "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". I have heard that latent homosexuals are usually the biggest loudmouths when it comes to castigating and hounding THEIR OWN.

Come on Jimmy, which is it now?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:20 PM
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21. Oh yeah, we need more killing in the US. Thanks for reminding us Swaggert
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Corkey Mineola Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:22 PM
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22. Cool! Come kick my ass bare handed you big Christian Bigot!!!
I'd love to have him alone in a room for five minutes. We could 'pray' together. I got some great boxing gloves.
I asked Jesus and he said it's okay to kick Jimmy's ass.
Of course, Jimmy will be embarrassed to be beat up by a FAIRY!
phn1
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:31 PM
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23. A friend of mine used to fly $waggert's Gulfstream-2 corporate jet.
My friend, a devout Christian, left the $waggert Ministries because of $waggert's chronic whore-mongering and heavy drinking, on board the aircraft. Jimmy $waggert is a pitiful low-life looking for something to resonate with those fools that might send him more money.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:34 PM
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35. I guess you know I was CP at Coburn Industries, of Tom Coburn affiliation.
His old man was the horniest old letch I've ever met (and I've met my share)...after years of trying me to find him whores on the road (or airways, as it were) he finally gave up and got another ...uh, person to do it for him. Oops gotta go...back later
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:18 PM
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42. I bailed Freeport-McMoRan CEO Jim-Bob Moffett out of a problem in JAX.
His Westwind had broke-down. Ken Lay sent us in in a Jetstar II to pick up Jim-Bob and the "Mrs. Moffett" (I don't think so!). We flew J-B and his "lady" down to Stuart for Ken Lay's big shin-dig. On de-planing, Jim-Bob offered us whores he knew in the Stuart Beach area. Pre-paid whores. That takes some planning and speaks to the nature of the party that it was so damn important that Jim-Bob get to. It was just another orgy at Tranco's (Ken Lay's company then) "fish camp."
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:16 PM
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55. ahahahaha
ahahahahhaaag!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:33 PM
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24. Id hate to know what a televangelist yells when screwing a whore...
"Ahhhh, the COMING of the LAWD!"


:scared:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:56 PM
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26. So, it's OK to lie AND murder?
"According to a transcript of the program, Swaggart said: "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died." "

And the audience applauded. Great. Typical Christian fundie, and the perfect example of why no one should have anything to do with them.

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Almost_there Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:03 PM
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27. What would Freud say about this nut?
I really wonder what Freud would say about his repressed feelings. This guy is so pathetic, I really feel bad for him, and how misguided and angry he must be. What hell is must be to have to interract with him on a regular basis.

But, he will get what is coming to him in the end. I just can't believe people still listen to him after he "SINNED!!! With those temptresses of the night!!" This guy should be a non-entity, rotting alone in a tenement, wondering where he went wrong. I really wonder about these nuts, though. Are they as crazy as we think they are, or, are they simply shucking and jiving for their audience, just looking to make the next payment on the Benz and get that new house in Banff for his 3rd mistress?

~Almost
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Green Lantern Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:21 PM
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29. When was the last time
you heard of a liberal killing a fundy minister on his altar? Unlike the RW which seems to have no trouble shooting doctors, family planning clinic help. liberal leaders, gays...

Is there a trend here?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:16 PM
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32. Before Jimmy got caught in a motel room with a prostitute
he used to rail against prostitution in his TV sermons. Perhaps Jimmy has tasted cock before, and liked it, and his hate speech against homosexuality is a defense mechanism as was the one about prostitution.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:22 PM
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34. But Didn't Jesus Say the Very Same Thing?
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 09:26 PM by David Zephyr
And seeing the multitudes, Jesus went up into the mountains, and when he was set, his disciples asked him;

"Master, what do you say when a man has desire for another man in his heart?"

Than Jesus, knowing that his disciples were troubled, answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, that ye have heard from the Psalms of David that no single man is purely righteous and that all men have wickedness in their hearts, but look fellows, I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one man ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and then tell God he died."

And the disciples remembered that day on the mountain and Jesus' teachings.

---The Gospel According to Jimmy's Gonna-Burn-In-Hell Swaggert.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:01 PM
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39. heh heh heh
If you can do that out loud, you'll make friends and influence people. And make people squirm uncomfortably.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:48 PM
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37. Is Jesus coming?
Not just yet, but he's quiverin'


:evilgrin:
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:57 PM
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38. Isn't one of the '10 Commandments', "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?
What am I missing here?

:wow:
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oldmanpeacenik Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:13 PM
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40. Actually...
...it's usually interpreted as "Thou shalt not commit murder." The death penalty is actually prescribed in the Old Testament for certain crimes, so the commandment can't very well mean "thou shalt not kill."

Worst part about this is that it makes people think that all Christians are like that. I'm not a Christian myself but plenty of my friends and associates have the faith. By and large they don't listen to Swaggart, they don't like Swaggart, and wouldn't agree with his attitude. (That's even true of some of the Republicans.) Some of them disapprove of homosexuality but most of them would keep their mouths shut about it reckoning that it's not their business. Still when my granddaughter heard about this she said something like "That's why Christians suck."

I said, "What? All the countless billions of 'em, honey? Every last one?"

I suppose she'll grow out of it, but I still don't like to hear that sort of thing.
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:33 AM
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49. I don't consider the old testament Christian.
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Pikku Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:18 PM
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43. Swaggart uses a different Bible than I do, obviously.

Mine has a part that says

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Matthew 7:3-5
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:18 PM
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41. jesus
i hate people who hijack religion like that. fucking assholes.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:26 PM
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44. Uh, Jimmy? You've badly misunderstood what being "washed in the ..
.. blood of the lamb" is all about.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:40 PM
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46. Wow I never thought I would get to tell my favorite Swaggart joke again !!
What is the difference between Jimmy Swaggart and a jewel thief?

A jewel thief snatches watches.


I guess old Jimmy ain't ever gonna come outta that closet...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:58 PM
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48. LOL
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:35 PM
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53. Swaggart dun lost his damn mind....
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:56 PM
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54. link to video here:
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 07:18 PM by goodboy
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:36 PM
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56. and kick
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