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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:24 PM
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Bush more optimistic about Iraq than assessments by intelligence community
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/260/politics/Bush_more_optimistic_about_Ira:.shtml

WASHINGTON (AP) While a new intelligence estimate offers a gloomy assessment of Iraq's future, President Bush talks instead about brighter days ahead under a new prime minister and the promise of free elections. ''Freedom is on the march,'' he told a campaign rally Thursday.

Iraq is a daily theme of Bush's campaign speeches, often a springboard for attacking Democratic rival John Kerry. But Bush does not speak about the more than 1,000 U.S. deaths, the highly publicized kidnappings, executions and beheadings, or the dark scenarios outlined in the highly classified National Intelligence Estimate that was presented to him in late July.

The new report offers a sobering picture of Iraq's future in terms of political, economic and security conditions.

In a worst-case scenario, it envisions developments pointing to a civil war among Iraq's three major populations, the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.

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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:28 PM
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1. Bush has "Faith-based Intelligence"
What else does he need? :shrug:
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:28 PM
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2. bush is in early stage alzheimers. He says what they tell him to say.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:32 PM
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3. Haven't we been down this road before?
Bush didn't believe the intelligence about there being no WMDs. Now here we go again.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:42 PM
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10. He didn't pay any attention to the pre-9/11 intelligence, either
Why the hell would he bother reading or listening to a status briefing on the deteriorating situation in Iraq? Ah, I remember . . . he doesn't want reality intruding on his delusional, fourth-dimension world.

Those anti-depressants he's ingesting are DEFINITELY doing their job.





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NoMoreChimp Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:37 PM
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4. Iraq is a failure
We lost. Get rid of Bush, and get the occupiers out of Iraq.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:38 PM
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5. In other news..Bush still thinks he won the election.
Ignorance is the country and Bsuh is it's King.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 07:42 PM
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6. Fantasy World
That's the nice thing about living in a fantasy world. You can believe garbage that is absolutely total bushshit.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:18 PM
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7. Ummm, "on the march" is not the best choice of words

given the situation in Iraq these days.
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NJGeek Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:20 PM
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8. I wonder why
Dumbya is a MISERABLE FAILURE.

F HIM

GO JOHN KERRY GO
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 08:27 PM
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9. Bush isn't intelligent? That's not breaking news
Oops. Misread the title a wee bit <snort chuckle snort>
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 09:53 PM
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11. Delusional, arrogant, spoiled, dimbulb..
just for starters.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:01 PM
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12. Dem ad "Bush on the deck of an aircraft carrier...''Mission Accomplished"
from the cited article:

"The Democratic Party, in a new television ad attacking Bush's credibility, asked, ''How can you solve problems when you won't even admit they're there?'' The ad shows Bush on the deck of an aircraft carrier declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under a ''Mission Accomplished'' banner in May 2003."

Heh heh heh - Karl & Karen, ya blew that one. Thanks for spending taxpayer dollars to provide the Dems with the hammer.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:00 AM
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13. kick
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:32 AM
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14. bush; totally out of touch. Still.
Biggest idiot, buggest FLIP-FLOPPER, dumb as dirt, and totally out of touch with reality.

No wonder rightwingnuts worship him.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:57 AM
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15. BushWorld versus RealWorld
In today's NYTimes columnist Bob Herbert writes:
...
Three more marines were killed yesterday in Iraq. Kidnappings are commonplace. The insurgency is growing and becoming more sophisticated, which means more deadly. Ordinary Iraqis are becoming ever more enraged at the U.S.

When the newscaster David Brinkley, appalled by the carnage in Vietnam, asked Lyndon Johnson why he didn't just bring the troops home, Johnson replied, "I'm not going to be the first American president to lose a war."

George W. Bush is now trapped as tightly in Iraq as Johnson was in Vietnam. The war is going badly. The president's own intelligence estimates are pessimistic. There is no plan to actually win the war in Iraq, and no willingness to concede defeat.

I wonder who the last man or woman will be to die for this colossal mistake.

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:01 AM
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16. This is a REALLY big story, IMO...the evidence is clear shrub is lying to
voters. I wish there was going to be a debate tonight. The fool gets a completely dire NIE in July, the situation has demonstrably gotten worse since he received the report, yet he still insists everything is fine.
I'd love to see him have to debate this tonight on TV. It would be the perfect kickoff to the weekend.

:kick:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 07:47 AM
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17. Who DARES question Der Fuhrer?!?
Dear God in Heaven, it is happening AGAIN!
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