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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:08 PM
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Professor says Bush revealed National Guard favoritism (CNN)
NEW YORK (CNN) -- A business school professor who taught George W. Bush at Harvard University in the early 1970s says the future president told him that family friends had pulled strings to get him into the Texas Air National Guard.

Yoshi Tsurumi, in his first on-camera interview on the subject, told CNN that Bush confided in him during an after-class hallway conversation during the 1973-74 school year.

"He admitted to me that to avoid the Vietnam draft, he had his dad -- he said 'Dad's friends' -- skip him through the long waiting list to get him into the Texas National Guard," Tsurumi said. "He thought that was a smart thing to do."

While the campaign has not responded directly to Tsurumi's allegations, White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said last week, "Every time President Bush gets near another election, all the innuendo and rumors about President Bush's service in the National Guard come to the forefront."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/bush.professor/
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:09 PM
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1. That's because Bush is still LYING about it, douchebag.
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:59 AM
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27. Isn't the professor more credible than a document?
I hope Dan get him in a TV interview.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:12 PM
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2. Bush - arrogant, stupid, drunk, cokehead, appointed Preznit by friends
What the FUCK is going on in this country?
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:13 PM
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3. Junior and his father are both BIG FUCKING LIARS!
When will Amerika finally realize this fact? The rest of the world already knows!

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:13 PM
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4. deny deny deny deny deny deny deny, attack credibility attack credibility
attack credibility... the rove approach to everything that might keep bush from his "god-given" presidential post.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:20 PM
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5. REpubs will vote for Shrub anyway, but a few of them are starting to look
around for the clothspin to take with them to the voting booth. This might cause a few Repubs to forget to put the bumper sticker on the car. By few, I mean maybe one out of a thousand.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:40 PM
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7. And here in central Texas, I think
its 'vogue' to like the twit. Kinda like new fall season fashions...hopefully they will get tired of the latest fad before its too late.
'sides, u know how goofy you realize you looked when you look back years up the road? same damn difference.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:31 PM
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13. One thing I've never understood is how real Texans can be so gullible
they take to this dude ranch Texan who is about as related to John Wayne as , say, Michael Jackson.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:37 AM
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26. Even John Wayne
was Marion Morrison from Iowa.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:04 AM
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28. also a phony.
wanna be warrior.

180
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:09 PM
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17. Welcome to DU, Texaslady!
Do you think that Kitty Kelley's book will make a difference in the way Bush is perceived in Texas, especially among women?
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Thurston Howe IV Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:47 PM
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11. Not all those who vote Republican are ideological
Remember the soccer moms? I know people in the suburbs of Chicago who have the potential to vote against Bush. Several of them are from a hardcore military family. We just need a few percent to shake loose.

With all the shit that is hitting the fan, you would think that it would eventually have an effect. Time will tell.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:23 PM
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6. Give back the discharge you never earned, coward. Then go do the
24 months of active duty you owe us in Iraq. How very fitting that would be.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:40 PM
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8. Just ignore Bartlett

given history, we have to assume that whenever he says anything he has likely just 'misspoke'
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:41 PM
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9. I hope the professor is ready for the smear wave coming his way
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:55 PM
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21. I just emailed the Prof. with a thank you.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 09:46 PM
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10. My new theory.....
I spend a lot of time trying to figure out what transpired when the cabal chose Bush to be the candidate. I think about his lousy record of life accomplishments and his sinister attitude and humor and I came up with conclusions that I'm now tossing out.

I thought it was because they tested the attachment that would be established between the back slapping born again George and the people who would love his christianity and 'confidence'. I thought they tested the forgiveness and tolerance that would be coming from the pearl necklaced, suit and tied republicans. I thought it was because he could be their figurehead, while the cabal ran things.

I now think that they purposely chose him as one clog in the wheel of bringing down our country. Contaminating the office of the president with such a shallow, empty, embarassment of a leader could help erode another branch and facet of the consitutional structure. Put a joke of a leader in there and make a joke of the office. They are always doing the opposite of what they say - they said they would bring honor and integrity back to the WH.

And this fits with everything else they are doing. They are trying to take away our rights, they stole our votes, they are trying to change the consitution, they are railroading all the highest judgeships, they are bankrupting us, they are letting the military run wild, they are demeaning all the intelligence employees, they've sold out to Sharon-Likud -

so what is wrong with my analysis?

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:34 PM
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15. Nothing, Your Thesis Is Sound.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:15 PM
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19. I think that the Cabal is the Bush family itself
I think that most Republicans intended McCain to be the nominee in 2000. Nobody perceived Baby Bush as a threat until Rove unleashed the attack dogs and grabbed the SC primary. By that time it may have been too late. The Bush family is enormously wealthy and powerful, due in no small measure to their business dealings with the Saudi royal family.

As a former president, Poppy has access to classified information, CIA reports, etc. His connections are unimaginably vast. Consider his resume. In addition to four years as president, he had eight years as an extremely powerful VP. Poppy was CIA chief under Ford, RNC Chair under Nixon, a Representative from Texas. Grandpappy was a Rep from CT.

There's a reason why Pat Buchanan is hollering on TV. The Bushes stole the Republican Party. They're like a drunk behind the wheel. Wheeeee!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:57 AM
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22. Your correct on the face of it - but the cabal is more expansive than 41.
The cabal is a coordinated, orchestrated legion of people and is not just the Bush-Saud's.

There is a Sharon-Likud/Bush/Saudi triad who seem to have enormous influence on each other, but the cabal is the corporate CEO's and BODs, military brass, bankers, reverends, media, Federalist Society, etc. with all the agenda planned dacades ago and day to day and year to year details worked out in the think tanks and all the operatives.
(Shortened version).
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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:18 PM
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12. Hey Dan, I think we are a little beyond innuendo here buddy.
This time it is documented and we found out the little document scrub in Texas wasn't as thorough as you planned. If the Dear Leader would just fess up and tell the truth it would all go away.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 10:33 PM
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14. Nice one.
This statement is too rich:

White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett said last week, "Every time President Bush gets near another election, all the innuendo and rumors about President Bush's service in the National Guard come to the forefront."

Could it be that perhaps because he supported a war he was too chicken to fight and all too willing to send others to die in his place?

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:02 PM
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16. They keep coming out because they're TRUE!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:09 PM
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18. This is the same professor that said Bush
stated people are poor because they're lazy.

He remembers him well and it wasn't a good impression!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-04 11:53 PM
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20. see this thread for previous discussion:
Edited on Mon Sep-13-04 11:57 PM by RevCheesehead
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:03 AM
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23. Well, maybe this time the media will pay attention to the "innuendo"
and find the truth. Bush is a man of privilege. He has never had to work, fight, or suffer for anything. It the affirmative action of privilege that got him into and out of an Ivy League shcool. It was privilege that gave him opportunities to botch huge business investments and be bailed out by his daddy's friends. It won him the governorship and placed him in the Presidency. He has never had to be responsible or accountable to anyone. Now he is directly responsible for the loss of over 1,000 US soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis, total destruction of an historic nation, an onslaught of international hate towards the US, and a country facing economic chaos civil unrest the like of which have not been seen since the Civil War.

Yes, everytime Bush gets near an election the rumors start flying. Maybe one day the truth of the "rumors" will be allowed to come out.
This man is a dope with evil intentions. A truly dangerous mix.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:11 AM
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24. its different NOW.....WAR
people seem to forget that we were not in Iraq in 2000.....our soldiers were not being killed and maimed for a senseless "bush" power grabbing war.

Now his record does come into account and under a microscope because he is sending our soldiers to fight and die.......unlike himself who tried everything to stay out of harms way....
He avoided Nam.......and even with the gift to stay stateside he still couldn't fulfill the oath and Honor of the National Guard....to him it was just a damn game.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:21 AM
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25. "Every time Charles Manson comes up for parole...
...people bring up that whole mass murder thing. Get over it, it's time to move on," said Manson Family Communications Director Dan Bartlett.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:56 AM
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29. Lots more good BushWorld here
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 04:03 AM by JoFerret
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-kelley14.html

<<"Georgie, as we called him then, has absolutely no intellectual curiosity about anything," said Tom Wilner, a 1966 Yale grad. "He wasn't interested in ideas or books or causes. He didn't travel; he didn't read the newspapers; he didn't watch the news; he didn't go to movies."

... Bush. .. When drunk... was "bitingly sarcastic and pugnacious.
...
Anti-Semitism

"During his junior year at Yale, Bush became engaged to his girlfriend in Houston, Cathryn Lee Wolfman. Their engagement was announced in the Houston Chronicle: "Congressman's Son to Wed Cathy Wolfman." But Bush's mother, Barbara, was "rankled" that Wolfman's stepfather was Jewish, a source told Kelley.

"She couldn't abide the fact that Cathryn's stepfather was Jewish," said former family friend Cody Shearer. "'There'll be no Jews in our family,' she said.

.... Tsurumi recalled showing the Depression-era movie "Grapes of Wrath" to help the class empathize with the poor. Bush asked, "Why are you going to show us that Commie movie?"

When Tsurumi called on Bush to discuss how the Depression affected people, Bush answered: "Look. People are poor because they are lazy." Tsurumi said Bush "came across as totally lacking compassion, with no sense of history, completely devoid of social responsibility and unconcerned with the welfare of others."

Dodging Vietnam

....
Although Bush scored the lowest possible passing grade on pilot aptitude, he was accepted into the Air National Guard.

"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment," Kelley quotes Bush as saying. "Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
<more>








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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:05 AM
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30. Article should say, tried to teach.
I think Yoshi had a hard time trying to teach the turdbrain dipshit.

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