Newsweek - Memory: Remember It Right? (on Bush's changing 9/11 story)

[oldmanpeacenik]

Not sure what to make of this, but it's interesting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5970907/site/newsweek/

[TrogL]

1. They could be gearing up to challenge the secretary's story

[Kierkegaard]

2. I think they need to exchange the word

flashbulb with dimbulb. This guy is freaking pathological and I wish suckup retards would stop making excuses for his obvious stupidity and propensity to lie his ass off.

/rant

[yardwork]

8. What you said

They are spinning chimp's lie as a mistaken memory.

Maybe we'll start to get articles about chimp's "recovered memories" soon.

[Just Me]

14. I've been trying to track down transcripts from 2000.

Transcripts from this liar's prior representations and promises,...and I can NOT find them.

Have you any link to those?

They would make for such fabulous comparisons between bullshit and reality.

[bobbyboucher]

3. He did see it.

Closed cicuit, at the hotel before he left for Booker.

[leftchick]

4. making excuses for the LIAR in chief...."memory glitch"?

He is a pathologial liar is why...

<snip>
Two of his recollections are similar, but factually impossible. On Dec. 4, 2001, and Jan. 5, 2002, Bush told audiences he saw the first plane hit the tower on TV before he entered the classroom. But he couldn't have seen it; nobody saw it live on TV. Between those recountings, on Dec. 20, Bush told The Washington Post that Karl Rove told him. This isn't to say the president is a fabulist. He's just exhibiting a prominent example of a common memory glitch, says UCLA psychology fellow Dan Greenberg, who published a paper this summer in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology called "President Bush's False Flashbulb Memory of 9/11/01."

Greenberg says this is more evidence that "flashbulb memories"—major events people remember "like it was yesterday"—are not as indelible as experts thought. (This was proved in a four-year study after the 1986 Challenger explosion, when witnesses dramatically altered their memories of the disaster.) Greenberg thinks Bush saw the first-tower crash footage replayed so often that it seemed as if he had seen it as it happened. Greenberg struggles to explain why Bush, having remembered events differently in his second recounting, went back to the original version. The White House declined to comment.

[David Zephyr]

5. Bush Claimed "Seeing the First Plane" In Florida and In California. Twice

He even went on to say that "someone had a television outside the classroom".

This is in transcripts.

This is on audio.

This is on video.

This is even on the White House Website.

Bush said that he saw the first plane hit the first tower.

[Jane Austin]

13. Did Bush use the word "obviously" in saying there was a

television outside the classroom?

He often uses that word when he's lying.

It's part of his attempt at verisimilitude.

[Eloriel]

17. That's an interesting observation

Very. I'll have to watch for that -- that is IF I can stand to watch him at all.

[Jane Austin]

21. I've seen it several times when he was clearly pulling

things out of his butt.

He's so transparent. Has been from the beginning for me.

I have been just stunned for so long that anybody . . . anybody at all . . . took him seriously.

My children were better liars when they were four and five!

[NWHarkness]

6. It's not a glitch, it's a plain old lie

Designed to exploit the public's emotions.

[speedoo]

7. No, Greenberg. He's just a liar, trying to cover up his 7 minutes.

What an idiotic theory.

[yardwork]

9. Remember the missing billions of dollars

A million here, a million there....

[Zorra]

25. Yep, this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

Bu$h lied, and dude is trying to cover it up. Bu$h lies so often he just can't keep his stories straight.

Hey, I saw Elvis yesterday! Whoops - no I didn't - it was "Zorra's False Flashbulb Memory of Elvis.

No, I'm fibbin'.

Excerpt:

Bush told audiences he saw the first plane hit the tower on TV before he entered the classroom. But he couldn't have seen it; nobody saw it live on TV. Between those recountings, on Dec. 20, Bush told The Washington Post that Karl Rove told him. This isn't to say the president is a fabulist. He's just exhibiting a prominent example of a common memory glitch, says UCLA psychology fellow Dan Greenberg, who published a paper this summer in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology called "President Bush's False Flashbulb Memory of 9/11/01."

Yuh. Right.

[maryallen]

10. Says Advertisement beside article ...

???

[illiteratepresident]

11. 9/11 In Plane Sight

http://www.policestate21.com/

9/11 In Plane Sight

"Shocking - Thought provoking - Raises serious questions about the government's honesty in conducting the 9-11 investigation"
"Absolutely awesome. This is the one September 11 video that everyone should see."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1/inplanesite.rm

As with all this guy's online videos, the resolution Bites. But if you are too stingy to pay or too timid or badwidth impaired to do peer to peer for the download, this is still a chance to see a groundbreaking video about 9/11 its many unanswered questions.

[Nashyra]

12. He's either a liar or grossly incompetent or both

If he saw the first airplane hit he should have stopped dead in tracks and gone to AF1 and acted like the commander in chief, instead he went inside the school and read a fucking goat story.

[Just Me]

15. I'll be nice: he's psychologically-impaired and has projected his illness

upon our country and the world.

Let's file whatever legal action necessary to get him (and all his sociopathic circle of "friends") the treatment required TO STOP DESTROYING THE REST OF US!!!

[the Kelly Gang]

16. utter bullshit..I remember every minute as it unfolded..if B***

has 'flashbulb' memory then he's even worse than we think..
ok ok I know, how can he possibly be any worse ?

[dqueue]

18. Does this fit in with Stanley Hilton?

I just caught this thread on GD, an interview with one Stanley Hilton. In any case, it's tinfoil hat stuff, and it came to mind when I saw this blurb...

Coincidance...

[goforit]

20. Wow!!!!...........Gooooooooo SH!!!!!!

God Bless him!!!!

[Norquist Nemesis]

24. Holy Shit!

I'm not familiar with Alex Jones. Is he considered credible?

That interview would, without a doubt, be the biggest bombshell for Bush. Hilton certainly sounds like he has creds, and he's Dole's former Chief of Staff. It's hard to point a finger claiming he's partisan with his background.

Imagine if Tim Russert or Tom Brokaw interviewed Hilton!

On second thought, :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: given that this interview took place 9/10/04, could that be tied to trying to destroy CBS and Dan Rather's credibility? :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[goforit]

19. Inconsistency is as good as a lie detector test!!!....He's QUILTY!!!!

[Gyre]

22. Just like lawyers

you can find a shrink to say anything.

Gyre

[Kimber Scott]

23. The banner ad on this page is awesome!

It's the first banner ad I've ever paid attention to. Points to http://www.retrovsmetro.org It looks very interesting.

As for the article, seems to be a polite little jab, quietly suggesting that Bush is full of shit.

[DeepModem Mom]

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