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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:31 PM
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WH: Kerry, Dems in orchestrated smear (60 Minutes/Guard Memos)
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 09:32 PM by Dickie Flatt
The White House accused Democrats and the Kerry campaign Wednesday of an orchestrated smear effort against President George W. Bush. The effort, centered around Bush's National Guard record and possibly forged documents purporting to show Bush shirked his duty, was being pursued because "John Kerry has fallen behind in the polls," spokesman Scott McClellan said. "It's really because Sen. Kerry cannot win when the discussion is on the issues and the future for the American people," he said. "There is no question about the timing (of the attacks) and there is no question that this is an orchestrated effort by the Kerry campaign and Democrats to bring down the president."


Washington Times
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:32 PM
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1. I see they're still not answering the questions Rather asked..
:eyes:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:34 PM
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2. they are so funny - when the discussion is on the issues -
kerry is the only one talking about the issues - WH only tells lies
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:43 PM
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9. Gives new meaning to the phrase
BIG WHITE LIES
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:35 PM
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3. Why, what about the swift boat liars.....did they try to bring down
Kerry, the White House and Rove...What a crock...they make me sick...
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:38 PM
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4. Um, excuse me, but isn't the point of ANY election to bring down
the opposition?

If bringing down a sitting (p)resident were such a horrible crime, why don't we just do away with elections altogether?

Oh, sorry, that's the goal, isn't it?

The strategy of the pukes is to make it appear that NO sitting (p)resident should ever be challenged. He should just be allowed to do whatever he damn well pleases.

THAT's the real purpose of challenging the memos.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:38 PM
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5. That means THEY did it.
Ever notice how the DARTH ROVE tactics are to accuse his opponants of the very things the Repugs are doing?
We need to ingore this. It does not merit a dignified response.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:50 PM
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13. Yup.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:40 PM
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6. so, bush was behind in the polls when the swift boat scum went to work..
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:40 PM
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7. Hold on McClellan, not just Dems, Indy's want him torn down too.
GOP, realize, he's a piece of crap - the President that is. As a man - sure, he deserves the rights that we all do - but nothing more. And since your Neo Nazi party has taken away our rights... He is fare game. You did Kerry with SBVT, but now this time it's true - Now it's pay back time. Deal wit it. Dems and Indy's, are no longer wimps.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:42 PM
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8. sniff....sniff?....is that
eau d' Watergate i smell?

or just a knock-off? NO QUESTION, indeed.
dp
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:43 PM
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10. Well, I wouldn't call it "orchestrated" by a long shot.
There are many of us who have been clamoring for the whore media to investigate this so far to no avail - and yes, we fervently want to "bring down" the throw out the criminal liying usurper in Al Gore's House. But it's a bunch of us INDIVIDUALLY who have tried to do this, without the help of apologists like Daschle, Miller and LIEberman.

To right a wrong - the stolen election of 2000 - is the MAIN reason I want to see this bunch out.

Equally more devestating, is the harm they have caused our country, that none of us in our wildest nightmares ever contemplated THEY would have accomplished.

YES - WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:46 PM
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11. Gee, Scotty
Sounds kinda familiar, like didn't the Dems say that about Bush just a few weeks ago? That he couldn't run on the issues so he resorted to attacking Kerry's record?

The least they could do is get some original material.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:49 PM
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12. smear ? why not just prove Bush served ?
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:59 PM
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16. A: because you can't prove a negative????
:)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:15 PM
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20. Rumsferatu would call that an unknown...
...unknown.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:56 PM
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14. shouldn't they also ask Fox to retract
all their bullshit over the years.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:57 PM
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15. Well this can't be good for * if they have the Moonie times
damage control already, i mean even more damage control. I'm sure "fat" Tony B held this story in his vienna sausage like fingers all day just waiting for 60 mins to be over tonight.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:04 PM
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17. The Washington Times?
Christ, as shitty as the Bush WH is, I STILL wouldn't trust ANYTHING Moonie Times had to say.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:19 PM
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23. I verified Scotty's comments against WH transcripts; story checks out [n/t
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:10 PM
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18. I sincerely hope so!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:10 PM
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19. funny, scott. really funny. nice of you to release the same documents
at the same time as CBS. what'cha got in store for us at 5 PM on friday, scottie? huh?
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:17 PM
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21. An effort to bring down the president?
'Round here, we call those 'elections'.

Sheesh. It hurts to see these thugs dissolve into such whimpering sissies.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:22 PM
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25. they like to pretend he's king. remember, god appointed him, and he
"doesn't intend to lose the election."

remember what Kitty Kelley said. they will do what it takes to win this election.

but everybody knows that Kerry has had nothing whatsoever to do with the CBS memos, and georgie has never responded to the questions about his guard failures.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:17 PM
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22. So, did the Moonie Times get a sense of when FratBoy intended to....
...answer Kerry's questions?

The NeoCons are getting more desperate with each passing day. Who will they blame tomorrow? Or the day after that?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:19 PM
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24. Provide the proof bastard.
You can end it in a minute.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:40 PM
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26. The WH condoned an orchestrated effort by the SB veterans
What MAJOR hypocrites! Only John McCain commented on the lies and slander that caused damage to Kerry by those Swift Boat guys, but this is different, of course!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 10:47 PM
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27. Democrats? Organized??? Snarf!
I don't THINK so!

That has got to be the very definition of paranoia, when they start accusing the Democrats of being organized. Puh-leeze. I can now go to bed and sleep easy. Things are well in hand. The 'Pubs are in disarray. They have resorted to the "last resort" option. No one could possibly believe this. There must be some really desperate meetings/shredding/faxing going on right about now.
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