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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:34 PM
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Washington's secret nuclear war
By Shaheen Chughtai

Tuesday 14 September 2004, 22:17 Makka Time, 19:17 GMT

The US has dropped tonnes of depleted uranium on Iraq

Illegal weapons of mass destruction have not only been found in Iraq but have been used against Iraqis and have even killed US troops.

But Washington and its allies have tried to cover up this outrage because the chief culprit is the US itself, argue American and other experts trying to expose what they say is a war crime.

The WMD in question is depleted uranium (DU). A radioactive by-product of uranium enrichment, DU is used to coat ammunition such as tank shells and "bunker busting" missiles because its density makes it ideal for piercing armour.

Thousands of DU shells and bombs have been used in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and - both during the 1990-91 Gulf war and the ongoing conflict - in Iraq.


"They're using it now, they're using it in Falluja, Baghdad is chock-a-block with DU - it's all over the place," says Major Doug Rokke, director of the US army's DU project in 1994-95.

more
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B2E2DF9B-1E0C-43F4-BBF6-074C1367E27C.htm
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:36 PM
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1. What difference does it make? These ass holes have no value for
human life anyway. They would kill their mother for a dollar.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:41 AM
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23. Couldn't have said it any better
nm
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:52 PM
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2. There are two spent 30 mm shell casings in my garage.
They were used in the first gulf war, c. 1991, and say "depleted uranium" (uranium oxide) on them. My point is that we have been spreading this type of democracy, freedom and liberty in the middle east for the past thirteen years. Go figure???????

And yes, my bouts with lymphoma and thyroid cancers are now in remission. What price the future of ours and theirs????

Literally, makes me sick!!!!!!

Yes, I lived there for what might be too long a time..........
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:55 PM
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3. I'm so sorry to hear about your health problems.
I remember Cheney and Powell giving those press conferences in 1991.

OMF what horror has the United States allowed to be unleashed on the world?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 11:59 PM
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4. Agent Orange my family has lived with for 30 years Wwagsthedog
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:02 AM by seemslikeadream
I understand

Do you know about
National Gulf War Resource Center?
www.ngwrc.org
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:05 AM
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5. This is bullshit.
Depleted uranium is nothing more than uranium which has had its more useful (and dangerous) isotopes already removed.

Depleted uranium is considered effectively non-radioactive by most people who handle it. It is not considered a radiological hazard unless a large amount of it finds its way into the human body. Since the traditional delivery method of a "large amount" of depleted uranium is in the shape of a bullet moving at a thousand meters a second, the human body is going to have much more immediate problems if depleted uranium is introduced.

And here's the punchline. Uranium has lower heavy metal toxicity than... lead. Are you crapping your pants about all those war veterans, cops, and inner city kids who are walking around with bullet fragments in their bodies--possibly including our candidate, John Kerry? When's the last time you read an article about all that dangerous lead that can be found in war zones?

Probably never, because people understand that war is hell and flying lead is one of the primary dangers of the battlezone. But uranium is scary, and good for a lot of mileage in the papers.

http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/dutoxic010112_1_n.shtml
http://deploymentlink.osd.mil/faq/du_faq.shtml
http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_ii/
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/rpb/depleted_uranium.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:21 AM
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8. Every member of Rokke's unit is either dead from radiation or very sick
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:21 AM by seemslikeadream
Two US Government Whistleblowers Speak


Two US Government Whistleblowers Speak on US's Conventional Radiation Weapons
Date Thursday, January 23 @ 04:38:10
Topic Anti-War Campaign


Doug Rokke, formerly in charge of the US Army's unit that was responsible for cleaning up Depleted Uranium (DU) after the last Gulf War, and Leuren Moret, a whistleblower from Lawrence Livermore's nuclear weapons labs, are coming to Pittsburgh at great risk to tell us what they know.

A film both of them took leading responsibilities for making possible, Martin Meissonnier's "The Invisible War: Depleted Uranium", has been obtained by Z Films directly from France as it is strangely unavailable in the US. The film has been screened in various Pittsburgh neighborhoods but will be screened at Carnegie Mellon with Q&A from Doug Rokke:
Saturday, January 25: 6 pm, McConomy Auditorium
(Carnegie Mellon's University Center - 5000 Forbes Ave - map)
Q&A at 7 pm

Doug Rokke and Leuren Moret will lecture together the next day:
Sunday, January 26: 10 am, Porter Hall 125C US PREMIERE of the European Parliament report on the public health effects of low level radiation (presented by Doug and Leuren)
(Carnegie Mellon - near Flag Staff Hill, map)
News Item - 'Study Cites Health Woes of WTC Workers'
New Download
Download a de-classified memo from 1943 on considering radioactive dust as a special weapon

Every member of Doug Rokke's unit is either dead from radiation or very sick. Doug has suffered for speaking out, and is making a tour of the mid-West and North-Eastern United States to tell people about what the US and UK are insisting on doing every time they bomb Iraq.

more
http://www.zi-activism.net/print.php?sid=110


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snowFLAKE Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:28 AM
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20. Major Rokke's crew - are they really "Dead from Radiation?"
According to http://sftimes.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$61
, The Major details other conditions his unit encountered in the gulf war that maybe, just maybe, had bad health effects: These include:

anthrax and botulinum vaccinations (of which some batches were contaminated with squalene)

ingestion of PB (pyridostigmine bromide) tablets (an nerve gas antidote)

contaminated food (possibly due to sabotage with biological agents)

water sanitation issues that prevented bathing

exposure to incomplete combustion of inorganic and organic compounds from oil well fires

physical injuries

Before reading this thread, I was sadly ignorant, thinking that some of these factors might contribute to "Gulf War Syndrome" - but now I Know that it's all the fault of Depleted Uranium.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:30 AM
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9. one thing you left out
When DU munitions explode they create a super fine dust which gets in the lungs and stays in the body. It is the dust that is deadly.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:54 AM
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12. Just like lead.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:18 AM
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19. Then why use it?
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 07:21 AM by auburngrad82
If it's basically useless then what's the point of using depleted uranium?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:31 AM
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21. It's used for its armour-piercing qualities...
not its radioactivity or toxicity, I believe.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:55 AM
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24. It's mostly about mass.
The more mass you can concentrate in the same space, the more stuff it's going to push out of its way before it is stopped. Make it go fast to give it lots of kinetic energy, than concentrate that energy into a supermassive point, and it will penetrate much farther than a regular round. Tanks can have nine inches or more of armor, so if you want to take out a tank, you have to hit it very hard.

Depleted uranium beats lead by a lot in terms of mass, density and, when mixed with other substances, hardness.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:11 AM
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6. National Gulf War Resource Center Depleted Uranium Weapons
Depleted Uranium Weapons

Nuclear Policy Research Institute

DU Likely Exposure map

What is Depleted Uranium:
Depleted uranium is a very effective munition, however it is a chemically toxic and radioactive heavy metal nearly twice as dense as lead. DU is primarily an alpha emitter with a half-life of 4.5 billion years.

Where has DU been Used :
DU was first used During the 1991 Gulf War and was later used in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and is currently being used as the Gulf War continues in Iraq today.

How to Identify DU Bullets:
The A-10 fires a 30mm round about the size and shape of a cigar. The Harrier jets fire a slightly smaller 25mm round. These rounds are essentially solid DU. Since approximately 25 percent of DU rounds fired from aircraft hit the intended target, many DU rounds may be found in or near target vehicles or equipment, on the soil surface,
or buried under the soil surface. These rounds may be slightly deformed from impact. They may be covered in a black uranium dust, as DU rounds corrode over time. Intact DU rounds have a radioactivity of approximately 200 mrem/hour, which can be detected through use of radiation detection devices.

How to Identify DU Contamination:
When a DU round impacts a target, between 10 and 70% of the mass of the round burns, releasing an extremely fine uranium dust. Most of this dust is respirable in size
(less than 5 microns) and insoluble. The presence of black DU dust and entry holes on the outside of a vehicle are telltale signs of a DU impact. In the event a DU impact causes an explosion or fire, it may be more difficult to identify DU contamination in and around a vehicle. Over time, wind, water, and human contact may resuspend or scatter DU dust from the surface of a vehicle, further impeding identification efforts. The only positive way to identify DU contamination is to survey equipment and soil with radiation detection devices capable of detecting alpha radiation.

How to Avoid Exposure:
Since there is so little known about DU it is hard to say for sure how to completely protect yourself without the proper gear, but to start with stay away from any vehicle, equipment, or structure which you believe may have been hit by DU rounds or Tomahawk cruise missiles. Do not pick up or collect DU rounds found lying on the ground. Inform NATO forces and/or relief workers (in writing, if possible) you suspect DU contamination of an area, and mark the area as potentially contaminated. If you are in a potentially contaminated area (such as near destroyed tanks), wear respiratory protection and gloves at a minimum, and adhere to good personal hygiene (wash frequently). Visually examine clothing and skin for deposition of black DU dust and decontaminate as needed. If you suspect you were exposed to DU dust or fragments, contact a physician or relief worker and arrange for a 24-hour urine test to be analyzed for U-238, U-235, U-234, and creatinine.
more
http://www.ngwrc.org/Issues.cfm?NewsTopicID=8

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snowFLAKE Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:12 AM
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17. In addition to its other Evil Properties
DU also appear to be racist. Based on your map, Kuwaiti's (where most of the Gulf War 1 DU use occurred) should be suffering the brunt of the ILL EFFECTS. Instead Iraqi's (most of whom where Far Away) are. A logical explanation is that DU is racist - selectively targeting the Iraqi's, even at low levels of exposure, with ILLNESS while sparing the highly-exposed Kuwaiti's. This is of course how Things Should Be, considering that Kuwaiti's are Good People and highly Pro-American.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:17 AM
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7. Depleted uranium


Plutonium cancer risk may be higher than thought
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/Plutonium-Cancer.html

Iraq's real WMD crime
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/DUREPORT/Iraqs-real-WMD-crime-1.html
Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/A-death-sentence-here-and-abroad.html
Iraq looted from all possible materials
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/Stealing_from_Iraq.html
Depleted Uranium: Pentagon Poison
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/PentagonPoison.html
Known Illnesses inflicted by internalisation of DEPLETED URANIUM PARTICLES
GENERAL:
abnormal metabolism of semen: contains amine & ammonium alkaline
acute autoimmune symptoms (lung-, liver-, kidneyfailure)
acute myeloid leukemia (deadly within days or weeks)
acute immunity depression
acute respiratory failure
Balkan-syndrome
blood in stool & urine (occult and visible)


bone cancer
brain tumors
burning semen
burning sensations
chronic fatigue
chronic kidney and liver disorders
chronic myeloid leukemia
chronic respiratory infections
colon cancer
diarrhea
digestive problems
general fatigue
glandular carcinoma
Gulfwar-syndrome
headaches
heart attack
high blood pressure
high frequency of micturition
Hodgkin lymphoma
immunity loss & general infections
insomnia
involuntary movements
joint & leg pain
joint pain
kidney failures
leukemia
liver carcinoma
loss of memory
low blood oxygen saturation ( low HbO2)
low lung volume
lung cancer
lymph cancer
lymphoma
melanoma
multiple myeloma
myeloma
muscle pain
non-Hodgkin lymphoma
other malignancies
pancreas carcinoma
petit & grand mal fits
respiratory ailments
shortness of breath
skin cancer
skin damage: sweat glands with trapped du-particles
skin infections
skin spotting
stiffening of fingers
thyroid cancer
unable to walk
vomiting blood
CHILDREN
alimentary disorders
asthma
bladder & sphincter paralysis
blindness
complete range of known and unknown Congenital Defects
deafness
dyspraxia
headache
kidney disease
leukemia
lymphoma
malformations of legs, arms, toes & fingers
respiratory disorders
stillbirth
neural tube defects

FEMALE
abdominal pain
breast cancer
breast cancer at very young age (20)
cervix cancer
headaches
incontinence
joint pain
lung cancer at age 20 and no-smoker
lymphoma
menstrual pain
miscarriages
nausea
ovarian cancer
paralysis of digestive syatem
skin cancer
skin eruptions
stomach pain
suicide
thyroid problems
unable to walk
uterus cancer

MALE
{acute} headache
acute myeloid leukemia
arthritis
avoiding people
breathing problems {stridor}
chemical sensitivity
chronic myeloid leukemia
gastrointestinal disorder
hip- and leg pain
joint pain
lung cancer at young age incl non smokers
lymphoma
skin cancer
skin eruptions
stomach pain
suicide
testicular cancer
unable to walk
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/du-diagnosis.html
Radiation in Iraq Equals 250,000 Nagasaki Bombs
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/silentWMD%27s.html#There
WHO ‘suppressed’ scientific study into
depleted uranium cancer fears in Iraq
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/quant-du.html#Sunday
DU: Cancer as a Weapon
Radioactive War
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/VISIE/du-cancer-weapon.html
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:50 AM
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11. And curiously enough, lead causes many of the same things.
Only worse, because it's more toxic.

dullness
restlessness
irritability
poor attention span
headaches
muscle tremor
abdominal cramps
kidney damage
hallucinations
loss of memory
encephalopathy
tiredness
sleeplessness
irritability
headaches
joint pain
gastrointestinal symptoms
muscle weakness
lower scores on psychometric tests
disturbances in mood
peripheral neuropathy
renal disease
increased hypertension

Lead interferes with the activity of several of the major enzymes involved in the biosynthesis of haem

Inhibition of ferrochelatase by lead results in an accumulation of erythrocyte protoporphyrin (EP), which indicates mitochondrial injury

Lead has also been shown to interfere with calcium metabolism, both directly and by interfering with the haem-mediated generation of the vitamin D precursor 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol.

Gonadal dysfunction in men, including depressed sperm counts, has been associated with blood lead levels of 40–50 µg/dl (90–93). Reproductive dysfunction may also occur in females occupationally exposed to lead (6,61).

Epidemiological studies have shown that exposure of pregnant women to lead increases the risk of preterm delivery.

Elevated cord blood lead levels were associated with minor malformations, such as angiomas, syndactylism, and hydrocele, in about 10% of all babies.

A study on 700 smelter workers (mean blood level 79.7 µg/litre) and battery factory workers (mean blood level 62.7 µg/litre) indicated an excess of deaths from cancer of the digestive and respiratory systems (96), the significance of which has been debated (97,98).

a group of 58 children aged 6–7 years with "high" dentine lead levels (corresponding to a blood lead level of approximately 30–50 µg/dl) performed significantly less well than 100 children from a “low” lead group (mean blood lead level 24 µg/dl).

The cross-sectional studies are, on balance, consistent in demonstrating statistically significant associations between blood lead levels of 30 µg/dl or more and IQ deficits of about 4 points.

http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sanitation_health/GDWQ/Chemicals/leadfull.htm

I absolutely cannot stand it when this sort of thing is treated as a political football to be batted about. Yes, depleted uranium is dangerous, but it's far more dangerous to live in a place that's so fucked up that there are depleted uranium bullets flying around.

Claiming that depleted uranium somehow makes war worse is a losing argument, because DU has lower toxicity than lead and its radiological effects are insignificant. Heck, maybe we should switch over to DU entirely.
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ORprogressive Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:30 AM
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13. Sure
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 02:30 AM by ORprogressive
It's probably all just a fabrication. Maybe we can all cook off of DU frying pans in the near future.


Tell me - do lead dust clouds appear when firing conventional rounds? I'm pretty sure they don't.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:44 AM
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14. Yes, they do.
http://www.detnews.com/2002/health/0210/29/a01-625519.htm

"Mike Hoban lives with unrelenting pain. He has stomach cramps. His hands shake without warning, and he endures piercing headaches.

"Doctors say that Hoban, a safety instructor at an Inkster gun range for the past 16 years, has lead poisoning, with blood levels nearly 20 times the amount considered safe. Now, state health officials are investigating whether residue from thousands of rounds fired each week at Alexander's Indoor Gun Range caused Hoban's illness."

Plus see my earlier link above.
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Tripmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:43 AM
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15. Just one thing guys...
I've been reading this thread, and surely we must all agree that the DU shells, lead shells and the people who fire them should not be in Iraq in the first place, especially using WMDs considering the (false) reasons given for entering the country in the first place!

Tripmann
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 06:41 AM
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16. Yep, I agree with most of that.
We shouldn't be there. I strongly believe that the people there are worse off now than they were before we invaded them under false pretenses.

War is a terrible thing and it should not be taken lightly. But this particular cry-out against depleted uranium is a red herring which will only make the anti-war cause look worse--you may wish to believe, but your high school physics teacher won't.

To sum up my arguments so that I can walk away from this, they are:

1) The radioactivity of depleted uranium is so low that it is, for all practical purposes, insignificant.

2) The heavy-metal toxicity of depleted uranium is actually lower than that of lead. It isn't as easily passed through the gastrointestinal barrier as lead is, either. If it's soluble, it gets passed through the system more quickly than lead. That leaves only one danger, inhalation of insoluble DU, which is potentially more dangerous than lead.

3) Depleted uranium does vaporize and cause hazardous dust, just as lead does. However, taking into consideration points 1) and 2), the argument that depleted uranium is somehow more dangerous than simple lead ordnance isn't going to fly. In fact, you might wind up convincing some people that depleted uranium is the way to go because it packs more punch and is less toxic, with negligible radioactivity.

4) Or, you may somehow win this fight, in which case the armed forces are going to go to the next best thing, lead, which is more toxic and which can use more vectors to harm innocent people. While less effective, it's cheaper, which means that much more lead will be used on the battlefield than DU ever was. Which may create an even more harmful environment than the one we already have.

So there it is. You risk alienating the scientific and medical communities by pursuing this faulty line of reasoning. You also risk harming even more people than are currently at risk. That's where you cross the line from mere bullshit into total irresponsibility.
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snowFLAKE Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. DU frying pans?
Sure, why not?

They'll go along nicely with the next step in the process, I.E., actually eating the food:

Up to the early 1980s, natural and depleted uranium was widely used for
dental porcelains to obtain a natural color and fluorescence of dentures . . .

www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/Civil_Use_of_DU.pdf
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:38 AM
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10. yet another ready-made issue that Kerry isn't pursuing . . .
DU weapons violate international law . . .

DU weapons violate US law (treaties confirmed by the Senate) . . .

DU weapons contaminate the land, air and water . . .

DU weapons contaminate people, both residents of Iraq and Afghanistan AND our own troops . . .

Kerry should be hammering Bush on the use of DU weapons . . . maybe even calling for his impeachment . . . but we hear nothing . . . does he support the use of DU weapons? . . . that's the impression he leaves by not raising the issue . . .
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snowFLAKE Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 07:36 AM
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22. Yes, use of DU weapons is a Terrible Crime against the Iraqi's
Contaminating their enviroment like that for 4.5 billion-odd years with and estimated 2,000 tons of DU.

Once he get's on the bandwagon - maybe he can do something about the MUCH HIGHER levels of uranium being released into the environment right here in the USA:

Based on the predicted combustion of 2516 million tons of coal in the United States and 12,580 million tons worldwide during the year 2040, cumulative releases for the 100 years of coal combustion following 1937 are predicted to be:


U.S. release (from combustion of 111,716 million tons):

Uranium: 145,230 tons (containing 1031 tons of uranium-235)

Thorium: 357,491 tons

Worldwide release (from combustion of 637,409 million tons):

Uranium: 828,632 tons (containing 5883 tons of uranium-235)

Thorium: 2,039,709 tons

http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html

Of course, if the theory I present in another post in this thread that DU is racist is correct (considering it harms Iraqi's but not Kuwaiti's), then all this exposure in the USA is likely NOT A PROBLEM. I think the Jesus might be protecting us, because we are his Chosen People.


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:09 AM
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25. The US has staged four nuclear wars since 1991
..........

In 1995 dollars, according to the Department of Energy (DOE) the US spent approximately 300 billion dollars on nuclear weapons research, production, and testing. Today in the nuclear weapons complex there are 10,500 contaminated sites, 2.3 million acres under DOE ownership, and 120 million square feet of buildings. The 1995 high base cost, estimated by the DOE Environmental Management program, to clean up the environmental legacy is $350 billion. That excludes the Nevada Test Site, Hanford, the Savannah and Clinch rivers, and the Columbia river which are considered to be "national sacrifice zones" because the technology does not exist to clean them up.

.........

Admiral Brooks also informed the Board of Regents that "we’re back in the bomb business" because Los Alamos had just produced the first plutonium "pit" since Rocky Flats closed down. He indicated that they would be making "mini-nukes" only, and nuclear weapons testing would start at the Nevada Test Site in 2005. An hour later, and 45 miles away, he announced to Livermore employees that "we’re back in the bomb business" and they would be making big ones, little ones, and more. By this time it seemed to me that Admiral Brooks was a slippery character and I began to wonder why an Admiral was involved.

.......

As Admiral George P. Nanos, Director of the Los Alamos lab (appointed Jan. 2003), and Admiral S. Robert Foley Jr., UC vice president for laboratory management (appointed Nov. 2003), sat down at the table where the Regents waited, I began to wonder how many more Admirals were involved and why. It did not take long to find out. Admiral Foley informed the Regents about the missing CREM, computer storage devices with classified data, and acknowledged that the security lapse damaged the university’s chances of retaining its Los Alamos contract. "This erodes your position, without any question at all. It’s about as bad as it could be when you’re trying to prepare for a re-competition". He announced that Jack Killeen had been appointed to the UC Presidents Office as special assistant for Los Alamos security: "Jack’s our guy, he was with Wackenhut and he’s our guy…". Among lab employees Wackenhut was better known for ‘wacking’ lab whistleblowers like Karen Silkwood, attempting to run people like Dr. Rosalie Bertell off the road, and has a well-deserved reputation for being a nasty outfit. President Bush and his brother, Governor Jeb Bush, are known to spend time together hanging out with cronies at the Wackenhut "country club" in Florida. Admiral Nanos continued and complained that employees would not follow the security and safety rules. When Foley chimed in that there were going to be more security incidents and lapses at the lab in the future before they got it straightened out, it began to look like a setup. Regents Blum, Parsky, Connerly and a few more leaned forward and demanded to know how it was possible, and stated it was unacceptable, that there would be more security lapses. Foley should have been fired on the spot for falling down on the job. It was obvious that Nanos and Foley were there to blame the employees, justify the management change, and discourage the Regents from competing for the contract. And justification for "cleaning house" and removing the "old guard" who would stand in the way of a takeover and for what is planned for ramping up the program.

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Right after the Regents meeting I contacted a group of students and a Texas State Representative Lon Burnam, opposed to the Univ. of Texas bid for the nuclear weapons management contract. A student told me about FIAT PAX, a website put together by UC Santa Cruz students listing the top 50 University recipients of defense funding for research (see below), and their ties to corporations (see below). The UC Regents with ties to the defense industry were listed with detailed bios. Parsky, the Chair, was the top fundraiser for Bush (after Ken Lay) in both Presidential election bids, and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Vice Chair Blum was tied to the Carlyle Group, invested in URS Corporation (leading contractor with DOD), Korea First Bank , and sits on the Board of Northwest Airlines. Regent Lansing was a trustee of the RAND Graduate School, a branch of the RAND Corporation which had been involved in war-gaming nuclear wars between the US and the USSR, and acts as a bridge between US universities and the military. I also learned that the Carlyle Group managed large amounts of endowment funds for the University of Texas, and that CALPers, the State of California workers pension fund which is the largest in the nation owns 5.2% of Carlyle. FIAT PAX sums it up:

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His comments made the link for me between the nuclear weapons program, the Navy, NASA, and other types of directed energy weapons developed in nuclear weapons labs intended for space. Marion Fulk, a former Manhattan Project scientist and retired Livermore nuclear physical chemist told me that nuclear weapons cannot be used in space without contaminating the atmosphere, and laser weapons will not work because there is too much space trash already up there which will impede the effectiveness of the lasers. Wars in space will create more space trash until it is impossible to leave the earth, which already according to Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, is very dangerous now since a paint chip nearly took out the windshield of the space shuttle. The US plans to weaponize space are a violation of the United Nations 1967 Outer Space Treaty: Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies. The intent was "to promote international co-operation in the peaceful exploration and use of outer space" and specifically prohibited the weaponization of space with ANY weapons, including nuclear weapons.

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under his leadership. SAIC is one of the largest private employee-owned corporations, and like the Carlyle Group, escapes scrutiny (because it is privately owned) despite annual revenues of more than $5.9 billion. In 1990 it was indicted and pled guilty to ten felony counts of fraud on a Superfund site, called "one of the largest of environmental fraud…" in Los Angeles history. DOE contracted SAIC to manage and operate the Yucca Mountain Program, which I worked on as a scientist at the Livermore Lab. I became a whistleblower at Livermore in 1991 because of my knowledge of the extent of science fraud on the most important public works project in US history. SAIC’s control over internet domain names, gained when they purchased Network Solutions Inc., caused a furor and identified the ties in SAIC to "the shadow ruling-class within the Pentagon". Basically SAIC is a private spook corporation, involved in voting machines (SEQUOIA etc.), controlling the internet (Network Solutions), training foreign militaries, and the contractor that set up global communications for the US military. The internet is being changed from a public resource to a lucrative operation influenced by spooks and former Pentagon officials. The internet was a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project to begin with.

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