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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:01 AM
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New Israeli spy probe has a 30-year history, insiders say
By Jim Lobe
Sep 14, 2004, 10:20 pm

U.S. foreign policy Hijacked (FCN, 07/02/2004)

SEATTLE (IPS/GIN) - The burgeoning probe over claims that a Pentagon official passed highly classified secrets to a Zionist lobby group is part of a much broader network of FBI and Pentagon investigations of prominent U.S. neo-conservatives and their ties to Israel dating back some 30 years, according to knowledgeable sources.

The sources, who asked to not be identified, said the FBI has been intensively reviewing a series of past counter-intelligence probes that were started against several high-profile neo-cons but never followed up with prosecutions, due to political pressure, to the great frustration of counter-intelligence officers.

Some of these past investigations involve top current officials, including Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz; Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith, whose office appears to be the focus of the most recently disclosed inquiry; and Richard Perle, who resigned as Defense Policy Board (DPB) chairman last year.

All three were the subject of a lengthy investigative story by Stephen Green published by the progressive newsletter Counterpunch in February. Mr. Green is the author of two books on U.S.-Israeli relations, including “Taking Sides: America’s Secret Relations with a Militant Israel,” which relies heavily on interviews with former Pentagon and counter-intelligence officials.

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The FBI is reportedly also involved in the Pentagon’s investigation, which is overseen by Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for International Technology Security John A. “Jack” Shaw with the explicit support of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
more
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1576.shtml
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:02 AM
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:05 AM
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2. Then I'll post this since you don't like Final Call
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:08 AM by seemslikeadream
Israeli spy nest in the U.S. - Ashcroft says: ’Don’t arrest them!’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802249
Ashcroft Nixes Arrests in Israeli Spy Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796806
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802725
Spy Case Renews Debate Over Pro-Israel Lobby's Ties to Pentagon Cons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=804314
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong VoiceAIPAC Is Embroiled in Investigation
of Pe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803035
Defense, Cheney Iran Specialists Questioned in (Israeli Spy) Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801031
Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration (WaPo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801678
White House Learned of Spy Probe in 2001
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=800454
LAT: Israel Has Long Spied on US,Say Officials(but CIA, Mossad "intimate")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798631
Wider FBI Probe Of Pentagon Leaks Includes Chalabi - WaPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798333
Serving Two Flags The Bush Neo-Cons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=799167
Israeli political advisor may have received U.S. secrets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795817
Pentagon leaks connected to battle over Iran policy (this is big!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=797846
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796889
Alleged Pentagon Leak to Iraqi Is Under Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798060
Spy probe scans neo-cons' Israel ties (long article from Asia Times)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794029
AIPAC hires lawyers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794332
IAEA: No proof of secret Iran plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=793930
WP: Spy Probe Expands/Linked to NSC Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795385
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795432
U.S. Spy Probe Focuses on Two Lobbyists -Guardian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794973

No Final Call here
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:07 AM
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4. Oh wait.
I forgot. You take the Final Call seriously.

Carry on.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:09 AM
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5. Carry on
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:19 AM by seemslikeadream
Israeli spy nest in the U.S. - Ashcroft says: ’Don’t arrest them!’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802249
Ashcroft Nixes Arrests in Israeli Spy Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796806
Secrets: Classified Info: Springing a Leak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x803017
FBI probes Jewish sway on Bush government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=802725
Spy Case Renews Debate Over Pro-Israel Lobby's Ties to Pentagon Cons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=804314
Israel's Mole Inside the Pentagon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=783161
Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong VoiceAIPAC Is Embroiled in Investigation
of Pe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=803035
Defense, Cheney Iran Specialists Questioned in (Israeli Spy) Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801031
Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration (WaPo)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=801678
White House Learned of Spy Probe in 2001
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=800454
LAT: Israel Has Long Spied on US,Say Officials(but CIA, Mossad "intimate")
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798631
Wider FBI Probe Of Pentagon Leaks Includes Chalabi - WaPo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798333
Serving Two Flags The Bush Neo-Cons and Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=799167
Israeli political advisor may have received U.S. secrets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795817
Pentagon leaks connected to battle over Iran policy (this is big!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=797846
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=796889
Alleged Pentagon Leak to Iraqi Is Under Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=798060
Spy probe scans neo-cons' Israel ties (long article from Asia Times)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794029
AIPAC hires lawyers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794332
IAEA: No proof of secret Iran plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=793930
WP: Spy Probe Expands/Linked to NSC Probe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795385
Pentagon Office in Spying Case Was Focus of Iran Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=795432
U.S. Spy Probe Focuses on Two Lobbyists -Guardian
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=794973

not one Final Call link here. I posted an article from Jim Lobe that's all
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:19 AM
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6. Language, langauge. Here's another link:
Here's the cache of the story from the respected globalinfo.org, which ran it prior to Final Call picking it up. (globalinfo requires a subscription, but the stories can be viewed in the cache.)

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:07 AM
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3. I have no idea what Final Call is....but Jim Lobe is a top journalist,
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:09 AM by Gloria
writes for the Inter Press Service based in Italy and also Foreign Policy in Focus based here in New Mexico, which it an incredible site.
His pieces are frequently picked up in Asia Times Online.

So, don't knock Jim Lobe. He is an excellent reporter and also does good analysis pieces.

By the way, this article came out earlier, sometime during the last couple of weeks, before it ever got to Final Call.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:31 AM
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7. Apparently a touchy subject for some....
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 02:29 AM by Dover
eom
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:38 AM
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8. Better save your links
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:43 AM by DulceDecorum
Sometimes the mods pull posts with addresses that are not kosher.
In this case that will mean the loss of this entire thread.

But you can always repost in GD.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:06 AM
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9. What are you talking about?
Which addresses are not kosher and why?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. I say we talk about treason I don't care who happens to
commit it.

Just one thing theh Israelis do not control our policy any more than oh the Ruskies did... we have common interests at times, but they do not control our policies.

As to the traitors, I do not believe in the death penalty, except in one case, HIGH TREASON... why? The deterrent value for death penalty is not there, but anybody who betrays the trust of the nation, and due to their actiosn puts the rest of us at risk... deserves it.

I do not care if they sold secrets to the ruskies, the Israelis or the Syrians... or the Iranians...

Carry on./

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:12 AM
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11. Not LBN and source
This is really not LBN, but an analysis article. Additionally, your source ( Farrakhan sponsored site )is not appropriate for Democratic Underground.
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