U.S. Troops in Iraq Gather to Watch Fahrenheit 9/11

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

U.S. Troops in Iraq Gather to Watch Fahrenheit 9/11


The Christian Science Monitor reports that American troops in Iraq have vocalized the importance of their vote after gathering around screens for a viewing of Michael Moore's controversial 'Fahrenheit 9/11.'

'Everyone's watching it,' a Marine corporal told the CSM, speaking from an outpost in Ramadi that is mortared daily by insurgents. 'It's shaping a lot of people's image of Bush.'

>snip

According to one US soldier the view seems different from the field. ' 9 out of 10 of the people I talk to, it wouldn't matter who ran against Bush - they'd vote for them,' the soldier told CSM. 'People are so fed up with Iraq, and fed up with Bush.'

>snip

'We shouldn't be here,' one Marine infantryman bluntly told the CSM. 'There was no reason for invading this country in the first place. We just came here and and killed a lot of innocent people...I don't enjoy killing women and children, it's not my thing.'
>snip

The troops know the truth...they live it first hand. MKJ

edited to add link...sorry
http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Sep/EEN41530016714c3.html

[codegreen]

1. link?

[xultar]

2. AMEN!!! I'm shocked BushCo let F 911 sneak through. n/t

[ima_sinnic]

3. link, please, to this fabulous article (nt)

[leQ]

4. try this

Christian Science Monitor

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

5. Sorry, in a hurry to post, forgot link, in the post now. n/t

MKJ

[Imalittleteapot]

6. I'll wait for a link before I get excited about this post. n/t

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

7. Sorry, please see above

Had an "oops" moment. MKJ

[xultar]

10. You've never forgotten to hit ctrl c before you went to post ?

Or have you forgotten that you hit Ctrl C after you copied the link?

Come on we aren't all that perfect. We're liberals not hard as rethuglicans remember let's not beat up our teammates until after the election.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

21. Thanks Xultar.. and thanks for providing the additional link...

It has more of the original article than my link. I think we all walk the fine line between wanting to believe and skepticism. I appreciate your support. :-) MKJ

[xultar]

41. No Problem! Welcome to DU n/t

[xultar]

8. Another link here from Csmonitor

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0921/p02s02-usmi.html

WASHINGTON – Inside dusty, barricaded camps around Iraq, groups of American troops in between missions are gathering around screens to view an unlikely choice from the US box office: "Fahrenheit 9-11," Michael Moore's controversial documentary attacking the commander-in-chief.
"Everyone's watching it," says a Marine corporal at an outpost in Ramadi that is mortared by insurgents daily. "It's shaping a lot of people's image of Bush."

The film's prevalence is one sign of a discernible countercurrent among US troops in Iraq - those who blame President Bush for entangling them in what they see as a misguided war. Conventional wisdom holds that the troops are staunchly pro-Bush, and many are. But bitterness over long, dangerous deployments is producing, at a minimum, pockets of support for Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry, in part because he's seen as likely to withdraw American forces from Iraq more quickly.

snippity snip snip

Nobody I know wants Bush," says an enlisted soldier in Najaf, adding, "This whole war was based on lies." Like several others interviewed, his animosity centered on a belief that the war lacked a clear purpose even as it took a tremendous toll on US troops, many of whom are in Iraq involuntarily under "stop loss" orders that keep them in the service for months beyond their scheduled exit in order to keep units together during deployments.


" 9 out of 10 of the people I talk to, it wouldn't matter who ran against Bush - they'd vote for them," said a US soldier in the southern city of Najaf, seeking out a reporter to make his views known. "People are so fed up with Iraq, and fed up with Bush."

[clydefrand]

9. And they are tired of killing innocent women and

children...well, could this be some of those atrocities that our Sen. Kerry referenced so many years ago that aren't relevant today??? Bush should have to go fight his damn war.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

15. Good catch. N/T

[Sporadicus]

11. Forgetting to Add a Link Must Be Forgiven

considering the 'shock and awe' inspired by this article! Not in my wildest dreams would I have believed that F-9/11 would make its way to the troops in Iraq. Congratulations on breaking the fantastic news! :bounce:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

16. Thanks, I was impatient to get it out there,...

As a (noncombat) Army veteran, I knew that our troops would not blindly follow GWB to the ends of the earth, as the WH would like to believe. MKJ

[ArtVandaley]

12. I predicted about a year ago . . .

That regardless of who wins the election, Bush would lose the military vote. His complete contempt for the troops is truly appalling and I'm shocked that it isn't apparent to the American electorate.

[Sporadicus]

18. George? George Constanza? Is That You, Georgie?

Welcome to DU!

[ArtVandaley]

43. Haha, thanks

[stevielizard]

49. Welcome

I know you found DU on your importing/exporting travails between architect projects!

[louis-t]

51. You're an architect, right?

[Imalittleteapot]

13. Now I'm excited. Thanks. n/t

[Joanne98]

14. SUPPORT THE TROOPS BRING THEM HOME!!!!!!!!

[clydefrand]

17. I've been thinking for the last couple of days about the

families of our troops and how they will probably vote. I figure that if there are 100,000 troops in Iraq, that means many more hundreds of thousands of relatives back home who are not agreeing with the way things are going over there and the reasons their loved ones were sent there. There is no way Bush can win this election--that is legally.

[countmyvote4real]

25. Sadly, I’ve seen a few families that continue to support * and the war.

I think they’re in denial. And I can understand why... they don’t want to believe that their family member died for a false war. I don’t like to reflect on it too much because it breaks my heart and makes my blood boil.

[Pirate Smile]

19. I wish some more of the media would pick up this story.

[Nlighten1]

20. F' ing A.

That is right...the troops aren't stupid. After you have been shot at a few times most right thinking people will begin to question why it is they are getting shot at.

[alphafemale]

22. Michael Moore's name will appear side by side with other Heros...

In the future. TRUE patriots.

[TaleWgnDg]

23. who would have imagined?

that our military is allowing our troops to watch Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9-11?"

And the Christian Science Monitor quotes some of our troops as saying:

"Nobody I know wants Bush" . . . "This whole war was based on lies" . . . "There's no clear definition of why we came here (to Iraq)" . . . "We shouldn't be here" . . . "There was no reason for invading this country in the first place."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0921/p02s02-usmi.html

Indeed . . .

[tibbir]

24. Yeah, never in my wildest dreams

did I see that movie making it to Iraq.

[TaleWgnDg]

28. welcome to DU !

. . . . . . :toast:

[JohnOneillsMemory]

40. Hmm. The US military showed F9/11 to the troops? Sounds like a warning...

It seems odd but I suppose the rule-makers couldn't stop this movie since denying it to the troops would only raise more ruckus and delay the inevitable.

Perhaps the brass are disgusted and warning the ranks why they are really in Iraq to help them survive the bad situation.

[Rose Siding]

26. Here's the CSM link from Monday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=841643

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

30. Did a search...

using Michael Moore and/or Farhenheit 9/11 and didn't find it. The Google news item is about 8 hrs old. I try to be scrupulous in posting on this forum, not the best of luck tonight.

However....great article, great sentiment, I love our independent minded and brave soldiers. MKJ

:loveya:

[Rose Siding]

31. I think it's great to know

that another service has picked it up- I only posted the link in case there might be more details of interest, not as a "dupe" :hi:

[pacalo]

35. Thank you for this link. I found this CS article yesterday at

www.bushwatch.com (great site for finding all the day's headliness), & I didn't post it here because I figured it had already been posted. Wow -- it was posted Monday?! Nothing gets by DUers. :)

[Florida_Geek]

27. IMHO, when it hits Blockbusters

and other video outlets, * will lose more and more votes.

[leesa]

29. This is so encouraging. Thanks for the post. Now if only their votes are

not stolen from them. Rumsfeld's been trying to steal them for awhile now.

[marlakay]

32. I bet Mike fought for months to get it there

Yeah! I believe it is probably the officers more than enlisted that support Bush. They are pretty well paid. Luckily my son-n-law a officer in the air force is a dem, so is my daughter, they will both vote! They say other officers seem to be for Bush.

My daughter isn't very political but she and her husband met Bill Clinton at book signing a few months ago and proudly display his book. He talked to Kyle about being in the military. Kyle loves to talk about it.

[JusticeForAll]

46. Could they be viewing bootleg copies?

Internet acquaintances say they have viewed bootleg copies in the UK...I can't see our govt. authorizing actual distributed copies to air on a base.

Even if they are bootleg copies, MM probably not mind, so long as his message gets out, especially to overseas voters.

[UCLA Dem]

33. Isn't it nice to know that while Bush has "staying" the course

and demoralizing our soldiers in the process, that N. Korea is threatening Japan?

[Name removed]

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[G_j]

45. they really need to see "Uncovered" also

and "Unprecedented" would turn a few heads..

[JoFerret]

50. Send them copies through

Books for Soldiers website.http://www.booksforsoldiers.com/
They provide unit addresses for serving troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. send books, DVD's essentials and treats. The site has a list needed and requested items.

[laylah]

55. Forgive me please...

your lack of "bio" information leaves me suspicious...however, welcome to the freshest "air" on the planet.

Jenn

[leesa]

56. Why would you not believe that? Saddam's fight was only with a segment of

the population.

[Columbia]

58. Yes, the Shi'ites and Kurds, which consist of the majority segment

[Columbia]

57. Bullshit

[trueblew]

36. Truely Brave Men and Women

[WillyT]

37. Man... That Is Such Great News !!!

I really don't kmow what to say.

:cry:

[Merlin]

38. Exxxxxxcellent! Maybe there's hope for US yet!

This is a story to lighten the heart! Enlightenment is occurring in the heart of the darkness. People are finding truth! Damn! It's downright exciting! I thought all Americans ('cept for us Dems) had turned to fools. Maybe some haven't afterall.

[Katha]

39. Bump!

That article is really heartening.

Support the troops -- BRING THEM HOME!!!

[llmart]

42. They probably allowed the movie to be seen......

because they intend on tampering with the military ballots on the way to being counted. I just don't put anything past them. Didn't someone tamper with the postmarks on the overseas ballots last time?

[G_j]

44. I'm worried their votes will be tampered with

didn't the Pentagon just allow online voting?

[shadu]

47. This revelation is wonderful

great to hear some good news for a change

[Roy]

48. Send the troops more footage.......

Send them the footage of the joint session of congress feat. Allawi the puppet, and the taxpayer funded the Rose Garden campaign speeches.

[JoFerret]

52. Send them everything

Books for Soldiers has addresses for individuals and units and suggestions for goodies and necessities to make life a little more bearable.

[NVMojo]

53. glad to hear it ...

but how horrible to be over there and watch it and wonder how the rest of America could be so fooled.

I have friends who are teachers at DODDS schools in Okinawa on a marine base. They said military and US Civs alike want Bush out NOW!!!

He craps on the military just like he craps on 80% of the people living in America who aren't members of his Haves and Have Mores. B*stard!!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

54. Respect the rank, if you don't respect the man...

I remember this statement from my days in the Army...when I was dealing with idiot officers as an enlisted troop/NCO. MKJ

edited to add...our current CIC is the ultimate idiot officer...our troops recognize it, follow orders to the best of their abilities and will try to vote to bastard out as soon as possible. MKJ