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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 04:58 AM
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WP: Some Democrats See a Turning Point ("new aggressiveness")
Some Democrats See a Turning Point
Kerry Displaying New Aggressiveness

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 24, 2004; Page A06

One axiom of this campaign year is that whenever Iraq has dominated the news, President Bush has suffered politically. What Democrats and Republicans are asking this week is how much the latest bad news from Iraq will set back a president who emerged from his convention stronger than at any point in the general election.

Aides to John F. Kerry are suggesting that the Massachusetts senator has turned a corner with newly aggressive attacks on Bush's Iraq policies. It may be too early to declare that he has, but Kerry appeared more confident on the campaign trail this week in framing his differences with Bush on Iraq, and some Democrats believe he has weathered what could have become a decisive moment in the presidential contest.

"Ten days ago, we were at a huge fork in the road," said Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin. "This could have become 1988 and was a real moment of danger for the Kerry campaign. In a lot of ways, he's survived it and we're back to a very competitive race again."

Just how competitive is an open question, for while Kerry may have put himself in a stronger position to litigate Iraq with Bush in their upcoming debates, he carries scars from months of attacks that may be difficult to overcome, given the limited amount of time left....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45677-2004Sep23.html
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:38 AM
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1. Of course,
Bush is just ever stronger and more manly for having gotten us into this position in the first place. It makes no sense that he got us here and feels no heat at all whatsoever from the whore print press - only yesterday did David Gregory have th temerity to challenge whether we are safer or not to *'s face.

in my house, if my older brother hit me no matter what happened thereafter, he was in trouble, because I was so much younger. We stomped on this country and it fought back in the only way that these countries can - thru guerrilla war. What a surprise! Didn't anyone here ever wonder why the Israelis never ever massively attacked the captial city of any country which had invaded them over the years? Did they strafe and bomb Damascus, Cairo, or Amman? Of course not - it raises the game to a whole new level.
A level whihc no one wants to enter. When Poppy did baghdad in '91, they left the titular power structure in place to rein in the masses, effectively doing the police work for us. We had them well contained. What the hell went thru these guys' minds.

Not much.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:42 AM
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7. What the hell went thru these guys' minds.<<
Black gold.... Texas tea.....
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:59 AM
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2. Note the seed for future criticism....
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 06:25 AM by robbedvoter
Someone posted yesterday a newsletter from Imus that was saying that kerry talks too much about the war, misssing the opportunity to talk economy....
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:02 AM
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3. That's just fucking bullshit.
Goddammit.

There are ways to insulate against these dumbass' double standards. Democrats need to learn to get tough. Enough of this shit.

We should be KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF THESE GUYS RIGHT NOW.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:18 AM
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4. Screw that lunatic Imus
He's a prick from when I knew him in Atlantic City in the Seventies - he used to come down and do his show from the Boardwalk. He was a terrible putz and nasty to ordinary people.

You have to pick your friends carefully in this world - I ws wary when he started mean-mouthing * - you just can't trust him, he's schizy.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:23 AM
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5. Wow, what an idiotic statament that is. Criticize no matter what he does?
Ignore the people in the press, they have found an angle (Rove talking point) and they are going to beat it to death - even if it means that they become irrelevant. I don't watch any of that crap anymore so I could care less.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:52 AM
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9. And if he talked about the economy only then
Imus would blast him for not talking about Iraq and terrorism!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:11 AM
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10. Imus is a bilious old dry drunk.
Certainly, the last time he did "Billy Sol Hargis" was the culmination of his career. After that, he was post-shark jump.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:09 AM
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12. i suggest you tie the two together, and hammer on the fact that
bush has been dishonest every step of the way.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:25 AM
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6. Ramadan starts October 16
Last year, the islamist militants viewed that month of peace as the best time to blow themselves up.

The Bush junta is already laying down that the reason is to prevent a Bush victory Nov 2.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:01 AM
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11. Note that the most "effective" of the guerrillas in Iraq...
...they are not "Islamists" at all. They are secularist nationalists. The fundamentalists have not shown the capacity to wage armed struggle on the same level as the nationalists.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:05 AM
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13. right,
I would think the Islamists are the one bombing civilians and the nationalists are the ones doing the targeted assassinations.

But if anybody knows for sure what groups are behind what, they're sure not telling us.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:46 AM
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8. let's go crazy! let's get nuts! bush is toast and we'll just keep on
jammin' on, and let him be a klutz!

watch bush fall on his face again just before the debates. it'll be a hoot and a half! 8^)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:40 PM
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14. Kerry is on a roll
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:40 PM by JoFerret
....here's to keeping the pressure on. He is taking the fight to Bush on terra and then after the softening up on Iraq earlier he can KO punch with the same theme on the economy and the budget. BushWorld of illusion, delusion and incompetence.
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