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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:27 PM
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Bush: Kerry Wrongly Questions Allawi
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=1&u=/ap/20040924/ap_on_el_pr/bush

Democrat John Kerry wrongly questioned the credibility of the interim Iraqi leader, and "you can't lead this country" while undercutting an ally, President Bush (news - web sites) said Friday.

Bush and interim Iraqi prime minister Ayad Allawi had hopeful words for the future of Iraq a day earlier, which Kerry characterized as putting the "best face" on a Bush administration policy in Iraq that has gone wrong.

"This brave man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America," Bush said at a campaign event in battleground Wisconsin. "And Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Mr. Allawi's credibility. You can't lead this country if your ally in Iraq feels like you question his credibility."

Phil Singer, a spokesman for the Democratic nominee, said the president is trying to change the subject. "George Bush has failed to be upfront with the American people about what's going on in Iraq, offering fantasyland descriptions of the situation on the ground," he said. "Facts can be stubborn things and when there's a gap between the reality and the words coming out of the White House, we are going to point them out."

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Blow it out your ASS, Bush!!!! :grr:
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:29 PM
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1. Nice to see some message discipline!
The Clinton Crew is in full effect, boyeeeee.

-MR
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:33 PM
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5. I like the quick, solid response.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:30 PM
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2. Rebut
Half of our allies question Bush's credibility, and he thinks HE can lead?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:15 PM
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14. Half? I think it is more than that.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:31 PM
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33. what allies?
costa rica & nepal are out.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:32 PM
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3. He made yet another Freudian slip in is blathering
"My opponent says we'd be safer if Saddam was still in power and if we didn't go into Iraq"...."I agree, i mean i disagree". I watched some of that koolaid seminar and maybe I'm just too hopeful but there wasn't hardly the enthusiasm from this crowd that he normally gets.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:32 PM
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4. Is Allawi the new messiah of Iraq? Should we expect him to...
...part the waters on the Tigrus and Euphrades Rivers? Well, read this and see what you think:

<snip>
US media covers for Allawi—Washington’s executioner-in-chief in Iraq
By James Conachy
22 July 2004

On July 17, two of Australia’s leading daily newspapers, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age, published the testimony of two unnamed Iraqi men who claim to have witnessed the interim prime minister, Iyad Allawi, shoot and kill at least six prisoners at the Al-Amariyah security center in Baghdad. The murder of the suspected anti-US insurgents was reportedly carried out in mid-June, in the presence of Iraq’s interior minister and American military personnel, among others.

<link> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/alla-j22_prn.shtml
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 09:00 PM
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18. Allawi murdered all over Europe back in his Baathsterd days
Allawi, like his cousins, the Chalabis, is Shiite, but the Shia Ayatollah Sistani seems to want nothing to do with any of them. Allawi, a former CIA operative, will just be another SHAH-like puppet for big oil. I fear the "new boss" we select for Iraq will be just like the "old boss"!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:34 PM
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6. You mean, like what Bush did to France?
Wasn't France an ally?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:37 PM
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8. Germany too
And Canada. And so many others, sheesh, he's being such a hypocrite!!! But what else is new.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:40 PM
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21. He really dissed them
and then his people called them surrender monkeys
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:35 PM
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7. Is Allawi an ally or a puppet??
Or does that even make a difference to Bush and his sheep??
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:53 PM
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9. They are one and the same in Bush's mind
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:43 PM
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17. What Bush REALLY said - "Allawi is ah, ah...A LIE..."
Mere coincidence that "a lie" sounds like "ally".
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:58 PM
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10. what a load--they are trying so hard to turn America into a Soviet State
where citizens are forbidden to criticize the leaders. They have success with a few terrified zombies, but the rest of us aren't going to take this sort of thing lying down!
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Richardson08 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:03 PM
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11. Allawi is really Baghdad Bob
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:09 PM
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12. As long as he doesn't question our allies cred
The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/2002091...

Oh wait he did that?????
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:12 PM
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13. This blurb about Wisconsin in the article... where Bush made remarks..
"Wisconsin is one of the few battleground states that has gained jobs since Bush took office. The unemployment rate is up nearly a percentage point, but Labor Department (news - web sites) records show a gain of 200 jobs since January 2001. "

200 jobs since 2001??? TWO HUNDRED JOBS???? And the article states that Bush is AHEAD 10 points in Wisconsin? Must be something in the cheese, because a job gain of 200 in 3 years should be something to be ANGRY about.. not something to use as an excuse to re-elect Bush.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:25 PM
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15. Please tell Mr Bush to go Cheney himself
The leader of Iraq is Ali al-Sistani.

The Iraqis don't need our version of democracy. They already know who their leaders are. They have already chosen their clerics and religious leaders.

We can put in as many puppets as we want, but Iraq will never have peace. Only until we let the Iraqi people have their country back and recognize al-Sistani as the real leader of the Iraqi people, will the Iraqis begin to rebuild their society.

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 03:43 PM
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16. ....there we go.....he comes out with it....
"...a free Iraq, which HELPS AMERICA". What does he mean here, helps America? So far, I've seen are expenses. A budget deficit that's as big as the Grand Canyon.

Lots of bloodshed. Lots of hatred around the world directed at us. Little reward.

So come on, George. Out with it. Tell us what you REALLY mean.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 09:07 PM
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19. So it's not only unpatrioutic to question bush
but it's also unpatriotic to question other world leaders.

That's good to know.

:eyes:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:08 AM
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24. only the designated leaders!
n/t
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:55 AM
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29. D'oh!
Good Point :)
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:07 PM
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20. Undercutting an ALLY?
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 10:08 PM by Carolab
So now, Iraq is an "ally"? Ally-awi? WTF?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:51 PM
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22. He read the same propaganda you do, DUB!!! For the love of money,...
,...you do go on and on while I make sure to move all my shoes out of reach to ensure an anger management (non-destructive) program,...you could not handle.

BTW

I am creating a really BIG punching bag that will have a sign above it stating "All civilized people believe in anger management" and below it stating "TAKE YOUR BEST SHOT" with the punching bag having written on it "BEAT BUSH"!!!

:bounce:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:05 AM
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23. "failed to be upfront" = lying
gotcha~!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:09 AM
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25. Awwwwwwwwwww!
Guess the media whores are gonna have to work double-time now. They got their new orders today: now they have to protect Bush AND Allawi.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:42 AM
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26. Allawi pooh-poohs Iraq carnage
Iraq's prime minister said `There are no problems. It's safe. It's good' as he tried to build US trust in his regime's leadership

It may have seemed odd that interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi spent a few of his precious first minutes at the White House giving reporters a geography lesson.

But just as he came to Washington to erase voters' doubts about US President George W. Bush's dogged determination to keep fighting in Iraq, Allawi also was seeking credibility for his own leadership, with an eye toward elections in his country come January.

That meant convincing the American power structure that he's got everything under control.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/09/25/2003204294
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:48 AM
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27. Allawi should go for a walk in Iraq
Without his battalion of mercenaries to protect him. He would find out how safe and good it is, quite quickly.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:27 AM
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30. I bet he is transported via a Bradley and not even to ride in a car.
Mark my words!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:51 AM
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28. "You can't lead this country while questioning an ally"?
Isn't that almost like saying, "You can't have democracy if you question it's leader?", or isn't it like the UNDERSCORE which explains why bush wants no questions of his leadership in his own political rallies? I mean, how can he, in his mind, lead this country if he, the leader, is at all questioned on his leadership!!!!
I mean, the man just painted a subliminal portrait of himself as a DICTATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:06 AM
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31. Kerry needs to point out that there are millions of Americans who
firmly believe that neither Bush nor Allawi are being truthful about Iraq and that when Bush attempts to attack Kerry for saying so BUSH ACTUALLY IS ATTACKING ALL OF THOSE AMERICANS.

Every time the republicans play the Hatriotism card the democrats need to point out that they are attacking millions of Americans.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:54 AM
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32. Those millions of Americans don't matter in Bush's mind
He needs to be reminded that he is president of ALL Americans, not just the ones he agrees with. Let's remind him on November 2nd.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:48 PM
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34. Bush: Quit picking on mini-me!
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:45 PM
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35. How about we call him "AYAM APUPPET" instead?
It rolls off the tongue the same way.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 02:01 PM
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36. 250 anti-Bush* protesters in Janesville, Wisconsin?!
That's GREAT!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:38 PM
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37. Boosh don't like nary a none of them there questions. eom
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:49 PM
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38. Sort of like bush questioning South Korea in front
of our whole country (when the South Korean President was here shortly after bush took office) and made a complete fool out of himself and destroyed the ongoing negotiations between N.& S. Korea - all because Powell had said "we're going to follow the Clinton policy" That was a disgrce. What Kerry said isn't.
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