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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:25 PM
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Falluja doctors decry attacks on civilians
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/25D76053-DC47-40AC-9736-07AE87F94E9A.htm


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However, Falluja medical sources are bitterly disputing US claims and saying that their hospital wards are being filled with dead and wounded women and children.

"The death toll has just risen to eight after a child died of wounds it sustained from the air strikes and another 17 wounded, including four children and two women," Dr Rafia al-Issawi, director of Falluja General Hospital, told Aljazeera.

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"I wonder why officials at the Iraqi health ministry do not come to see the number of frequent casualties. Will the Iraqi government send a delegation to inspect casualties in Falluja hospital and see the repeated tragedy or shall Fallujans bear the consequences?"

"I have nine children in the children's from yesterday's and today's bombing," he said.

"Every day we receive women, children and elderly people and I confirm that casualties, at least all those I have received at the hospital, were civilians," he added.





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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:30 PM
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1. See! Awoli & Allawi Lie!
It is not going well in Iraq! And tragic shit like this only leads to making it MUCH MUCH WORSE!
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:55 PM
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14. good one "Awoli" = *
LOL yea he's an AWOL-i alright ...

Awoli & Allawi
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 03:08 PM
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34. Too funny!!!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:31 PM
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2. How is this atrocity different than the one just committed in the Russian
school? Tell me again how this doesn't "count" as a terrorist act?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:58 PM
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3. because it is AmeriKans doing it....
sadly... :(
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AmanAplanKerry Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:06 PM
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4. Did they have any input against the car bombers killing innocents?
Or the beheadings? Do they approve of the other killings done by the IED terrorists?
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:07 PM
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5. see my signature
nuff said
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AmanAplanKerry Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:14 PM
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6. Nobody is forced to target and kill innocents
Terrorists are sick people that enjoy killing. Nobody makes them do their dirty deeds.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:16 PM
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8. So what do we do about it then
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 10:17 PM by shpongled
Make more people want to be terrorists?

Well that has to be about the stupidest thing anyone could possibly do. And wouldn't you know it - thats EXACTLY what we have done!

What wonderful leadership. We should all be proud.

STEADFAST STUPIDITY.
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AmanAplanKerry Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:41 PM
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12. What should we do
Educate these fragile minds before they are poisoned by crazed fanatics. Bring democracy to their countries and toss out the dictators and fundamental morons and terrorists.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:10 AM
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15. Start more illegal wars, you mean?
We've got enough fragile minds in this country that sorely need enlightenment.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:12 AM
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19. Sounds like a good plan
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 06:16 AM by muriel_volestrangler
The fundamental morons who think that bombing residential areas in Fallujah is going to decrease the number of insurgents should be the first to go. That means the idiots in charge of the US military there (or maybe it's Rumsfeld - just have him sacked in the US). The dictator Allawi should be gone in a few months, if any elections are held - he has no support from Iraqis. His successor will have to tell Negroponte and his gang to sod off, if he wants any chance of keeping the support of his people. That should also take care of the crazed economic fanatics trying to turn Iraq into a free market experiment.

The terrorists will have to be stopped with the support of the majority of the Iraqi population. The problem is now that people who go into the Iraqi police of National Guard may be regarded as collaborators with the invaders - and so become targets for the terrorists, which makes it difficult to stop those same terrorists (American, and probably any other foreign, troops can't do this - they are targets, and their attempts at capturing terrorists create just as many new ones as they take). If the invasion of Iraq hadn't been followed by the unsubtle American grab for Iraqi assets (sell off of state companies, 14 permanent US bases, dubious use of the oil revenue, pots of money to Halliburton and others, immunity for mercenaries), and the horrors of Rumsfeld's Abu Ghraib (for that he should be prosecuted), then the average Iraqi wouldn't hate the US government or anyone who works with them so much, and Iraq would be in better shape.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:27 AM
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20. the US is full of "fundamental morons"....
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 07:29 AM by leftchick
the idiot* in the WH being the first one that comes to mind. ( it would be FUNDAMENTALIST btw, but I digress.) You can not "bring democracy" with bombs, it has the exact opposite effect.
Now shoooo.....
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:29 AM
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22. "Fragile minds"? n/t
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:08 AM
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29. Looks like you are a member of the exclusive Bush lala land club
Snap! Wake up!
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:17 PM
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33. Welcome to DU?
Edumacate youself PLEEZE!:hi:
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:44 PM
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13. Yeah, and maybe the little kids are terrorists too,
'cause even a 3-year-old can be taught to throw a grenade, right? Or maybe we should just blow them away now because they MIGHT grow up to be real grownup terrorists later.

Is that why, what with all the "precision" bombing, so many kids are getting blown apart?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:28 AM
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21. Um, that isn't happening in Fallujah...
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 07:28 AM by Darranar
since the US forces there withdrew a long time ago.

The killing in Fallujah right now is due to US strikes on civilians.

And since when does one need to condemn every atrocity in order to condemn one? The human race has enough of them that by the time the person listing them was finished, he or she would be dead.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:15 PM
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7. Ahhhh. Look at the little terrorist. Isn't he cute? eom
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:17 PM
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9. Oops!! Wasn't he cute!!?
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darknesstolight Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:20 PM
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10. It looks bad
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 11:03 PM by darknesstolight
It looks bad
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:21 PM
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11. wtf?
Smoke another one ?
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:15 AM
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16. more scenes of the aftermath from the recent 'terrorism'
the terrorist command center targetted:


a senior al-Qa`idah commander, wounded in the precision strike, is carried away from the scene:


his accomplice:


their comrades in the service of evil:


these and 10 more available by clicking this link.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:18 AM
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17. one more for the hell of it--the 'aww dude!' dedicational shot
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 04:18 AM by Aidoneus


Surprised that this group of people gathered here wasn't bombed afterwards, like the newest videogame preview--'AWW DUDE!'--displays.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:35 AM
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23. More progress in the glorious liberation of Iraq. n/t
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:21 AM
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18. We can't do this ..
This is gigantic negative Karma. There will be Hell to Pay.
May I suggest the collateral?
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:22 AM
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24. I saw on TV news this exact scene as children were being pulled out
of this hole but this Yahoo/AP story doesn't report that. Talk about bias lying GOP Media!


Local residents try to rescue survivors from the rubble of a razed building in Fallujah, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday Sept. 25, 2004. U.S. warplanes, tanks and artillery units bombed the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah on Saturday, killing at least eight people and wounding 15, hospital officials and witnesses said. (AP Photo/Bilal Hussein)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040925/481/bag12709251523
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:27 AM
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25. An Iraqi man screams as he carries his wounded son, following a U.S. army
An Iraqi man screams as he carries his wounded son, following a U.S. army bombardment in the town of Falluja, early morning on September 25, 2004. U.S. aircraft launched air strikes on targets in the rebel-held Iraqi city of Falluja, and local doctors said at least seven people were killed and 13 wounded, including women and children. The U.S. military said it had carried out a 'precision strike' on a building where supporters of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi were believed to be meeting. (Mohammed Khodor/Reuters)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040925/photos_wl/mdf707452
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:33 AM
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26. A better angle for Bush to place his portrait on his Oval Office desk
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040925/photos_wl_me_afp/040925163549_2i8txbek_photo0

Seriously I know aWol doesn't care anything about how many Iraqis or even Ameircan die in Iraq. He only cares about the number of Americans dead and amputated to the point if it could effect the number of votes he gets. That's his only concern there. All Americans hold the death and murder aWol has unleased in a his lie. Especially the Fundimentalist Christians who vote for aWol! God does NOT accept ignorance as an excuse!

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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:02 AM
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27. Iraqi doctor's - the invisible
George Bush and his minions to include the new Iraqi puppet government set up by his administration keep spouting how wonderful things are going and all the amazing things that are being done for the Iraqi's instead of what is being done to the Iraqi's.

Iraqi doctor's who barely struggled through the Saddam atrocities in attempting to treat their paients (who also used the best of their supplies to treat Jessica Lynch), now find themselves with thousands of Iraqi wounded from American attacks and they now even have fewer facilities and less medical equipment.

This mornings paper states that Iraqi professionals are fleeing Iraq. Who will be left to lead this new democracy????

It is unbeleivable that the majority of Americans are so uninformed as to what is happening in Iraq and can still support George W. Bush. It's a case of it's not in my back yard and what I don't see and can't hear isn't real.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:08 AM
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28. From an Iraqi Journalist in Falluja....
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Abu Bakr al-Dulaimi said "US forces always claim the targeted sites host followers of al-Zarqawi, but they are citizens' residences".

Reuters Television pictures showed rescuers pulling survivors out of the ruins of a destroyed house. Two women and one young child were among those rescued from the rubble.



The Iraqi journalist further said the city's officials had been trying to solve the crisis.

"They believe the US raids are planned operations that come to avenge the citizens' resistance against the US forces," al-Dulaimi added.


The US is acting like the terrorists...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:07 PM
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30. too bad he wasn't a fetus....
then chimpass* would have spared him....




A wounded Iraqi boy waits inside an ambulance at the restive city of Fallujah. US airstrikes on rebel-held Fallujah left 15 dead while an insurgent attack in another troubled Sunni Arab town killed 10 more, as Britain and Egypt stepped up efforts to secure the release of hostages in Iraq (news - web sites).(AFP/Fares al-Dlimi
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:41 PM
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31. Eye witnesses in Falluja have claimed
The witnesses have also added that the local police have arrived to the
scene and have prevented the civilians and journalist from approaching the
grave and photographing the dead bodies.

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=3505
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:55 PM
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32. These folks sure look like terrorists



An Iraqi man screams as he carries his wounded son, following a U.S. army bombardment in the town of Falluja, early morning, September 25, 2004. REUTERS/Mohammed Khodor (http://makeashorterlink.com/?M15522169)
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