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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:41 AM
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Insurgency worsening in Iraq: Powell
<US Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday that the insurgency in Iraq "is getting worse" and that "we will have to increase our efforts to defeat it."

"They are determined to disrupt the electon," Powell told ABC television of the insurgents.

"Because it's getting worse, we will have to increase our efforts to defeat it," he said.

Powell's remarks contrasted with the rosy picture of growing stability in Iraq painted by interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi during his visit here last week to address the US Congress and meet with President George W. Bush.

While the two leaders acknowledged the unrest that has rocked Iraq, Allawi on Thursday had vowed that elections would proceed as planned in January and insisted: "We are succeeding in Iraq. It's a tough struggle with setbacks, but we are succeeding.">

http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=Cqvy:WeiemZKXnuLUC3vYz2vUy3L3B3jZzq
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:53 AM
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1. Is Powell not on the memo distribution list?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:56 AM
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2. Powell is crap

This afternoon he will be kissing his Master and giving him a big bear hug.

You can tell that Bush hates Powell. Yet Powell keeps up the front.

I am beginning to believe that the only way they could keep Powell from running for President was to say his wife was "crazy."

Then they agreed to give him any position he wanted and they did.

Well, he sold his soul to the devil and he can go to Hell.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:26 AM
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3. I saw it. It was helpful to deflect some of Bush's rhetoric
We probably shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Any statements by republicans on Iraq that contradict the rosey scenario are gifts at this stage in the race.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:42 AM
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5. agree
we shouldn't depend on them or consider them on our side. but anything they say that does not help bush is something we should use for all we can.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:16 PM
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11. Absolutely true. Powell is NOT our friend. Simply because he cast his
lot with the Devil should prove that. Simply because he went ahead with that charade at the UN, simply because he bet his integrity and reputation on these liars and double-crossers - who'd cheerfully knife him in the back if they thought it would further the goals of their little dauphin. Powell has been cuckolded by these people. Cuckolded and neutered. He's nothing but a eunuch who sold his soul to the Devil. It's a shame. Unfortunately, he has no one else to blame but the guy staring back at him in the bathroom mirror every morning. He didn't have to sign up with this bunch of brigands.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:53 PM
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10. But it's fallen down the memory hole already.
Only place I heard any mention of it was as the lead story on the BBC World Service.

Everybody else has Hurricane-on-the-Brain...

And are you READY for some FOOTBALL!?!?!?!?!?!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:40 AM
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4. How's that for iron-clad unity?
Iyad Allawi: "Yes, Iraq is safe. Except for some parts of Baghdad. Of course, some part of Fallujah. Otherwise, very safe, yes".

Bush: "Peace and prosperity is growing, day by day. Iraqis are moving forward peacefully".

RumsFailed: "We may need to leave Iraq".

Kerry: "Iraq has become an inferno".

Cheney: "You cannot negotiate with the enemy. You must destroy it".

**How's that for unity? :smoke:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:07 PM
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6. "Disrupt the election"? Is it all about Bush, then, or is there
something else? What makes Powell think that the elections are on anyone's minds, just because Bush has decided to make it HIS talking point?

Fact is, Powell and the US hasn't got a clue as to who is killing in Iraq, why, or how to stop them. That's what makes it a quagmire.
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allemand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:49 PM
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9. Looks like the old struggle between Powell and Rumsfeld/(Cheney?)
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 01:09 PM by allemand
The State Department wants elections in Iraq in January (probably to create some form of legitimacy), whereas the Pentagon seems to have second thoughts about it (perhaps they are afraid their guys might lose).

Juan Cole:
"In the map below I made the present security-challenged provinces red, and those that saw recent heavy fighting purple. I ask you if this looks like the problems are in "3 of 18 provinces," or whether it looks to you like elections held only in the white areas (as Donald Rumsfeld seems to envision) would produce a legitimate government:



<...>

Moreover, not having elections in al-Anbar and West Baghdad would be a disaster. The red areas are where the Sunni Arab former ruling minority is situated. They are the backbone of the guerrilla war. If they feel unrepresented by the new government, what incentive do they have to cease their warfare?

On the other hand, if the elections are not held or if their results are widely considered illegitimate, there is a danger that that result will radicalize Sistani and cause him to bring the masses into the street.

Odysseus had to steer between the two monsters of Scylla and Charybdis. So to does the US in Iraq."
http://www.juancole.com/2004_09_01_juancole_archive.html#109600879850724698

Ed. to add information.

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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:13 PM
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7. This paragraph is the best!
Powell's remarks contrasted with the rosy picture of growing stability in Iraq painted by interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi during his visit here last week to address the US Congress and meet with President George W. Bush.


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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:22 PM
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8. The answer to all the problems is to have al Zarqawi run for president
in January.

Bring the troops home NOW.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:20 PM
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12. BAD Colin! Everything is going SUPERB in Iraq!
Flowers and candy, dammit!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:37 PM
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13. Is Powell trying to embolden the enemy?
sending those mixed messages? :eyes:
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