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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:17 AM
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Bush's New Ads Slam Kerry's Iraq Comments
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=2&u=/ap/20040927/ap_on_el_pr/bush_6

President Bush's campaign, setting the stage for this week's opening presidential debate on foreign policy, rolled out a new television ad Monday highlighting Democratic Sen. John Kerry's statements on the Iraq war.

"How can John Kerry protect us when he doesn't even know where he stands," the ad asks.

It shows quick snippets of the Democrat's comments on the war, including "the winning of the war was brilliant," and "It's the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time."

The Bush campaign is trying to portray Kerry as an indecisive candidate who shouldn't be trusted to serve as commander in chief.

The Kerry campaign responded, "George Bush hasn't been straight with the American people about Iraq and he isn't being straight with them about John Kerry." Said spokesman Phil Singer, "The Bush campaign's misleading, false ads are aimed at covering up the wrong choices George Bush has made in Iraq and the fantasyland descriptions he uses to cover up his failure to deal with the violence on the ground."
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:19 AM
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1. great job of bringing the focus back to BUSH'S failures
rather than getting caught up in trying to debate or explain things as if the republicans have honestly misunderstood what Kerry said.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:39 AM
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8. They are just trying to keep their base
I can't imagine other people find it entertaining.

But it's they only way they can attack Kerry.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:25 AM
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2. Great response from the campaign!!
Although, I would like to see Kerry address this stupid flip/flop thing in a clear & simple way for the simpleminded among us.

There has to be a nice soundbite way to explain the 87 billion? He sponsored a bill to do this without raising the deficit for Cheney sake.


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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:37 AM
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7. The best way to discredit the flip flop nonsense is to
make it a part of the larger dishonest picture of Shrubya. Everything Dub says is a self serving lie including how he portrays John Kerry.
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:41 AM
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9. Teresa had an excellent response
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 11:52 AM by JusticeForAll
Unfortunately it was not the soundbite we are looking for but if someone had the patience to listen and think for 15 seconds, it works:

Not her words, but same meaning: Kerry was in favor of 60B of the funding, but did not support a blank check for the reamaining 17B. Companies such as Halliburton has already received no-bid contracts and this was only a door to open the way for more.

I wish I had the link for this...It was in the thread titles something like: Teresa H-K responds to heckler
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:29 AM
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3. Mr. President, YOU can't protect us, and I DO know where you stand!
:headbang:
rocknation
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:29 AM
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4. Powell: Iraq is getting worse (from today)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:30 AM
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5. LINK to the ad-not as bad as I espected I guess Kerry has been straight on
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:34 AM
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6. Of course, you can watch the ad here.
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:51 AM
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10. Wow this ad is great
The one quote that stands out if I'm watching it:

"It's the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time"

Way to go Bush-Checney 04!! Get the word out!!

I consider this nice free advertising from our opponents. I also love the fact that the Bush campaign makes the same mistake as Kerry's campaign by not vocalizing their main message in the ad at the end....what you effectively end up with is 20 seconds of Kerry speaking and the truth that he speaks slowly sinking in to the subconsciousness!

I hope they bought lots of ad time...actually hearing these soundbites finally allows voters to ask "why did he vote for the funding then vote against it?" There must be a good reason.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:32 PM
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11. I hope this ad is seen by a lot of people!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:35 PM
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12. I hate to say it: this ad will work
The ease with which this ad makes Kerry look silly is frightening, even astonishing.

Kerry, outwardly supportive of the war while retaining the option to blast Bush if things went wrong, blew it on Iraq from the start.

This is not his fault alone. There's a larger context: Kerry's DLC brethren largely agree with the neo-con outlook on the Middle East. Over Iraq, the chief difference was not why or if but how to invade, with the neo-liberals insisting on "internationalism," which simply meant getting Europe to help fund and man the unnecessary invasion. To topple Saddam, they were as ready as Donald Rumsfeld to believe in neo-con delusions. Hence Kerry's goofy line, quoted in the ad, "I have always said we may yet even find weapons of mass destruction," evoking the myth in which only a relative handful of people on earth believed, and which all informed critics and the vast majority of the planet properly rejected.

I hope future Democratic candidates will not do as much in behalf of right wing wars of conquest; that will be better for everyone, and it will even help them win elections.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:33 PM
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13. Kerry's been consistent in what his vote was for
Bush will be made to look silly.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:07 PM
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14. Bush will look silly... Just like the Swift Boat Vets would "backfire?"
The only person that this ad is going to harm is John Kerry. It doesn't matter if he has been consistent about his vote because Kerry has allowed Bush campaign ads to define him from the beginning.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:16 PM
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15. Yep. Bush has given more reasons for this war than anyone
and he lied about all of them.
This ad takes Kerry out of context. Heck- we haven't even seen the ad where Bush tells us "we can't win the war on terror".
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:18 PM
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16. I wish we would see an ad listing Bush's flip flops. n/t
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