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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:26 PM
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Schwarzenegger signs bills moving primary, requiring paper trail
Schwarzenegger signs bills moving primary, requiring paper trail

STEVE LAWRENCE, Associated Press Writer
Monday, September 27, 2004


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(09-27) 19:17 PDT SACRAMENTO (AP) --

California is conceding defeat in its quest for more clout in picking presidential nominees and going back to its traditional June primary election.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed legislation Monday that will move the primary from the first Tuesday in March to the first Tuesday after the first Monday in June, a date the state used for 50 years.

The Republican governor also signed several other election-related measures, including a bill that will bar the use of electronic voting machines that don't produce paper trails to verify votes.


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Schwarzenegger also signed a bill by Johnson and Sen. Don Perata, D-Oakland, that will require electronic voting machines to have a paper trail, starting in 2006.

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Schwarzenegger also signed bills that will:
* Allow the secretary of state, local election officials or the attorney general to file lawsuits against persons or companies suspected of tampering with voting equipment.


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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/09/27/financial2217EDT0203.DTL
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:31 PM
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1. amazing.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:05 AM
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8. Well, he must have gotten a call from Ted
I have to admit, I am pleasantly surprised.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:38 PM
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2. What got into him?
Fallout from the convention appearance in his polls maybe? * isn't going to like this.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:42 PM
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3. Why would Bush even care?
The paper trail law starts in 2006.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:43 AM
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4. When does the tampering lawsuit bill go into effect?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:45 AM
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7. Yes. If Bu$h steals this election with evoting, there will be no more
elections.
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:13 AM
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13. Why would Bush even care?"
"The paper trail law starts in 2006."


Exactly, many of the special laws being passed today giving the administration more power will expire after the bush coward leaves. The republicans do not want to risk giving the democrats the same kind of powers the republicans enjoy now. However, just as with Nixon, eventually some good person will come forward to save America from these liars protecting the bush coward.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:04 AM
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5. Credit where credit is due
Good for him!

One cheer for Ahnold!

RAH!

--bkl
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:03 AM
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12. Agreed......... but still kick him out... N/T
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:41 AM
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6. a paper trail is no cure-all
Long before computers came along, paper fraud was THE way to fix an election.

That, and cemetery rosters.

Schwarzenegger was just doing something politically safe to appear moderate and 'fair', and yet, risked nothing.

Paper trail = bogus cure for BBV. You are only fooling yourself if you think this was progress.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:13 PM
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17. might not be a cure-all, but it is better than nothing --
a paper trail cannot prove validity, but it can show discrepancies.
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:05 AM
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9. he's still a scumbag.
i'll give him credit on these, but last week was not a good week for the poor and underpriveleged in this state. he vetoed a lot of good bills and signed a lot of bad ones.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 03:14 AM
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10. Cheers to arnie
I will give the 'devil his due' and unlike the repigs I will acknowledge when the other side does something right. :thumbsup:
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hellbound-liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:57 AM
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11. Geez, if you guys even fall for these empty gestures, we're in trouble
two points that bear repeating: a paper trail is not a cure-all for voter fraud and the election will have already been stolen by 2006. Who knows what new measures will have been taken by the Repugs to maintain control for years to come. Sorry, der Gropenfuhrer doesn't get any credit doing the right thing as far as I am concerned.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:36 AM
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14. Falling? Au Contraire!
Giving a single cheer for Schwartzenegger is a far cry from saying he should be governor at all, let alone get a second term.

There's nothing wrong with recognizing when he does something constructive. But don't mistake it for an embrace of anything Republican.

--bkl
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:54 AM
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15. Yeah, however
this thread would have 10 times as many responses if he had vetoed the bills, all slamming him. I am no fan of Arnie, but small steps in the right direction.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:06 PM
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16. I am not going
like the repigs and come down on the guy with hate and bitterness over everything he does just because he is a repig. If arnie was a Democrat people here would be praising him all over the place for doing this but because he is a repig they jump on him. I will as I said before "give the devil his due" and say he did the right thing, it's not like I will ever vote for him cause I won't.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:15 PM
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18. Wonder how his party will punish him for this?
and he will be punished.

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