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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 09:56 PM
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Afghanistan, Iraq: Two Wars Collide (WP)
THE BUSH RECORD : War on Terrorism
Afghanistan, Iraq: Two Wars Collide

By Barton Gellman and Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, October 22, 2004; Page A01

In the second half of March 2002, as the Bush administration mapped its next steps against al Qaeda, Deputy CIA Director John E. McLaughlin brought an unexpected message to the White House Situation Room. According to two people with firsthand knowledge, he told senior members of the president's national security team that the CIA was scaling back operations in Afghanistan.

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Published and classified documents and interviews with officials at many levels portray a war plan that scored major victories in its first months. Notable among them were the destruction of al Qaeda's Afghan sanctuary, the death or capture of leading jihadists, and effective U.S. demands for action by reluctant foreign governments.

But at least a dozen current and former officials who have held key positions in conducting the war now say they see diminishing returns in Bush's decapitation strategy. Current and former leaders of that effort, three of whom departed in frustration from the top White House terrorism post, said the manhunt is important but cannot defeat the threat of jihadist terrorism. Classified government tallies, moreover, suggest that Bush and Vice President Cheney have inflated the manhunt's success in their reelection bid.

Bush's focus on the instruments of force, the officials said, has been slow to adapt to a swiftly changing enemy. Al Qaeda, they said, no longer exerts centralized control over a network of operational cells. It has rather become the inspirational hub of a global movement, fomenting terrorism that it neither funds nor directs. Internal government assessments describe this change with a disquieting metaphor: They say jihadist terrorism is "metastasizing."

more at
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52673-2004Oct21.html

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:02 PM
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1. Hey, WTF, no wonder President Bush changed his priorities....
...when he was debriefed with: "...Al Qaeda no longer exerts centralized control over a network of operational cells. It has rather become the inspirational hub of a global movement, fomenting terrorism that it neither funds nor directs. Internal government assessments describe this change with a disquieting metaphor: They say jihadist terrorism is 'metastasizing' ".

With words like those, Dubya had no fu*king idea what the CIA was saying! So he went after something he could understand....Iraq....Saddam....oil wells...no bid contracts...kickbacks!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:07 PM
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3. The Bush Criminals are good at this
Iraq....Saddam....oil wells...no bid contracts...kickbacks

Bribery****murder*****fomenting unrest****misleading the public
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:05 PM
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2. "an unexpected message to the White House Situation Room"
The WH wasn't even in CONTROL! The CIA was already movin' on!

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:50 AM
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4. Major, page-one article dissecting and analyzing "war on terror"...
including negative assessments by many who should know what they are talking about.
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:51 AM
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5. Great Article
In addition to showing how Iraq was indeed a distraction from fighting Al-Queda, it should challenge many people's perceptions about Iran.

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Unlikely Allies

Days after Bush declared an "axis of evil," one of its members dispatched an envoy to New York. Javad Zarif, Iran's deputy foreign minister, arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in the first week of February 2002 with a thick sheaf of papers. According to sources involved in the transaction, Zarif passed the papers to U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, who passed them in turn to Washington.

Neatly arranged inside were photos of 290 men and copies of their travel documents. Iran said they were al Qaeda members, arrested as they tried to cross the rugged border from Afghanistan. Most were Saudi, a fact that two officials said Saudi Arabia's government asked Iran to conceal. All had been expelled to their home countries.

"They did not coordinate with us, but as long as the bad guys were going -- fine," a senior U.S. national security official said.

Diplomats from Tehran and Washington had been meeting quietly all winter in New York and Bonn. They found common interests against the Taliban, Iran's bitter enemy. Iranian envoys notified their U.S. counterparts about the 290 arrests and proposed to cooperate against al Qaeda as well. The U.S. delegation sought instructions from Washington.

The delegation's room to maneuver, however, was limited by a policy guideline set shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks.

In late November 2001, the State Department's policy planning staff wrote a paper arguing that "we have a real opportunity here" to work more closely with Iran in fighting al Qaeda, according to Flynt Leverett, a career CIA analyst then assigned to State, who is now at the Brookings Institution and has provided advice to Kerry's campaign. Participants in the ensuing interagency debate said the CIA joined the proposal to exchange information and coordinate border sweeps against al Qaeda. Some of the most elusive high-value targets were living in or transiting Iran, including bin Laden's son Saad, al-Adel and Abu Hafs the Mauritanian.

Representatives of Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld fought back. Any engagement, they argued, would legitimate Iran and other historic state sponsors of terrorism such as Syria. In the last weeks of 2001, the Deputies Committee adopted what came to be called "Hadley Rules," after deputy national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley, who chaired the meeting. The document said the United States would accept tactical information about terrorists from countries on the "state sponsors" list but offer nothing in return. Bush's State of the Union speech the next month linked Iran to Iraq and North Korea as "terrorist allies."

Twice in the coming year, Washington passed requests for Tehran to deliver al Qaeda suspects to the Afghan government. Iran transferred two of the suspects and sought more information about others.

Iran, in turn, asked the United States, among other things, to question four Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay. They were suspects in the 1998 slayings of nine Iranian diplomats in Kabul.

Participants said Bush's divided national security team was unable to agree on an answer. Some believe important opportunities were lost.

"I sided with the Langley guys on that," Downing said. "I was willing to make a deal with the devil if we could clip somebody important off or stop an attack."

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