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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:08 PM
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Blackwell offers 'barnyard' take on gay marriage
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1098437854276131.xml

Secretary of State Ken Blackwell is under fire for saying that same-sex marriage is so absurd that it defies "barnyard logic."

That's a lot of bull, responded a gay-rights champion, who called Blackwell an expert in spreading "manure."

And a top Democrat wondered whether the comments represented "compassionate conservatism."

The flap began Tuesday night when Blackwell told members of a Toledo-area church, "I don't know how many of you have a farming background, but I can tell you right now that notion even defies barnyard logic . . . the barnyard knows better."

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:10 PM
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1. Well, coming from a sheep fucker, I guess he should know....
Asshole.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:11 PM
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2. I've seen two male dogs doing it, so what's his point exactly?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:22 PM
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26. Was one of them
...Triumph, the insult comic dog???

On an unrelated note, look around the web for the Triumph footage in Spin Alley. It is pantwettingly funny.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:11 PM
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3. Where's Lynne Cheney ? Where's Liz Cheney ?
If only we had their emails.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:21 PM
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11. they probably agree with him
that's why they didn't like what Kerry said. they equated it with Kerry saying she had a drug problem or some other negative thing.

that's why they say nothing with all the anti gay crap people like alan keyes, rick santorum and others throw out.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:32 PM
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14. You make an excellent point. It's as if they are afraid to admit it for
fear of losing the "moral" vote.
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:04 PM
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21. Most major Dems are afraid to support gay marriage for fear of losing
the centrist morality vote, and Repubs outrageously assail it to secure the morality vote. Dems are willing to sacrifice complete gay civil rights because they realize most gays will vote for them anyway. Repubs would rather have the morality vote than the gay vote anyway. Its bigger.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:13 PM
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4. Suppose
I should send him video of our two male cats doing it?
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:30 PM
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12. You should.
He may just enjoy it, considering he studied barnyard animals to such a degree that he could comment on it.

Seriously though, demeaning an entire group of people with a different sexual preference by implying that they are dumber than barnyard animals, who does this jerk think he is ?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:13 PM
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5. So Blackwell prefers polygamy?
One rooster has many hens. One bull impregnates many cows. One stallion mates with many mares.

Is Blackwell an old school Mormon? Why is he expressing preference for customs that violate the laws of the United States?
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:39 PM
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16. good point
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:15 PM
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6. I thought Mr. Blackwell was a fashion critic
wow things change in Hollywood over night .
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:15 PM
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7. Yanno ... I'm guessing that
Gandhi and Martin Luther King would never have invoked the 'barnyard analogy' when talking about homosexuals, however they may have felt personally about sexual orientation.

Kenny boy wants to compare himself to Gandhi and MLK (because he's said he'll go to jail rather than let people vote on provisional ballots, and he just might go to jail), his ass ought to freakin' act like Gandhi and MLK. Scumbag. I want to go to Columbus and throw salt on him to see if he dissolves.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:15 PM
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8. I grew up on a farm
It was not unusual to see female cows "riding" each other. Homosexuality and behaviour occurs in animals, it's a KNOWN fact. God, this guy is a moron!!!
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:16 PM
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9. Shit head
This is what he learned fucking sheep?

Paging Mr and Mrs Cheney.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:20 PM
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10. ha hahahahah ha
crazy man - let's once again follow the argument to its logical conclusion.

Year 2005, Ban Gay Marriage
Year 2006, Establish Law Requiring Marriage By 21 Children by 23
Year 2007, Establish Law Requiring infertile couples be re-assigned
Year 2008, Establish Law Requiring all un-marriageable people to give up property and voting rights.

etc. etc. etc.

What a fucking idiot. And he's a lawmaker and he used the word "sacred" in a sentence. What does sacred mean outside the context of religion? Oh wait a minute, there is no context outside of religion. What about a religion that promotes individuals AND marriage, whether mixed-sex or same-sex? Oh, I guess that's where he would pull the "mainstream" religion argument out of his ass.

These people are fucking crazy! Not a rational bone in them.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:31 PM
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13. Then assign wifes only to males who sign oaths to alegiance
Next logical 'barnyard' phase - breeding.
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:35 PM
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15. But Kerry is a bad bad man for saying those things about your daughter?
Right.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:48 PM
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17. What was the name of the book about homosexuality in nature?
Newsweek showed a picture in it of two male giraffe's "necking"! I think the word Nature was in the title. My two male cats love each other in every way.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:44 PM
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20. I think it was called "Ken Blackwell Is An Idiot"
I don't know really, but I do remember a good spot about penguins at the DC zoo on The Daily Show.
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Sentath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:26 PM
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23. Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity
Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity

Bruce Bagemihl
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:30 PM
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18. "That's a lot of bull, responded a gay-rights champion..."
defies barnyard logic... that's a lot of bull <--Nice rejoinder!!!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:40 PM
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19. I asked my sheep to marry me, but
she said, "baaaaaaaa"

Then I asked my horse to marry me, but she said, "Neigh"

With a baa, baa here and a neigh, neigh there, I'm kinda frustrated right now.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 06:27 PM
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22. There speaks a city boy
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 06:30 PM by geniph
Anyone who's ever actually spent time on a farm has seen male goats mounting each other, dogs humping each other with the bottom dog squealing, cows in heat trying to get it on with other cows, dominance mounting among pigs...and we won't even start with chickens.

I love people who twist facts to suit their preconceived notions without actually KNOWING any facts.

Whatta tool.

Plus, I knew a dog and cat who were interspecies homosexuals. They were both neutered males, and they loved each other. The dog regularly mounted the cat, and the cat put his tail to the side and purred. The owners got so embarrassed they separated the two, giving the cat to a relative. Both animals pined for each other to the point where they quit eating, so the owners finally relented and reunited them. They continued humping happily away until the dog died of old age, with the cat following him in a matter of weeks.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:20 PM
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29. Sigh.
"Plus, I knew a dog and cat who were interspecies homosexuals. They were both neutered males, and they loved each other. The dog regularly mounted the cat, and the cat put his tail to the side and purred. The owners got so embarrassed they separated the two, giving the cat to a relative. Both animals pined for each other to the point where they quit eating, so the owners finally relented and reunited them. They continued humping happily away until the dog died of old age, with the cat following him in a matter of weeks."

I so enjoy a good love story with a happy ending. :)

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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 01:01 AM
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32. At long last, the Forbidden Fables of Aesop have been discovered!
They must have been under a lava pile in Pompeii. Couldn't have come at a better time. Oops! ;-)
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:39 PM
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24. That giant sucking sound is Blackwells chances for Governor os Ohio,,,
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 07:40 PM by Norbert
going down the shit hole.

He must be taking lessons from Alan Keyes.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:19 PM
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25. Blackwell needs to shut up, just SHUT UP
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 09:20 PM by dallan
I'm sorry, but this ticks me off. I'm tired of people who aren't a certain way, commenting how another way is wrong for whatever thing in life they choose or feel naturally led to do when concerning happiness and love.



"now I'm gonna get me some happy" - g. michael "freedom"
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:03 PM
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27. Blackwell
Blackwell is a Bush puppet moron. This bastard is trying his damnedest to rig the election for Bush. I hope everyone remembers this when this inbred runs for governor of Ohio.
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:15 PM
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28. In the barnyard anything goes
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Clayt Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:15 PM
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30. WWCD? What Would a Chicken Do?
That's the criteria I use when confronted by a person of the same sex that I would like to bed.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 06:16 PM
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33. Hi Clayt!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:51 PM
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31. Does that mean we kill and eat all the men but the strongest?
That's what we used to do on the farm I worked on.

I also worked at a university farm studying homosexuality in sheep. It's very common even when breeding females are in the area.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:35 AM
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34. This guy is a black repuke
A man of color, a repuke? I got to question his ability to think. But, I think the subject of this thread shows why chimpie's share of black vote polls higher than previous elections. I think there is a anti gay vote in the black community.
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