Colin Powell is resigning

[peacemeal]

Just announced on Fox News - they said he announced it at a staff meeting this morning.

No link yet.

[thedailyshow]

1. looks like all the rats are leaving the sinking ship

[DeepModem Mom]

65. I'm afraid the W ship is at full-mast, with a strong wind...

steering us toward disaster --

[AspenRose]

143. Rearranging chairs on the deck of the Titanic....true, dat

See that iceberg up ahead?

[Chicago Democrat]

165. What a tragic, tragic fallen hero.... His Legacy is mixed at best...

What a sad chapter in American History...

My God, I don't wanna have to LEAVE MY COUNTRY!!

It is a nightmare come true. This country is doomed.

[Roxy66]

132. First of all...Why is this guy watching FOX?!! (FAUX)

[mrbassman03]

178. I do... very entertaining!

Some crazy stuff on there.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

134. Could Powell defect?

Just musing, but he always seemed the most moderate, reasonable, articulate, intelligent, and probably been the most widely respected of Bush's appointees. If he knows or suspects anything about the election manipulation, I think he would want to distance himself from bush-inc. I saw him on tv, 2 days after the election,at a roundtable meeting, with Bush sitting next to him. I was thrilled and amazed by the contemptuous expression Powell had on his face as bush was speaking. In fact I quick saved the footage so I could see it again....

[HamdenRice]

149. Powell is setting himself up to be Gerald Ford

I have this very strong intuition (and it's nothing more than that) that Powell is setting himself up to be president by appointment in case the bushistas continue on their disastrous death cult, brain-damaged-coke-monkey, end-of-days course.

It has been widely reported that Powell is almost as convinced as most of us are that bush has been a disaster and Iraq is a disaster. He must know about the criminal behavior that is rampant in the junta.

So many in the media are already speculating about the second term curse, I cannot imagine that bush will avoid impeachment. If bush is impeached, however, Cheney is even more neck deep in corruption and blood than bush, so he will have to be impeached or forced to resign first.

Like Nixon, bush will have to appoint a vice president nearly in anticipation of his own downfall. The moderate wing of the republican party will insist on a grown up, sane person -- and Powell is perfectly positioned. Of course, it cannot be a Democrat, anymore than Nixon appointed a Democrat vice president with Watergate looming.

Mark my words: Powell is setting himself up to be the Gerald Ford of the bush adminstration.

[StatBabe]

157. Maybe...

But I honestly don't see Bush getting impeached--at least, not without a massive change in the composition of Congress after the midterm election! Given what he pulled the last time (in 2002), it would not surprise me to see the bastard trump up some war with Iran or Syria! Anyway, don't expect Republicans to suddenly act like Americans for a change--it's not in their DNA! They will continue to support Bush, and without an opposition, there will be no impeachment! The ONLY way that Bush would be sacrificed by his own party is if the information about his corruption became so obvious and transparent that it would seriously jeopardize the survival of the GOP. So far, that hasn't happened and isn't likely to occur, given Bush's paranoid demand of loyalty from his inner circle combined with Rove's dirty tricks that undermine anyone who dares to speak the truth!

[tsuki]

179. I would settle for a resignation, "I am not a crook."

[Bucky]

162. Or, failing that, Al Haig. I doubt Bush will resign--they don't give up

Nixon was self-loathing. He quit at the end because he was half a quitter from the start. He had an abiding inferiority complex that, at the end, helped convince him he didn't deserve to be president.

Bush's character is nothing like that. He'd sooner run the country into the ground than resign over some scandel. I mean, what's one little scandal in comparison to God's Plan that Bush and his brother run the country for the next twelve years?

[hopespringseternal]

204. Agreed

These guys would wrestle the Devil to stay in power. They really will stop at nothing. The evidence against them would have to be mighty ugly - AND incontrovertible.

WHERE OH WERE ARE YOU WOODWARD AND BERNSTEIN AND BILL BRADLEY!!!!??

[cliss]

169. Interesting.

I think Powell has had enough. You could see it on his face: for each passing month, his face showed more and more strain. His eyes became downcast, his voice decibel turned lower and more hesitant. The droops on the corners of his mouth turned down. Well, he fought a good battle, showed lots of bravado.

I did hear something on Air America Radio about 2 weeks ago, Randi Rhodes said that there's a book coming out which quotes Powell as saying (about Cheney and RumsFailed) that "they're F###### crazy".

[Ironpost]

206. If you will remember he came aboard reluctantly

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. Good for him.

I hope he dips himself in industrial solvent to get the scum off.
Added: of course, * can't have someone that might actually do something about the Middle East peace process around now that Arafat is too dead to prpvide a convenient excuse...

[Spazito]

6. Nothing will wash the blood of Iraqi civilians off him...

he along with all the rest of the bush cabal are covered in their blood.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

9. Damn straight!

n/t

[sunnybrook]

211. good point...

Sometimes easy to forget because Powell looks extremely moderate compared to Bush and Co. and has publicly disagreed with Bush or leaked disagreements with Defense to the press. But you are right he went to the U.N. and stated that his photographs were proof of WMD labs, etc... Him being about the only person with any credibility at the time.

[BJ]

3. Meet the new boss....

Condi Rice. (just speculation, mind you.)

[Feathered Fish]

15. Same as the old boss. n/t

[MsMagnificent]

106. Won't get fooled again!

Exactly what I thought when Kerry way prematurely rolled over and played dead :(

[Terran]

33. I think they'll pick a PNACer to replace him

Bill Kristol, anyone?

[SOS]

90. Your prediction

is very likely accurate.
The PNACers have wanted control of the State Dept. for 4 years now.
They see the State Dept. as a weak link in their complete takeover of the US government.

[AngryOldDem]

Rice and Wolfowitz

Rice to State, Wolfowitz to NSA.

And that's my BEST-CASE scenario. As surreal as it seems, I'm actually hoping Rumsfeld stays put at Defense. At least we know who we have there.

It's official. The neo-cons have won. Something is just too fishy with everyone leaving the cabinet right and left. I don't care if it is "normal" -- there is something about all these en masse resignations that is throwing up a red flag. Somethin' just don't seem right.

[rmf]

166. You got it!

How much scarier can this administration get?


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20041115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cabinet

[Terran]

213. Whoops! They fooled me!

I guess they wanted another soft reasonable face to present to the world. Only this one they can control a lot more readily than they could Powell. So, rather than a strong PNAC figure, we got puppet. Shoulda known...that's much more Cheney's style.

[alfredo]

136. How about Richard Perle

He would fit in perfectly.

[struggle4progress]

203. Hard to turn to the right ahead, for sure. eom

[Stinky The Clown]

45. Only if she returns her wig to its rightful owner - Olive Oyl

That woman sickens me ....... Rice, not Olive Oyl

[rainbow4321]

63. Another speculation article/Danforth

http://tinyurl.com/44qzz


The White House was preparing an announcement to confirm Powell's resignation. According to one official, Powell expects that his departure date will be sometime in January. It was not immediately clear whether he will leave before Bush's second inauguration on Jan 20.
Most of the speculation on a successor has centered on U.N. Ambassador John Danforth, a Republican and former U.S. senator from Missouri.
-------------------
If above is true, here is a blurb on the guy from the net:

John Danforth (1936 - ), Former U. S. Senator (Republican, MO).
An heir to the Ralston Purina fortune, John Danforth was born in 1936. He served as Missouri's Attorney General from 1969 to 1976, before beginning a three term tenure in the Senate. Danforth retired from the Senate in 1995.

During the Clarence Thomas hearings of 1991, Danforth used his considerable clout to aid the confirmation of Thomas, a former Danforth aide and protege.

In 1999, US Attorney General Janet Reno appointed Danforth to lead the investigation into the FBI's roll in the Waco, Texas/Branch Davidian disaster of 1993. In September of 2001, President George W. Bush appointed Danforth a special envoy to the Sudan.

A political moderate who is respected by members of both parties, Danforth was once quoted as saying he joined the Republican party for "the same reason you sometimes choose which movie to see- the one with the shortest line".

Danforth is an Episcopal minister, and is married with five adult children

[cubsfan forever]

113. You mean Condi

"If I had the flight and seat numbers of the terrorists I would have done something before 9-11" Rice? ROFL! Whoa, I can't WAIT for the confirmation hearing on Ms Fake Degrees. "Now Miss Rice, about those transcripts (9-11 and academic) no one can seem to find ..." Imagine Joe Biden may have something to say about this?

[Chimpanzee]

131. She is totally incompetent!!

[barb162]

177. she needs to go back to teaching Russian history and stay out of

government

[lefthandedskyhook]

4. Looks like Charles Manson may get a cabinet seat after all

Of course his crimes may be too small to satisfy *.

[DBoon]

40. No, they want a Hispanic

General Pinochet will take Colin's place.

[lefthandedskyhook]

52. Oh yeah, my bad

[llmart]

5. Colin Powell is a sell out......

someone who had the ability to be something great but threw it all away by doing his 'massuh's bidding.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out you piece of shit!

[cali]

11. Your remark covers all the bases.

Racist. Ignorant. Stupid. Offensive. Congratulations!

[gratuitous]

49. Oh boy; it's a good thing I didn't see this thread sooner

If you're looking for offensive (yet compellingly accurate) remarks regarding House Boy Powell, look no further than your gratuitous brand One Stop Insult Center.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

117. racist? ignorant? stupid? offensive?

i dont see any of those qualities in the post you are responding to. i think he pretty much nailed it.

[cliss]

175. I agree.

Why should Colon Bowel get away with whatever he chooses, and then be exonerated because he's black. There'a charmed existence for you.

Colon Bowel is every bit as culpable as all the rest of them. Just because he's resigning doesn't change anything.

[The Sad Little Pony]

192. He should not be exonerated...

..."because he is Black", nor shoyuld he be condemned because he is Black.

[llmart]

182. Just have to add this for you.....

I'm a "she." :)

[The Sad Little Pony]

186. I disagree.

When a man is Black, and he's a republican, those who's instincts go towards calling him a "Tom", "House Slave", etc....

...have racist instincts.

Why is it that White men get criticized and insulted, WITHOUT REGARD TO THEIR RACE.
Yet if a Black Man deserves criticism, people have to "color" their remarks with race-laden insults.

In my opinion, THAT shows one's true colors.

Very ugly, indeed.

[RapidCreek]

214. When a man is black and he willingly helps those who promote the

subjugation of his race....He is a Tom, House Boy...etc.

Referring to a case in point with accuracy is not racist, it is accurate.

White men do get criticized with regard to their race...quite frequently
and accurately. They are called, Rednecks, White Trash, Crackers, Mullet Heads and AmeriKKKans, to name just a few, all of which refer to certain anti-social character traits generally associated with Caucasians.

Oh and by the way....if you have a problem with folks referring to Colin Powell as a House Boy...you may want to write a letter to Harry Belefonte and chastise him for his "racist instincts". He very publicly referred to Colin as such.

RC

[Terran]

161. How is it racist

to criticize a Black man for serving the right wing agenda that harms his peers? :shrug:

[The Sad Little Pony]

187. It is racist..

...because it should not be necessary to alude to his race, when criticizing him.
Yet you find it compelling, don't you?

The canard that ALL Black republicans deserve this treatment is PURE RACISM. Criticize their ideas, their positions, their stands.
Don't mention their skin color.

[Terran]

197. Yes, I do find it compelling.

Thanks for noticing.

You're wrong. The Republican Party is the Party of Racism. Therefore, any person of color who willingly serves it is a traitor to their own people. Skin color matters because it matters to Republicans. I don't know how you see legitimate criticism as racism on my part. Are Black folk immune to any and all criticism that has to do with their behavior in a racial context? Plus, if I were racist, I would have issues with all people of color, not just the conservative ones.

Tell me, is it misogynistic to criticize a woman for serving the Republican Party, which is also the Party of Misogyny?

[The Sad Little Pony]

202. No, it is not.

But when you hear people call republican women "bitches" and such, they should not get a pass, just because the woman happens to be a republican. I've heard it here.
So have you.
We've also heard people trying to "bash" certain male republicans, by insinuating that they are gay.

That type of discourse is inappropriate.
It is a broad brush.
Claiming that ALL republicans are racists and misogynists is silly.

It is even sillier to think that such a claim allows one to engage in behavior that we would call racist and sexist, were it to be practiced by the republicans.

[Terran]

212. You don't seem to understand the difference

between what you're saying and what I'm saying.

"But when you hear people call republican women "bitches" and such, they should not get a pass, just because the woman happens to be a republican. I've heard it here."

This has nothing to do with the example I gave. I'm not talking about broad-brush criticisms of women, or Republicans, or Blacks. If you use the word "bitch," it can apply to anyone, not necessarily a Republican.

"Claiming that ALL republicans are racists and misogynists is silly."

I never said any such thing. Again, you don't seem to understand the issue here.

"It is even sillier to think that such a claim allows one to engage in behavior that we would call racist and sexist, were it to be practiced by the republicans."

Again, you don't get it. Republicans *don't* engage in the "behavior" I'm engaging in because what I'm criticizing is a *uniquely* Republican-oriented activity, i.e., the cowardly and hypocritical serving of the oppressors by the oppressed. There's no mirror image here for you to cite because in a liberal progressive world, there would be no "Uncle Toms," there wouldn't be any need for them to exist. so your point is...pointless.

Finally, I think the fact that several African-Americans on this thread are on record as disagreeing with you is pretty good proof that you're wrong.

[The Sad Little Pony]

220. Claiming that ALL Blacks...

....who are republicans, are ALL "Uncle Toms", "House Slaves", or whichever race-label label you prefer -is racist.

You may disagree.

Try that old "content of one's character.." as a lens through which to view your fellow man.
It is better.

[llmart]

180. How dare you call me those names?

I'm going to respond first before I put you on my ignore list. And, first of all, thanks to all my fellow DU'ers who backed me up on this.

Harry Belafonte, last I knew, was a black man who was the first to say this exact thing about Colin Powell. Colin Powell was reported to be against the war from the get-go, but instead of standing up for his principles he chose to fall in line like the "good soldier" and go in front of the entire world with his lies and distortions because his commander in chief didn't have the balls to do it himself.

I guess speaking the truth equates to ignorance in your book, but in my book it's not. I will go to my grave standing up for my principles and not caving in just to fit in with the mainstream. That's more than I can say about Colin.

[The Sad Little Pony]

191. Perhaps if you knew Cali's race....

...you'd be able to come up with an even harsher comeback.

The point is, disagreeing, even condemning someone's politics should not require mentioning or referring to, their race.
That Harry Belafonte did this, does not make it right.

Powell's race SHOULD be irrelevant to this discussion.

[RapidCreek]

210. Really...

Let's see you called the poster you responded to a Racist, Ignorant, Stupid and Offensive. As people can choose to be offended by anything they care to be offended by....and you are presumably offended by an individual who refers to Colin Powell in the same fashion Harry Belefonte has, I'll give you that one.

Now to your other accusations...Would you care to explain what exactly it was in the post you responded to that you feel gives substance to your assertions?

Break it down for me...Point by Point.

RC

[Karenca]

12. exactly

my sentiments.



Georgie is a wad --- Barbara should have swallowed.

[lefthandedskyhook]

76. I think he sold out for AIDS relief

His UN "pack of lies" presentation came just before *'s state of the union speech where he promised AIDS relief for Africa. * got powell to promote the war and never delivered on his end of the bargain.

Should we respect colon foul for trying and failing? I DON'T THINK SO!

[Carolina]

151. I'm black and I agree with you

Colin is a sellout POS and it is not racist to say so. I loathed him when he signed on with this cabal before theft 2000 was a done deal. Walking around the ranch with Mean and Dumb, he lent an air of credibility and inevitability to the outcome. And he went along all along knowing the Iraq war was bullshit. He has blood on his hands and a hole in his soul, and it is neither racist nor ignorant to say so. You are quite right about him. And the same goes for his demon spawn Michael at the FCC.

[hopespringseternal]

205. I'm glad those of us who feel he sold his soul...

...aren't being demonized as racists. There was time when I (as an Independent) would've voted for him for Prez. He's a brilliant man and was the only sane voice in the gov.t Result- they marginalized him to the point of uselessness.

I hear he's bitter and disillusioned. But you know, he DID go along with it; even fight with the UN to go to war. He tried to be a good soldier.

I believe he CAN redeem himself and still be a force for good in modern politics if - and only if - he comes clean with his conscience.

Maybe he'll end up a whistle blower? Let's hope HE's a praying man - and one who talks the the God I grew up with - the one who teaches right from wrong!

Amen to that and may the Deity have mercy on his soul....O8)

[TwentyFive]

160. Totally agree - Powell could have been a great man - but he's just

an Uncle Tom who is there to give the appearance of credibility to the most racist administration in modern history.

[cliss]

176. I agree. See my post further down.

Harry Belafonte's words are coming back to me.

[Tace]

7. Powell Could Be A Much Greater Thorn To Bushco After He Leaves

Will he be? I dunno'.

[Just Me]

29. I suppose we can all still dream,...n/t

[ElectroPrincess]

37. No, JUST LIKE his complicity in covering up the Vietnam

war crime atrocities, Powell trashed his integrity in my eyes during the Vietnam Conflict. Beware of the enablers like Powell and Tenet. They're not being "good soldiers" but covering their professional a**es at the expense of their own good people and the degradation of humanity. I dislike his character *almost* as much as the true players (Cheney, Rummy, Condi, Wolfy, etc.).

[Huckebein the Raven]

123. He's probably already had the "talk" with the BFEE.

[NNN0LHI]

8. I hope he is taking his kid at the FCC with him

That way they can both spend more time with the family.

Don

[TahitiNut]

53. (GMTA) My thought exactly.

:thumbsup:

[kskiska]

105. I read where his son, Michael,

announced he's staying on the job.

[Garbo 2004]

10. So far just a headline on fox's site: http://www.foxnews.com/ n/t

[MaineDem]

13. Just announced on Bloomberg tv (nt)

[maddezmom]

17. CNN just announced it as well

[maddezmom]

20. ANdrea Koppel: Powell will stay until his replacement found

[maddezmom]

22. he tendered his resignation to * on Friday

[DeaconBlues]

14. There goes the last voice of reason in this Administration

Even if it was just a pretend voice of reason. How many votes would Bush have lost if the people knew the only "moderate" was jumping ship?

[muse]

30. Except that it was common knowledge he didn't have a voice and

I thought it was common knowledge he would leave as soon as the second administration started. But yeah, I agree with you, whatever "voice" he did have, it was a voice of reason. The buzz has been that Condi Rice will jump over to his job. Ick.

[hatrack]

68. There was an Onion headline that said it all:

"Rumsfeld Makes Wanking Motion As Powell Speaks At Cabinet Meeting"

[holboz]

152. Common knowledge meant nothing in this election

How else do you explain all of those people who still think Saddam Hussein was a key figure behind 9/11?

Or those who believe that Bush was the candidate of moral values and character?

I could go on and on but I don't think I need to with this crowd! (I'm preaching to the choir here)

[IndianaGreen]

79. Before we rush to canonize this man, let's remember

that Powell was Bush's front man at the UN where he spread all the lies about WMD, trailers, crop dusters, etc.

[HannibalBarca]

110. Maybe but

... I remember reading something about Powell not being very impressed with the "evidence" he had to present to the UN, I believe the word "bullshit" was used.

[tanyev]

124. But he still presented it.

[RapidCreek]

215. Yea? So why the fuck did he get up in front of the world and serve

as master disseminator of the bullshit he was so unimpressed with?

He's worse than Bush.....he KNOWS BETTER AND DID IT ANYWAY. The man has made a career of pimping himself off to the highest bidder....That is neither brilliant or honorable...it's intellectually lazy and amoral.

RC

[Bush was AWOL]

16. Geeze, they are really cleaning house!

What's the chance Bush appoints a Democrat or someone viewed as non-partisan to Sec. of State? I know many conservatives who feel the State Dept. is full of liberals, like the CIA according to Bush, and needs to be cleaned out, so there is a chance Powell could be replaced with someone even more conservative.

[Michael_UK]

18. It's just hit the BBC n/t

[Neshanic]

19. Well, well, well....salvage career and write ass-cover book 101.

[GalleryGod]

62. EXACT-O-MUNDO! as The Fonz used to say!

Let the CYA COMMENCE:spank:

I guess Condi-the-C*nt gets his job !?!

[DeepModem Mom]

71. I don't think so -- how about millions from service on corporate boards?

[Ctrl_Alt_Del]

135. Bingo

And I guess we're all supposed to forgive him for the pack of lies he told the world and the slaughter he provided cover for.

Anybody who buys his book is a fucking dolt. This dickhead chose to go work for the spawn of satan. Nobody made him do it.

Moderate, my ass. This guy's been all about CYA from Day fucking One.

[whodiedandmadeUSgod]

21. I think this will resonant with a lot of Bush voters who knew in their

hearts that they were supporting a puppet. They supported the administration because of this man and now he is bailing.
OK maybe not "a lot of them" but at least one that I know of!
Sue

[asjr]

23. He will probably be replaced with

General Boykin.

[Neshanic]

24. Or someone who knows Extreme Jesus.

[jmcgowanjm]

31. BTW-Son of God in the Monkey Palace

The entire upper levels of the White House, myself
excluded, could be replaced with Komodo Dragons and
the country would be much better
off.”

Voice of the WH
111204

http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a1187.htm

[Arkana]

34. Not Xtreme Jesus

Supply-Side Jesus. Read Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them for details.

[TahitiNut]

89. Why not Jerry Falwell for Secretary of State?

He can be the Kristian Krusader Killing (KKK) Machine's harbinger to the sinful world.

[Guaranteed]

25. Wow. Damn.

Shit.

Colin Powell is resigning. Damn.

Well- good for him? And good riddance?

[whodiedandmadeUSgod]

26. Why is he quitting?

What does he know?

[jsascj]

38. He knows what everyone else with half a brain knows

Better watch his back.

[rainbow4321]

41. Gets news off of 50+ dead soldiers/one week

Plus we will get some spin from the chimp about why Powell is leaving..is shrub breaking a record for number of rats jumping off the sinking ship?? How many former prez have lost this much of their cabinet prior to a second term? Now if only chimp and Cheney would resign we would be all set! Hey, it could happen...shrub doesn't seem like a captain who would go down with his ship..he would be like the rich folk on the Titanic saying "me FIRST! I'm outta here"!!

[ilovenicepeople]

138. When Colon Bowel leaves,will he be put in a colostamy bag?

[peekaloo]

27. One of the dingleberries on 'The McLaughlin Group' said he would

leave so he could chair the World Bank. Anyone else heard this?

He will not throw poop on Jr.

[UpInArms]

28. link here

Colin Powell to resign as U.S. Secretary of State

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?dateid=38306.4000858681-826832399&siteID=mktw&scid=0&doctype=806&

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Colin Powell reportedly plans to resign as U.S. Secretary of State. Televised reports Monday morning said that he had announced the decision. A State Department spokeswoman could not immediately comment on the report.

[maddezmom]

32. ap link- Powell Said Poised to Leave Bush Cabinet

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) has told top aides he intends to resign from President Bush (news - web sites)'s Cabinet, high-ranking State Department officials said Monday.


AP Photo
Slideshow: U.S. Attorney General




Powell, who long has been rumored planning only a single term with Bush, told his aides that he intends to leave once Bush settles on whom to succeed him, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.


The word of Powell's imminent departure kicked off a new week of Cabinet shuffling for Bush, who is planning his second term.




http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20041115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cabinet

[opihimoimoi]

46. Zeel Miller will be the Next SoS

Bushies revenge on the DEMs for making fun of him

[maddezmom]

51. the buzz right now is Danforth

[indypaul]

69. And a set of dueling pistols

will become standard issue for each ambassador.

[Nikepallas]

35. Now is time to live in fear....I think they have Colin's replacement now.

[Garbo 2004]

36. Actually this shouldn't be a surprise. Remember it was rumored

quite some time ago that Powell told friends would be leaving at the end of the term and then Powell appeared saying there was no truth in the rumors.

And the State Dept has been marginalized by this Administration. Not much need for diplomacy when you've got the military and a "you're either with us or against us" foreign policy.

[PurityOfEssence]

39. He was an honorable bloodthirsty liar, but he was disloyal

Junior dances with glee. Rumsfeld does little finger push-ups and says "exxxcellent". Cheney calls off sending the horse-head to Colin's house. Condi's quivering Mary Tyler Moron voice can barely say "but why, honey, why?"

[maddezmom]

42. CNN saying Spence Abraham and 2 others will be announced later

[maddezmom]

64. Powell, Abraham, Paige...and one other that's still a mystery

perhaps Condi??

[muse]

72. No, this means Powell, Abraham and two others. The previous

two are not in this count. This means two NEW ones. Four total TODAY!!!

[maddezmom]

88. CNN reporting: Powell, Abraham, Paige and Venaman(sp)

to be announced today. But hey the day is young. :)

[muse]

97. Yeah, I think this is right. I thought Paige was confirmed resigned

prior to today.

[rainbow4321]

73. Spin, spin, spin, spin

Start of the spin...making it sound like it is shrub who making the rats jump ship??

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/041122/usnews/22bush.htm


The president is moving briskly to seize the moment. He is consolidating power at the White House, channeling ever more influence to Vice President Dick Cheney, his closest confidant, and counselor Karl Rove, architect of his November 2 victory. Senior White House officials tell U.S. News that Bush plans to replace at least half his cabinet over the next few months. His aim is to remove officials who have become lightning rods for controversy or who seem to have lost their desire to serve in Washington.

[Allie]

87. Doing Bob Jones' bidding

Here's a quote from the Bob Jones letter to Bush after the election:

"Pull out all the stops and make a difference. If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them."

CNN just reported that Powell told his staff that he and Bush arrived at the decision together, and that it is in the normal course of changing cabinets in 2nd administration.

Yeah, right.

Bush is doing the bidding of the extreme religious right.

This is beyond scary.

[glitch]

146. Agreed. He owes them the selection - all the replacements will have ties

to the far right and christian reconstructionists.

[NightOwwl]

126. What it really means

"lightning rods for controversy:" They are too liberal for the bloodthirsty fundies.

"lost their desire to serve": They decided they no longer wanted to be associated with a war-time, uh, I mean, a war-crime president.

[muse]

83. Secretary of Agriculture reportedly resigning. nt

[Pirate Smile]

92. Nora O'Donnell mention Secretary of Labor also resigning.

They were (are?) going to stagger them so it doesn't look like a mass exodus. Too late!

[Democrat 4 Ever]

140. Elaine Chao - Secretary of Labor

Has managed to serve four whole years without one single attribute for the job except to be the wife of Senator Mitch McConnell. No background, expertise or knowledge on the subject. (She has seen to appointing coal mine owners to the Mine Safety Board - fox in the hen house scenario - and get rid of longtime personnel that truly wanted to make coal miners safer - that is it for her and four long years.) She is just another political pay back appointment for fund raising and campaigning in 2000 by her and hubby. Haven't heard that she is leaving - but good riddance if she does. Now head on back to Louisville and take that sorry ass husband with you.

[maxrandb]

43. Come to the Light Colon

I have always liked and respected General Powell. I think that it would be a great thing for the Democratic Party to reach out to him. Some on this board may never be able to forgive him for helping to further this Admins agenda, but true Christians believe in forgiveness. Don't know where he live, but I think he would be a fantastic Rep or Senator, especially with a D beside his name.

Maybe this is an opportunity for him to run in 08 as a Dem.

[placton]

111. I beg to differ

Powell has showed his true self: he's Clarence Thomas, but worse, since he is intelligent.

[LynnTheDem]

144. Powell is a war criminal from way back

Fck Powell.

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

163. POWELL AS A "D"

I feel the same way - Powell was probably the ONLY intelligent link in this administration. I am sure he will follow the many military personnel who are jumping ship. There are intelligent Republicans out there - we just have to fish them out. Look at Arlen Spector of PA - the rabid Christian nutcakes are out to do him in. The Shrub is a unique beast - capable of alienating Democrats as well as the moderate thinking Republicans in his own party. Wonder how many more Republicans will jump ship when they realize how far to the right these nutcakes have gone. Powell may be a welcome site as "D".

[Par]

217. the alienation is total

"The Shrub is a unique beast - capable of alienating Democrats as well as the moderate thinking Republicans in his own party. Wonder how many more Republicans will jump ship when they realize how far to the right these nutcakes have gone."

The REAL right, the true conservatives, are abandoning him as well. A real conservative would be very careful about the budget, and would definitely steer clear of foreign entanglements.

The Shrub is certainly not a liberal but he's conservative either. He's so radical he's not even on the map. And words like "left" and "right" are starting to lose their meaning ...

[Roland99]

I have but Three Words to say (and hope and dream....)

Tell All Book!

[TahitiNut]

44. "announced on Fox News"??

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[cal04]

47. Link

Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) has resigned and the White House is expected to make the announcement on Monday, U.S. officials said. "The Secretary announced to his staff this morning that he had submitted his resignation on Friday. He said he was staying on until a successor is confirmed and on board," a State Department official, who asked not to be named, said.


An administration official also said Powell had said he would stay on "until such a time as a replacement is named." Powell, becomes the latest high-level member of President Bush (news - web sites)'s cabinet to announce plans to leave following the election. Powell was often seen representing more moderate views on foreign policy in the Bush administration.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20041115/pl_nm/bush_powell_dc

[Neshanic]

48. Will his "Russert TV camera assistant" be leaving also?

[NightOwwl]

127. Hah! I wouldn't be surprised. n/t

[Merlin]

50. Just in time! The World Bank needs a new president. n/t

.

[Career Prole]

54. Greenfield on CNN said Powell wouldn't ever resign "on principle"

because he is literally and figuratively a "good soldier".
Good soldier, maybe. Bad American, definitely.
Just keep enabling them, Powell...no skin off your nose, right?

[Chimpanzee]

137. Can we call him a bad soldier

That gives true 'good' soldiers a bad name!

[SodoffBush]

55. I remember Powell's speech during the RNC 2000

He painted himself as a moderate during that speech, but later provided false information, which he knew to be false, regarding Iraq's supposed WMD, opening the door to the US's preemptive invasion of Iraq.

Powell is an evil doer. So is his wretched son.

Good riddance.

[demokatgurrl]

56. Had he done it 4 years ago, I'd still respect him. Too late. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

93. Before the Iraq War I kept thinking he would resign to protest. When he

didn't and testified to all those lies I lost all respect for him.

Powell and Blair - two men whom have lost all credibility and respect because of their association with BushCo.

[unfrigginreal]

57. Oh good.

I wonder which kook Bush will put in charge to purge the State Department?

Who says that you can't go back in time? The "Same shit different asshole" refrain will start to resonate at some point but probably not soon enough for millions of human beings. When will it dawn on some 30+% of Bush voters that they'll eventually be the targets of the 20% of Bush voters that control this administration, after they do their number on the "Libruls".

[GalleryGod]

58. Not Likely. Just Off to Make MEGA $$$'s Beyond Scrutiny.

After he's LIED in the well of the Security Council like John Gotti's Lawyer:nopity: Hope he has a massive H.A. the first day of his "New Life"...the 1,200 Ghosts of Iraq demand it!

[DeepModem Mom]

Yep -- millions from service on corporate boards

[chemp]

59. Freeper chatter

They're talking Zell miller as a replacement.
"HE's a good diplomat"

WTF?

And what does MSM mean over there? as in MSM chatter?

They are one crazy lot...

[muse]

66. MSM = main stream media is my guess

[IndianaGreen]

82. Zell Miller would be a great choice for Ambassador...

to the mentally deranged. Zell challenged Tweety to a duel!

[Pirate Smile]

98. LOL. Mr. Sensitive, Zell Miller in discussions with all the heads of

state in the Middle East, trying to sweet talk other European countries into helping out more in Iraq, etc.

Bwahhhhh!

[calimary]

158. Yeah. They could even call it the "Charm Offensive."

Just think of how far that'd take us? Like straight to hell. Hmm... good one: Straight-to-Hell Zell.

[Roland99]

60. FOX News link: Source: Powell to Resign

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138572,00.html

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Colin Powell announced his resignation to his staff during their Monday morning meeting, a State Department source told FOX News.

President Bush is expected to make the official announcement. The source suggested that Powell is likely to stay in place until a replacement is confirmed.

Several people have been named as a replacement, including Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. FOX News contributor and former ambassador Mark Ginsberg said Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz may also want the job, but could face trouble getting confirmed because of the troubles in Iraq that he takes the blame for. Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is also a darkhorse for the job, Ginsberg said.

The news comes as Reuters reports that Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham is also leaving his department, and will stay in place until his replacement is decided.

RICE?!?! That dumb fucking bitch hasn't done her *own* goddamn job! Fire that fucking bitch and Rumsfeld, too! The most incompetent wastes to have ever filled either of those positions!

[Sparkle]

61. You watch Fox news?

[Sparkle]

77. I am surprised Powell did resign.

I thought power meant more to him. Sorry, I still lost respect for you, Colin. What a waste!

[peacemeal]

94. No, not usually

But my father-in-law is here today and he has it on - they reported it and I looked to see if anyone else had. No one else had the story yet so I reported it as coming from Fox News because, well, that's where I saw it.

I know, I have a low post count, but that doesn't reflect how often I read and check this forum. By contributing this I was just trying to pay back to the community a little what I've taken from it.

[Sparkle]

99. So Fox was the first to report it, eh?

That figures, they do have a direct line to the White House. Btw, I wasn't being accusatory.

[Pirate Smile]

100. Thanks.

[NightOwwl]

129. Contrary to what others may think.

You are free to watch any show you want to. :eyes:

I for one, appreciate the info.

[calimary]

159. Welcome to DU!

My husband says the reason he checks out the Pox "news" network frequently is so he can keep tabs on "what the enemy is doing." He's got a far stronger stomach than I do.

[Ima]

173. peacemeal

Don't let them get to you. Somebody has to watch faux so we know what they are up to. You broke the news and that is a good thing.

[IndianaGreen]

67. I can't hardly wait for his tell-all book!

I hope Powell finally opens his mouth and tells the whole truth of how this Administration lied to get us into this war.

[Fovea]

81. Little chance of that

I think Colin is no long thinking of the presidency in 08, he is thinking on how to to stay out of the Hague.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

196. LOL. That is probably true. The Black Kissinger...eghh. n/t

[question everything]

70. WSJ: Powell to Resign Post As Secretary of State

Powell to Resign Post As Secretary of State

A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP
November 15, 2004 10:04 a.m.

Secretary of State Colin Powell has told top aides he plans to resign from President Bush's cabinet, senior State Department officials said Monday.

Mr. Powell, who long has been rumored planning only a single term with Mr. Bush, told his aides that he intends to leave once Mr. Bush settles on whom to succeed him, said the officials, speaking to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The word of Mr. Powell's imminent departure kicked off a new week of cabinet shuffling for Mr. Bush, who is planning his second term. Last week, Mr. Bush began remaking his cabinet for a second term, accepting the resignations of Attorney General John Ashcroft and Commerce Secretary Don Evans. Education Secretary Rod Paige, whose tenure has been defined by the biggest school law in a generation, also is expected to leave his job.

(snip)

According to one official, Mr. Powell expects that his departure date will be sometime in January. It wasn't immediately clear whether he will leave before Mr. Bush's second inauguration on Jan 20.

Most of the speculation on a successor has centered on U.N. Ambassador John Danforth, a Republican and former U.S. senator from Missouri.

(snip)

Write to the Online Journal's editors at [e-mail]

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB110052984990374149,00.html

[William Bloode]

74. Well...

It's no surprise, as he had already stated long ago he intended to leave and would not serve a 2nd administration. Something about his wife i believe. I'll run see if i can dig up a link.


Hmm mabye my memory is bad as i do seem to remember something about his wife pressuring him. At any rate heres a 2yr old article from Time>

>>snip<<
Secretary of State Colin Powell has been a good soldier in public, even as he has had to fight for every small victory against Administration hawks like Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. But he has privately grown more frustrated, and now, sources close to Powell tell Time, he has a firm plan for his exit: he will step down at the end of President Bush’s current term. “He will have done a yeoman’s job of contributing over the four years,” says a close aide. “But that’s enough.” The aide says Powell’s view of the matter is, “I did what my heart told me to do. I got (Bush) here and set him up. I did the best I could do.” If Bush wins a second term, only the imminence of a major diplomatic victory—in the Middle East, for example—could induce him to stay a short while longer.
>>snip<<

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,346150,00.html

[incapsulated]

75. He was worse than all of them

He was worse than all of them. Because he knew better.

He knew he was working for "crazy fucks" and yet he continued to lie for them, backed up their lies, and through his previous good reputation as a reasonable and intelligent man lent this administration whatever minuscule credibility it had.

He has no excuse. A pox on him.

[recovering democrat]

96. AMEN!

This IS important to remember and it is very sad.

[lil-petunia]

114. P R E C I S E L Y ! ! ! !

Nail on the head.

His future is dim because he was the apologist and fact abuser for this administration.


Rice wants to "move up or out". great.

[deadparrot]

116. Yep. I don't like him

but he is smart enough to know right from wrong, and yet he allowed this administration to use him as the scapegoat while everything went to pieces.

He knew better; he could have stopped it, or at least softened the blow. And he didn't. So he's scum, in my book.

[snippy]

78. Bush probably will name the twins as Co-Secretaries of State.

My second guess is Wolfowitz.

[AntiCoup2K4]

80. The bad news about all the defections is that none of them have been PNAC

I once respected Colin Powell, but his lies to the UN based on the 12 year old plagarized term paper pretty much killed that. Maybe he'll try to buy his dignity back, but it's far too late for his soul.

What's scarier that in the current crop of defections - Asscrotch, Evans, and now Colon Boy, it's the non-PNAC members of the cabal jumping ship. To me that sounds like the neocon zionfascist shitbags have taken complete control of the Fraudministration and will no longer allow any dissent whatsoever to their agenda. I mean, how extreme do you need to be to scare off John Asscrotch?? Or for Dipshit to alienate Evans, whose been BCE for decades?

This ain't looking good at all :scared:

[ze_dscherman]

85. Could even be replaced with a PNAC'er

Wolfowitz is high on the list to replace Powell x(

[Roland99]

86. Wolfowitz is a fucking WAR CRIMINAL!!

[AG78]

95. Point being what? nt

[Logansquare]

107. You got to break a few eggs to be the next Kissinger

And Henry got to bomb a whole country, and asassinate a president. Paul has a lot of catching up to do.

[Snellius]

84. Enablers are worse than perpetrators

Bush could have never sold the war and the neocon ideology without front conmen like Powell. At least the neocons believe in what they're doing.

[Isere]

91. Enablers are collaborators!

Colin Powell really threw away his reputation and will always be remembered for his facilitating the Bush war on Iraq. It's such a shame. He had a much promise, but at the end of the day, he stood with his president and against his own principles.

If he had left two years ago, I would have some respect for him.

[cubsfan forever]

120. Eloquently said! n/t

[Chicago Democrat]

168. I'm trying to think of parallels in History..I can't think of one...

He had potential, but I think he will be largely forgotten... He was the best of a truly HORRIFIC grouop of fanatics, or the LEAST HORRIBLE of the horrible people.

[sr_pacifica]

216. It was his military mentality

The same thing that kept the officers in the Third Reich from collaborating on assassinating Hitler.

[BRLIB]

101. I call him Colin Bowel

cause he stinks like the rest of them.

[northamericancitizen]

115. Question from a newbie

What's PNAC?

[quiet.american]

125. PNAC

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

[ispeculate]

102. Wow, this is a surprise...

I wonder what kind of book Powell will write.

[Godspeed_Democrats]

103. Still can`t believe I looked up to him years ago

he was a role model..so I thought.

What a sellout!!

[riverwalker]

104. Powell's Legacy

If he had resigned BEFORE the war he would have been a hero, and would have retained a molecule of integrity. Now he will only be remembered as a fuck up, sell out, a coward. The "Powell Doctrine" to prevent future Vietnams, oh yeah, they took that seriously didn't they? The "good soldier" meme is a wash as well, he led 1200 soldiers right off a cliff. Middle East peace? Yeah, he jumped right in there didn't he? Sharon has a blister on his ass from Powell's frequent kissing. The Powell the history books will remember is the one standing in front of the UN body with his little pointer stick, declaring the photo shop images were trucks FULL of tons of WMD's when he KNEW he was lying. Hope he doesn't plan on vacationing soon in Europe. He could be hauled off the the Hague. on the beach one day and then suddenly "Excuse us Monsieur Powell, you must come with us".
Here is your legacy Asswipe Powell: 100,000 dead civilians. 1200 American soldiers.
Fuck you.

[dkofos]

108. Good ridance.

He was pretty worthless.

[Francis]

109. Any news about Armitage? n/t

[DeadManInc]

112. Colon Bowel

Adios douche bag, don't let the door hit you in the ass! Second thought it can't, he is a spineless slug, gotta crawl under it.

[indigolady]

118. JUST HEARD IN ON NBC

[dxdem]

119. Powell...

lost a lot of my respect. He went from being a strong leader with infinite possibility and promise, to being Bush's lap dog. Supposedly he was fairly vocal indoors about some of the intel, etc, but he could have done so much more. He's got some respect to earn back...

[LynnTheDem]

142. Powell; Liar & war criminal Vietnam, Iran-Contra, IraqGate, 1991 Gulf War

MAI LAI massacre ring any bells?

How 'bout them Iraqis massed on Saudi's borders?

The man has ALWAYS been a total fcking lying asshole criminal.

[glitch]

147. For some reason people refuse to see this - I don't know what it is

Well, it is the mainstream media's image of him.
The information about Powell's true colors have been available for decades. But the meme is he's a good guy, just in bad company keeps appearing like a virus.
Keep up the good work as an anti-body!

[Dinger]

121. Something Tells Me He'll Be *'s Undoing

When Richard Clarke was on 60 Minutes a few months ago, I remember thinking, boy, * better hope Powell doesn't leave. I think Powell is ripe for the pickin'. Just a feeling I have.

P.S. Did he used to be a Dem?

P.S. Don't get the idea that I like him, I don't. Just remember a few things, like how he was supposed to make the case for WMD at the U.N. & said "This is bullshit."

[progressivebydesign]

122. I hope the morans that voted for Bush are enjoying themselves!

It is OBVIOUS to them YET that Bush was a colossal FUCKING FAILURE??? Screw those people that choose NOW to resign.. MISLEADING the voters into thinking that all was great with Bush.. until after the election. I guess, because they're filthy rich themselves, that having Bush in office doesn't hurt them...

[Blue_Tires]

128. is the world ready for SOS Richard Pearle????

[Chimpanzee]

130. The rats are feverously jumping overboard!!

If that isn't an indication something is terribly wrong...

[quiet.american]

145. I don't think so....

It looks to me Bush is ramping up his minions from those who eagerly drink the Kool-Aid, to those who eagerly drink the Kool-Aid with his spit in it.

All hail Bush!

[SouthernStar]

133. Glad he is going... but...

I'm glad to see him go. He won't be missed. I just wonder who will end up in his place, and if this will be a positive step forward, or one in the wrong direction.

[dhinojosa]

139. Sorry to be devil's advocate but.....

Warren Christopher resigned from the Clinton Administration in 1996, so I don't know if this is news to "stick it to em" with.

[bluedeminredstate]

141. I hope that he never sleeps

a restful night for the rest of his life. I hope he gets stress sores all over his body. I hope he has ulcers and chronic irritable bowel syndrome until he dies. I could go on, but you get the point.

He proved at the UN that he'll do anything for these criminals. I won't be waiting for his tell-all - he's got too much culpability.

[glitch]

150. He won't - he's strung out on Ambien.

Ambien doesn't let you sleep, it just makes you forget you had another sleepless night.
REM sleep is required for critical thinking and analysis. Why do think this lot is so psychotic? They're all on it.
http://www.blah3.com/graymatter/archives/00000704.html

[allemand]

148. He should have resigned before the election.

But I think that blaming him for the Iraq war is a little bit over the top.
The decision to go to war had already been made when he went to the UN, and his presentation there didn't convince anyone, there was no further Security Council resolution, it was a huge diplomatic failure and maybe even a trap (wasn't it Karen Hughes who came up with the idea of sending him there?). People tend to forget that.

[Carolina]

155. while the decision

to go to war had already been made, can you imagine the reaction if Colin had resigned in protest before 3/19/2003? If he had gone before a bank of media lights and cameras and told the truth, been a real patriot, a real good soldier?

Perhaps the cowed, corporate-corrupted media would have asked some
questions at the very least, perhaps history would be a tad different?

We at DU know the real Colin Powell ... from My Lai to now, and he is not a honorable man. As with his Bush masters, there's the glowing media image that contrasts starkly with the underlying real person.

[GoBlue]

153. Good riddance, Useless. /nt

[bamacrat]

154. So are three others in his cabinet hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAH HAHA
:nopity:

[muchacho]

156. From Iran Contra document shredding

to lying about WMD, Powell is a revolting human being.

buh bye....

[malaise]

167. The word is

that he's heading for the World Bank.

[pnutchuck]

164. Not Surprising

Bush used the old boys club from the Reagan era to get (and steal) the election the first time. I think Powell knew going into it, or even made a deal going into the first one that he wouldn't, along with a lot of the others, be sticking around. I bet he didn't count on avenging papa Bush's war! Papa Bush was the former head of the CIA, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't holding a few of Powell's skeletons hostage. I wouldn't count on a tell all book right out of the gate.

[The Night Owl]

170. Bye Powell!

On your way out, Powell, try not to trip on the corpse that was your supposed integrity.

[MacVet]

171. Sad times

It's sad to see what became of Powell over the past 4 years. He's a good soldier but that unfortunately meant checking his integrity at the door to his office. Sad. And I spent an afternoon with him once, before he became SoS.

[Barkley]

172. Cullin' Powell

Too bad; he's a year too late.

Just think Colin where you'd be if you had resigned
in protest of the Iraq war ...

Just yesterday he came out against the policy of 'regime change' in Iran. I hope he meant it. 'its up to Iran to decide it future ...'

I wonder what he'll do after we invade/bomb/overthrow (via insurgents) Iran?

Robert Reich predicted that Condi would take over at the State.

Any ideas who might be a replacement?

[saracat]

174. So What? Why all the melodramatics? Powell

always said he would serve only one term. Sheesh. Not everything is a conspiracy. Powell was unhappy . Pwell did the bidding of the BFEE and now that he has no credibility left to sell, he is leaving, as he always said he would. Big deal .And BTW , nearly all presidencies change personnel in the second term. Everyone seems to think this is so unusual and hints of asomething .It doesn't. It might just give Bushco an opportunity to appoint worce.Prpbably more obvious PNAC.

[sonicx]

183. he didn't say it publically. it was ususally gossip and 'aide' leaks

and what's the harm thinking of conspiracies? it's fun. :D

[saracat]

188. Except that most tend to exonerate Powell as though he was "forced"

out by the Cabal or that Powell's concience won't be compromised any further. And it is all garbage. Read his resignation letter in this thread. Powell is a bastard and a traitor to this nation and the world. I don't like the conspiracy theories that let him off the hook.

[daleo]

181. "I serve at the pleasure of my president"

There could be more here than meets the eye. Bush is cleaning house, and Powell isn't quite crazy or evil enough to make the cut.

[Chimpanzee]

184. Powell is unapologetic

From his letter of resignation to *:

"Mr. President, I thank you for the honor and privilege of serving you and the American people for the past almost four years. I am pleased to have been part of a team that launched the Global War Against Terror, liberated the Afghan and Iraqi people, brought the attention of the world to the problem of proliferation, reaffirmed our alliances, adjusted to the Post-Cold War World and undertook major initiatives to deal with the problem of poverty and disease in the developing world. In these and in so many other areas, your leadership was the driving force of our success."



:puke:

[daleo]

189. Disgusting missive

A quick lick on the way out.

[vetwife]

185. Rats deserting tend to squeal..which one will squeal first?

How well I remember Nixon !

[winston61]

190. So what?

What a world when Colin Powell is considered a moderate and voice of reason. If he objected he could have left a long time ago. You gotta wonder if he really thought that he could stop the empire. No doubt the next SOT will be Condi Rice. A kool aid drinker of the first order. A non stop parade of yes men and ass kissers through the oval office.

[restorefreedom]

193. In a way, too bad

He was the only remotely reasonable person on the vulcan-filled war team.

OTOH, he also knew the war was wrong and made the case to the U.N. with sh*t for evidence. So he blew his chance to do the right thing.


"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -- George Orwell

[0007]

194. Good!

[tridim]

195. Blow the whistle Colin

and redeem your self respect. Do it!

[MADem]

198. I'm betting on CONDI as his replacement

She is totally unqualified, her background in the USSR is totally WORTHLESS except as a history professor, and she has learned NOTHING in her NSA role. But she has the weecowboy's ear, so I am reasonably sure that she will be the pick.

I think the floating of Danforth's name was a canard, to keep the press from excessively focusing on Condi's weaknesses, which are many. She is a lousy speaker, she always sounds defensive and like she is suffering from stage fright, she is an admittedly LOUSY negotiator (uh...that's the primary purpose of the JOB!!!) and she HATES both TRAVEL and STATE DINNERS/Diplomatic functions. Such a prize!!!!

What does this tell me? That diplomacy is DEAD. Put a loyal soldier in the job, and screw trying to reason with people. The appointment of Dr. Rice means that the new State Department motto is "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY."

I'd prefer to be wrong on this, but I do not think I am.

[ebayfool]

201. OMG - Peeked at the freepers to see their reaction ... LOL

couldn't read anymore after I saw the following -

"Our best diplomat is Zell Miller. No time to rest for the war weary..."

Does that mean they claim that nutjob officially, they HAVE to keep him?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280289/posts
post #32

[pipes]

199. I think it is like those civilians in IRAQ

Help out the insurgents or get killed...I mean he already signed up..., and think what the ** crew would have done to him for a protest of the war and resignation. Not to mention what kind of life his son would have had.

Remember Randolph and Mortimer...Could it be Colin and Mikey? He was in a bad bad spot and figured that this might be the only way to come out of the whole piece of crap administration with at least some sort of life, he worked for it for a damn long time, would be a shame to give it up just for going against his massuh * right?

[President Kerry]

200. he announced long ago he was not going to stay

for *'s second term (if * was elected). good for him.

[The Zanti Regent]

207. Good Riddance you worthless whore

Colon Powell was the most incompetent Secretary of State ever.

[Matilda]

208. Is he jumping, or being pushed?

If he'd resigned before the election and told the truth, it might
have done a lot of good.

As things are, I don't think he'll ever live down that ridiculous UN
appearance with the phony photos. Pathetic.

[MADem]

209. BOTH

He wanted to stay to see through the full Iraq transition, and he had a few other things he wanted to do. The weecowboy is punishing him, just a bit, for muttering under his breath and not complaining when his staff leaked Powell's remarks about how the weecowboy has a screw loose and is a fucking idiot to boot.

But the real reason for doing it NOW is that weecowboy has his own agenda. HE NEEDS TO GET CONDI IN PLACE NOW--why??? Because George Tenet is WRITING A BOOK. Apparently, the book is going to FRY Doctor RICE--absolutely SKEWER her, excoriate her, call her everything short of a stupid, clueless nitwit. Thus, weewee has to get Condi in, and approved, before the stupid media whores start babbling about the book, which will probably sell like....er, rice cakes???

Jeez, Brian Lamb should bring back Booknotes!

[Matilda]

218. She is a stupid clueless fuckw --- sorry, nitwit.

Secretary of State is a post that needs intelligence and sensitivity.
I can only assume that Bush wants to alienate everybody who isn't
already totally pissed off with him.

[MADem]

221. It needs someone who at least

...can chat for long periods on the phone, can be persuasive, who has a calm, clear speaking voice, as opposed to a stressed high-pitched nervous tone, who likes diplomatic receptions and knows how to work the room, who can act like they are amused at diplomatic dinners, who know how to work the back-channels and play the compromise game, who can build trust and alliances, who can be relied on to advise a president clearly on an allies' perspective of a situation....

Condi is absolutely not stupid, she is very bright, very driven, and very dedicated, but she is a HORRIBLE choice. They may as well have nominated a tape recorder, and had the weecowboy prerecord his view of the world...then, anytime an ambassador from another country wanted to get a viewpoint, they could just push the button. They'll get NOTHING from her. She is the weecowboy's hatchet woman. Her perspective is his perspective.

She's a great enforcer and cheerleader, but I don't think she can be counted on to give the weecowboy the truth when he so clearly needs to hear it--she's already demonstrated her gross inability in that regard.

[DarkSim]

219. This just got WORSE. CONDI RICE is replacing him...

Was announced this morning (china morning). Heard it on state news then on the BBC.