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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:51 AM
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Faith, fabrications, and fantasy


I have heard Bush rant that he is the 'results' Prez--last time was when he was defending cutting programs from the budget that do not work.

WKBBronx@aol.com wrote:

> Bill Berkowitz
> WorkingForChange
> 02.12.05
>
> http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=18526
>
> Faith, fabrications, and fantasy (Part 2)
> After more than $1 billion in handouts, Bush's results-impaired faith-based initiative is coming to a state near you
>
> Continued from Part I . (http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=18521)
>
> After four years and more than one billion dollars given to faith-based organizations, are they serving the needs of the poor as well as secular organizations or government-run agencies? Certainly, with an administration obsessed with "results," there must be studies proving the efficacy of its faith-based theories. But there aren't; few if any such studies exist, writes Amy Sullivan in the October 2004 issue of the Washington Monthly. In a story entitled "Faith Without Works: After four years, the president's faith-based policies have proven to be neither compassionate nor conservative," Sullivan points out that the administration has failed to systematically track and "monitor the effectiveness" of programs run by faith-based organizations.
>
> The policy of funding the work of faith-based organizations has, in the face of slashed social service budgets, devolved into a small pork-barrel program that offers token grants to... religious constituencies... while making almost no effort to monitor their effectiveness...
>
> "Results, results, results," was Bush's oft-repeated mantra going as far back as the 2000 campaign. Sullivan cites an interview, from that campaign, with the religious Web site Beliefnet, where Bush was asked whether he would support government money going to a Muslim group that taught prisoners the Koran. "The question I'd be asking," Bush replied, "is what are the recidivism rates? Is it working? I wouldn't object at all if the program worked." According to Sullivan, "four more times in the interview , Bush mentioned 'results,' noting that instead of promoting religion, 'I'm promoting lower recidivism rates, and we will measure to make sure that's the case.'"
>
> Where do we stand in terms of measuring "results?" According to Sullivan, "it turns out that the Bush administration forgot to require evaluation of organizations that receive government grants." An August 2004 study released by the Pew-funded Roundtable on Religion and Social Welfare Policy found that "while more elaborate scientific studies are underway, the White House has relied on largely anecdotal evidence to support the view that faith-based approaches produce better long-term results."...........

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:33 AM
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1. In bush's pea sized brain..................
there's no doubt that a "faith based" charity can do EVERYTHING better than the federal government, therefor WHY keep tabs on the money and it's results?

I mean, these are people of god :eyes: and they wouldn't do anything with the money but what it was intended for, correct? :shrug:

Just because it's a "faith based" system (faith in what, the dollar?) it HAS to work better. The naivete of this bonehead staggers me sometimes. All he's doing is shoring up the religious vote with pork from heaven. He wants to make sure that all of god's people are on his side, ergo, god himself is on his side. He forgot the part about good works trumping shallow talk and meaningless actions, but what else could we expect from a fake cowboy with an acorn sized brain?

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