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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:41 PM
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LONE STAR ICONCLAST:Codex Alimentarius Countdown To Extinction
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 04:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
U.N. Food Policy Dumbs Down
World Health Standards, Says U.S. Physician

By Nathan Diebenow
Associate Editor


CRAWFORD — The United Nations is not exactly a cute and fuzzy bunny, according to one environmental physician. It can also behave like that evil, man-eating rabbit in the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail, although in this case the hare ain’t funny.

Dr. Rima E. Laibow, M.D. of the Natural Solutions Foundation, a not-for-profit corporation, says that the quality of food grown in the United States and elsewhere is at stake as new trade regulations on foods and nutrients are about to be imposed by the U.N. through the World Trade Organization.

She adds, however, that not only will organic milk, natural herbs, and high potency supplements go extinct in the United States due to this European vitamin and mineral policy know as Codex Alimentarius but also a very large portion of the world’s population, if its strict guidelines are implemented.

Based in part on Napoleonic Law, the Codex Alimentarius sets the stage for all food trade and processing to be regulated through a narrow, nutrient-low expectation that has the potential to cause about half the world’s population to eventually become sick and ultimately die, as predicted by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), she said.

As a joint project of the FAO and the WHO the group responsible for this policy involves the go-to guys for the international pharmaceutical corporations. These representatives sit on the six-member Codex Commission, an unelected bureaucratic board that asks for no input from health, consumer, and agricultural activists during meetings in Rome, Italy. Its next meeting is this coming July.
Ultimately, this illegal Codex policy harmonization could wipe out the United States’ right to govern it’s own food supply, leaving the red and blue parties here holding the grocery sack.

At least three U.S. Congressmen have signed on to Dr. Laibow’s petition, and one, Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), filed a congressional bill that called for the severing of relations between the U.S. and the U.N. and the WTO. Doing so would have stopped the Codex from trumping U.S. law.

During an interview with the Lone Star Iconoclast’s Nathan Diebenow, Dr. Laibow gave her take on the impact of Codex on consumers around the world, the influence of multinational corporations on the U.N., and the ways in which Codex policy harmonization can be stopped in the U.S.

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more at......
http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/2005/21-30/26news01.htm
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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:44 PM
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1. Sorry but this is all bullshit gobbledygook
---too many Illuminatti in one place here.
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:48 PM
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3. I sure hope so
but it would be just like the FDA to be in cahootz with something like this.
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:47 PM
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2. O,My God!
What can we do? I SWEAR by my vitamins! I believe in Health!!
Please let me know what we all must do. I can't imagine not being able to get what I want at my health food store!!!!
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:51 PM
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4. This has been debunked
many times.

All they are trying to do is regulate the trade in 'natural' remedies, so that you aren't paying good money for snake oil.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:25 AM
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7. NOT debunked anymore than any Bush lie
You better wake up and realize this this is NOT a tin foil hat drama. Further, if I want to spend my money on vitamins, supplements, and organic food, why can't I do that. Others are free to waste their money on beer, wine, liquor, and tobacco products. Why can't I waste mine as I see fit???? You better believe that this is as dangerous to our health and well being as any of the things that corporate America is foisting on us.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:42 AM
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9. Nobody is going to stop you from buying anything. nt
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:41 PM
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11. Not true
How closely have you followed this? I have been following it for years.

We may be able to purchase supplements but at huge price increases and often only with a prescription. Note the outrageous cost increases in zinc tablets once Codex was adopted in Germany.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:50 PM
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12. My understanding is that it is possible,
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 03:51 PM by K-W
that it could take us in that direction, but as it stands now, this shouldnt have any significant effect on US consumers.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:58 PM
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5.  I have a lot of respect of the Lone Star Iconoclast..what are the
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 04:05 PM by BrklynLiberal
odds that the "debunkers" are the ones that are trying to pull a fast one on the citizens of this country?

If and when this turns out to be true, it may be too late to do anything then. It will be much smarter to pay attention to this than to ignore it.

I remember very clearly when the tobacco companies swore up and down that smoking could never cause cancer. Asbestos could never cause health problems. Mercury has nothing to do autism. Why would the pharmaceutical corporations ever lie to us? :sarcasm:


Do your OWN Investigating of the source before you accept anyone else's word that this will not affect you.

WHO are the "debunkers"? Exactly who said this is not going to affect us?

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:07 PM
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6. Available by google
and here is the Canadian govt official website, so you won't see this solely as a Bush plan. The Codex is from 1963.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/food-aliment/friia-raaii/ip-pi/codex/e_index.html

I guarantee you there is no reason to panic or see evil plots in everything.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:30 AM
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8. Every major wellness person has warned us of CODEX
I will believe Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez who has pioneered one of the few successful treatments for Stage IV pancreatic cancer, based on vitamins, supplements, and an organic diet. Read what he has to say:

A copy of the Gonzalez letter to Maloney:


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July 15, 2005

Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney
1651 Third Avenue #311
New York, New York 10128

Dear Congresswoman Maloney:

I am writing with some desperation to express my strong opposition to
CAFTA which is soon coming up for a vote in the House of
Representatives. I sincerely hope someone in your staff reads this letter, as the
lives of my patients could be in jeopardy should CAFTA pass and become law.

I am a physician who lives in your district, and practices in
Manhattan. I have a very traditional medical education background (AB Brown,
postgraduate work at Columbia, MD at Cornell, fellowship in cancer
immunology). Since I was a medical student, first under the direction of the
then President of the Sloan Kettering Institute, I began researching
intensive nutritional approaches to the treatment of advanced cancer.
Though in the past my work has been considered controversial, in recent
years I have received significant academic support. In 1993, the National
Cancer Institute invited me to present my work to a senior level group
in Bethesda, and at their suggestion I pursued my first clinical trial,
an evaluation of my approach in the treatment of inoperable pancreatic
cancer, considered the most deadly of cancers. The results of that
effort, which went beyond anything previously documented for the disease,
were published in 1999 in the research journal Nutrition and Cancer. As
a result of that study, the National Cancer Institute awarded me a
large grant to support further clinical trials of my work, currently being
conducted at the Columbia University College of Physicians and
Surgeons. My current approach involves the use of high dose pancreatic enzyme
and nutritional therapy in the treatment of advanced malignancies, and
does not involve the use of chemotherapy. All the supplements we
prescribed are considered nutritional supplements; though we have full FDA
approval for the study, none of these supplements required a prescription.
I want to mention that my research has been strongly supported by both
Republicans and Democrats, particularly Senator Tom Harkin and
Congressman Dan Burton, both of whom have met with me to discuss my work.

What does this have to do with CAFTA? Everything, since should CAFTA
pass in the US, by the definitions of CAFTA, my therapy, the clinical
trial itself, could become illegal.

Few Congressmen and certainly few Senators realize that CAFTA requires
harmonization with existing European legislation regarding food and
dietary supplements under the CODEX regulations. This is the genesis of
the potential problem. The pharmaceutical industry has in Europe mounted
a relentless campaign to use CODEX to virtually eliminate the over the
counter sales of most nutritional and herbal supplements, and turn them
into prescription items which could then be sold at much higher prices,
completely under the control of drug companies.

Currently, as you probably know, nutritional supplements are available
over the counter in this country, and do not require a prescription. I
believe as a physician and scientist that this easy availability of
such products has been of great benefit to millions of Americans, as a
substantial and ever increasing amount of scientific literature supports
the beneficial effects of many nutrients that are too often inadequately
provided in food.

CAFTA, if passed, would require the US harmonize its dietary supplement
legislation with that of CODEX, forbid the over-the-counter sale of the
great majority of useful supplements, and destroy the valuable US
supplement industry. Since my therapy utilizes only nutritional supplements,
should CAFTA pass, and CODEX supercede American protection of their
availability, my treatment would come to an end, my promising research
would be dismantled, and many hundreds of my patients whose lives depend
on this treatment will die. I am not exaggerating, and any of your staff
are invited to come to my office to discuss these critical issues with
me.

Nutritional supplements have a long history of safety except in very
rare cases when misused; their safety profile is far more impressive than
that of many over the counter drugs such as aspirin, which yearly is
responsible for several hundred deaths. Nutritional supplements as
currently available offer many benefits in terms of disease prevention and
good health, as documented clearly in the extensive nutritional
literature, and they are a subject about which millions of Americans are
passionate. You may not be aware, but for 30 years the pharmaceutical industry
in the US has sought to gain complete control of what they perceive as
a lucrative industry, by turning nutritional supplements into
prescription items. Their attempts, often hidden beyond sacred tenets of
"consumer protection from dangerous supplements," have little to do with the
consumer and everything to do with industry control.

Many of my own patients are desperate, as they learn the dangers of
CAFTA and CODEX to their lives. But that's just the beginning; within the
past few weeks, millions of Americans, including many who feel their
health depends on the availability of their supplements, have started to
organize. The political ramifications are enormous. I have scores of my
advanced cancer patients who have already said should CAFTA pass and
their supplement supply be compromised, they will picket the offices of
any Congressman and Senator who voted for CAFTA, and they plan to stay
and die right in front of the offices.

I have been rather amazed that so many politicians seem unaware of what
CODEX is, how the drug companies have used it to infiltrate CAFTA, and
its true origins from the pharmaceutical industry who have failed for
thirty years to get control of the supplement business.

I hope you believe that I am not exaggerating when I tell you a vote
for CAFTA is a vote for the death of my patients.

For your information, I do have a website with rather extensive
discussions about me and my work. The address is:

www.dr-gonzalez.com

I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Nicholas Gonzalez, M.D.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:43 AM
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10. I like how everyone sees pharma's ulterior motives,
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 11:45 AM by K-W
but nobody seems to see that those people currently making money in an uregulated market might have a financial stake in regulation.
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