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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 10:57 AM
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Behind the Military Revolt (Sunday WP Op-Ed - Holbrooke)
By Richard Holbrooke
Sunday, April 16, 2006; Page B07

The calls by a growing number of recently retired senior generals for the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is the most serious public confrontation between the military and an administration since President Harry S. Truman fired Gen. Douglas MacArthur in 1951. In that epic drama, Truman was unquestionably correct -- MacArthur, the commanding general in Korea and a towering World War II hero, publicly questioned Truman's strategy in Korea and had to be removed. Most Americans rightly revere the principle of civilian control over the military. But this situation -- to be more accurate, this crisis in civilian-military leadership -- is quite different.

First, it is clear that the retired generals -- six so far, with more sure to come -- are speaking for their former colleagues, friends and subordinates who are still inside. In the tight world of senior active and retired generals, there is constant private dialogue. Recent retirees stay in close touch with old friends, who were often their subordinates; they help each other, they know what is going on and a conventional wisdom is formed. Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Greg Newbold, who was director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the planning period for the war in Iraq, made this clear in an extraordinary article in Time magazine this past week when he said he was writing "with the encouragement of some still in positions of military leadership." He went on to "challenge those still in uniform . . . to give voice to those who can't -- or don't have the opportunity to -- speak."

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This has put President Bush and the administration in a hellish situation, and at a time when the security situation in Iraq and Afghanistan seems to be deteriorating. If Bush yields to the generals' revolt, he will appear to have caved in to pressure from what Rumsfeld disingenuously describes as "two or three retired generals out of thousands." But if he keeps Rumsfeld, he risks more resignations -- perhaps soon, from generals who heed Newbold's stunning call that, as officers, they took an oath to speak up and should now do so on behalf of the troops in the field and the institution that he feels is in danger of falling back into the disarray of the post-Vietnam era.

more at --
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401451.html
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:07 AM
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1. Recommended
Thank you for posting.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:10 AM
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2. i do not remember this ever happening in the Vietnam war..
i am not saying it didn't happen ..i just do not remember it happening...does anyone know if this kind of revolt ever happened during vietnam war??

i feel like the only people right now that can stop this madness is indeed our military leaders...

i just have to wonder when the third longest General that was demoted last year for "having and affair" cough...was attempting to do just this..a revolt..and with the help of NSA spying...the * admin was able to hold off this revolt earlier..

i pray for our bravest to save us from these sick son of a bitches in this white house...

and we need to support them any way we can...

i know some will say they are late to the dance..but better late than never...

fly
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:54 AM
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4. the grunts revolted in Nam. That and fragging junior officers.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:59 AM
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5. I do not recall a revolt at the time, either, at least not a public one.
but I was young so might have not caught the significance if it happened.

IMHO, the ONLY reason for such a revolt is if the white house has already PLANNED to use nukes. Everything else would permit the retirees to work with the current system.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 11:11 AM
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3. K & N n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:03 PM
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6. Kick-ass article. Thanks for posting.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:56 PM
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7. K & R
Rummy's days are numbered.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 03:12 PM
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8. As they should be
he should have gotten the boot a long time ago, let's hope that Bush displays some savvy and
does not appoint the idiot rep to the UN as the new secretary of defense.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:35 PM
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9. Bush keeps Rummy to take the heat for him, lets the brass resign,
plenty of eager officers wanting some stars. And he finds a way to silence
any other military officers from speaking out. (Pay raises, sweetheart military contacts, etc etc.)

This is cake for the Repugs. Then they just wait for the next scandal and this will all blow over.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 04:40 PM
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10. Excellent! Thank-you n/t.
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