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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 12:59 PM
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The Berlin Wall Fell. Will We See the Curtain Fall on Bushevism?
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorials/129

Communism Ended Its Disastrous Run as a Police State with the Berlin Wall Falling. Will We See the Curtain Fall on Bushevism?

Submitted by BuzzFlash on Sun, 04/08/2007 - 8:14am. Editorials

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

Last night we saw the gripping Academy Award winning best foreign film, "The Lives of Others." It’s an absorbingly bleak movie about how individuals in East Germany were under a 100,000 person police-state apparatus known as the Stasi....A loyal socialist playwright and his actress lover become the victims of a personal plot carried out by the Stasi at the request of a senior party member in love with the actress. Taking place just a few years before the collapse of the Soviet Empire, it details the creation of a government apparatus to "legally" suppress the residents of East Germany on behalf of the "security of the state."


It would take a book to review the list of (US) government authorized (and unauthorized – as recent revelations from the FBI have revealed) efforts to both monitor Americans and use the courts to achieve the political goals of solidifying a permanent power base for Bushevism....Our second case in point (among thousands) is Alberto Gonzales’s testimony many moons ago after the discovery that the Bush Administration was illegally wiretapping on Americans – without permission of the FISA Court. The White House, of course, claimed that it had the legal authority to conduct the surveillance.

When Gonzales appeared before a Senate Committee to answer questions about the eavesdropping (the primary surveillance technique at the center of "Lives of Others," only now it is more sophisticated), he was asked by a Democratic Senator if the wiretapping was ever used for political purposes. Gonzales did not respond "no." In fact, he basically said that he could not answer that question.....It is ironic that this great nation is moving ever closer to the world of the Stasi, just as democracy flourishes in what was once the Iron Curtain.

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:00 PM
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1. It's more of an oilcloth than a curtain. nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:01 PM
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2. What's Really Needed Is a Shroud n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:04 PM
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3. Every shroud has a silver lining. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:05 PM
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:21 PM
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5. only with the French Solution: they really know how to throw a revolution, that is why the RepugNuts
hate and FEAR the French so much
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:03 PM
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10. A Plausible Solution AND Explanation!
A two-fer, in other words. Good job!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:26 PM
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6. the leader of a Pagan Group got arrested for saying they should be impaled on stakes on the WH lawn
i now way advocate such behavior, it is abhorrent and disgusting, and only used metaphorically.. but if it happens i hope the video shows up on YouTube..i need a new screen saver
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:48 PM
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7. I mentioned that Italy's Mussolini and company got
a royal farewell and boy I had to put my flame suit on...not that I advocate violence and that type of behaviour....just stating a historical fact....but anyhoo....

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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 02:13 PM
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8. Thing is, the cronyism is what got them in the end
excerpt from

"New Europe"
Granta # 30, Winter 1990
"Looking For Jiri Wolf"
by Graham Smith



"I was surprised by the relaxed and low-key atmosphere of the City Forum office.I had imagined a throng if inquirers: There was a small knot of people. The staff all seemed of student age, smiling, casual, obliging; and if I was reminded of anything, it was of a university common room or a union office-an air of precarious organization. The word you were tempted to use-I thought of the hand-written posters and the single, small-screen televisions relaying information to potential crowds of hundreds-was 'amateur'. You had to remind yourself that a month ago the machinery of opposition and free information simply hadn't existed; and that, at a deeper level, all revolutions must appear to be started by amateurs.

"Furthermore, if these were the amateurs, who were the professionals? No doubt, when the communist leaders were first compelled to negotiate with the the Civic Forum they must have stifled the thought (it was creepily instructive to have shared it), that the situation was preposterous-they were dealing with amateurs. But were they themselves professional in anything other than their official possession of power? Professional in terms of expertise, responsibilty,knowledge, capacity? The answer I got to this was to be repeatedly and vehemently "NO". The constant cry-with a gush of relief now that at last it could be uttered openly-was that in a totalitarian regime stupidity floats to the top. At every level, control had passed for years into the hands of people with no qualification other than their party allegience. What Czechloslovakia desparately needs now is intelligence."



We have plenty of educated people in the population to step into the gaps as soon as we get these asshats out. They will crumble, just like the communist regimes because they made the same mistakes.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:02 PM
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9. An Appealing Vision There
I hope you are right about intelligent people....they're spread too thinly around, though. And it's ethics we need more than anything. You don't have to be brilliant to be a good worker or citizen, but you do need ethics in the system and the people.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:58 PM
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11. Thanks...
Edited on Sun Apr-08-07 04:15 PM by junofeb
I don't necessarily see 'intelligent' people...(we know who we are :) !)But people with the training. I mean, there are obviously people out there trained to run our courts 'fairly'. They may not be 1000% ideal, but they have something called 'standards'. There are also all these scientists, civil servants, etc. who have lost their jobs to these automatons. I would not be surprised to see them jump at the opportunity to return. We have many of the people to reanimate our infrastructure...all these unemployed professionals who have been outsourced or cast aside to accommodate these 30-something bushies. But the democrats have to settle in for the deep purge. No more of this bogus capitulation for 'the country to heal'. We have to get ahold of our elections, elect dems who have the stomach and PURGE. I think we would have a good case retroactively that the 2000 and 2004 elections were crooked. There is no reason why any of their hiring decisions should apply. Boot them out if they are unqualified. A degree of law at a religious college should be good enough for a job at a mc donalds....


edit:More zeroes needed

further edit: just saw article here about the huge numbers of college-qualified kids who can't get into schools. Take some of that money saved from no longer indiscriminately bombing people/things and build more and cheaper public colleges, then you have a huge pool of educated people to select from. Then we are more likely to get the best, brightest, and most devoted to true public service.
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