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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:58 AM
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Dave Lindorff: What is This "Iranian Provocation" BS?
What is This "Iranian Provocation" BS?
Tue, 01/08/2008 - 15:35 — dlindorff


Not one news story about this week's latest chapter in the administration's ongoing effort to gin up a crazy war with Iran--the so-called "provocation" caused by Iranian naval speedboats approaching within 200 meters of a US destroyer--mentioned that the US, which sits some 7500 miles away from Iran, has sent a whole fully-armed armada into the Persian Gulf just off Iran's coast.

Or that the Vice President actually flew out to an aircraft carrier that was part of that US armada, and threatened, from the flight deck, to have the US massively attack Iran.

Just who is provoking whom where?

Imagine, for a moment, that Iran had sent its navy to patrol in the Gulf of Mexico, in international waters just off of the coasts of Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas, and that its leader flew out to one of those ships and threatened to take out America's oil infrastructure.

How do you think the US government would react? How do you think the American people would react?

Do you think the US would send naval vessels out to provokingly sail close to Iranian ships? Do you think the US might do more than that and maybe sink those ships? (Especially if at that very moment Iranian special forces were operating inside the US, creating havoc and supporting subversive elements, as US special forces are already doing in Iran.)

Well duh! Of course they would. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/93



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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:03 AM
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1. This is the same argument I made when we illegally invaded Iraq
and the same applies here.

If Iraq had invaded America, do you think we would greet them with flowers? Hardly.

So why should Iraq,Iran or any other place be any different?

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:04 AM
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2. These criminal bastards are gonna get us in even deeper shit
then we're already in. They can't handle the wars they've started against defenseless countries so how they handle can they handle a country ready, willing, and able to fight back?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:06 AM
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3. All Their Base Are Belong To Us! n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:09 AM
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4. It's IPPW - Intentionally Perpetrated Perpetual War as only the U.S.,
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:09 AM by higher class
Israel, and Europe know best - specifically certain people in the U.S., Israel, Europe.

To pocket profits and control the people so that they won't mind the pocketing of profits and pollution of blood and toxins produced in the pursuit of IPPW while the nations' economy goes down a hole. PNAC pushed and Fundie/Baron supported in this country with help from some Democrats with acronyms and names.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:10 AM
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5. We must also remember that we need to go in there and destroy all the
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:12 AM by higher class
equipment that Cheney has sold them so we can sell them some more.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:22 AM
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6. Look, some of these people think it's their moral duty to attack Iran before leaving office.

This is because, for all the lip-service they pay to the idea of morality, they have no fucking idea what the word means.
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Barb in Atl Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:24 AM
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7. I've been wondering...
...why this hasn't gotten more play. I mean, seriously, you've got noises coming from the white house about provocation. Provoking us toward what, I ask? Is this the thing that's going to give them license to bomb Iran?

More than any other time, I'm really scared of the hype.
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