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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 11:23 AM
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5 Myths on Who's Really 'Pro-Israel'
Edited on Sun May-11-08 01:18 PM by Lithos
washingtonpost | 5 Myths on Who's Really 'Pro-Israel'
Six decades ago, my father fought alongside Menachem Begin for Israel's independence. If you'd have told him back then that politicians in the world's last superpower would be jockeying today to see who can be more "pro-Israel," he would have laughed at you. Grateful as I am for decades of U.S. friendship with Israel, I have to wonder, as the state my father helped found turns 60, just who is defining what it means to be pro-Israel in the United States these days.

Some purported keepers of that flame claim that supporting Israel means reflexively supporting every Israeli action and implacably opposing every Israeli foe -- adopting the talking points of neoconservatives and the most right-wing elements of the American Jewish and Christian Zionist communities. Criticize or question Israeli behavior and you're labeled "anti-Israel," or worse. But unquestioning encouragement for short-sighted Israeli policies such as expanding Jewish settlements in the West Bank isn't real friendship. (Would a true friend not only let you drive home drunk but offer you their Porsche and a shot of tequila for the road?) Israel needs real friends, not enablers. And forging a healthy friendship with Israel requires bursting some myths about what it means to be pro-Israel.


1.American Jews choose to back candidates largely on the basis of their stance on Israel.

This urban legend has somehow become a tenet of American Politics 101, which is why politicians work so hard to earn the pro-Israel label in the first place. But it's a self-serving fable, cultivated by a tiny minority of politically conservative American Jews who actually are single-issue voters. Most Jewish voters make their political choices the way other Americans do: based on their views on the full spectrum of domestic and foreign policy issues.

Moreover, the American Jewish community still has a markedly progressive bent. Exit polls suggest that nearly 80 percent of Jewish Americans voted for John F. Kerry over George W. Bush in 2004; some 70 percent of them were opposed to the Iraq war in 2005, according to the American Jewish Committee; and polls show that most American Jews say they favor a more balanced U.S. Middle East policy that's aimed at achieving peace.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 11:37 AM
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1. Great article...
as a supporter of the Israeli left, I strongly disagree with the view that the American (or any) Right are good for Israel. Or for anyone, if it comes to that. And especially John 'Armageddon' Hagee and his nutcase followers. Jews and Israel are the pawns, not the friends, of people like that.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 11:59 AM
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2. I think that most of the rw religious idiots see Israel not so much as
an real nation of human beings as they view them as the "pony they ride" into heaven on. Any support they seem to give has ties to it and is based on certain conditions that fit their rw ideology and not the Jewish religion. They are fair weather friends. Not to be trusted.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:58 PM
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3. MinM, please be aware that...
DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:18 AM
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7. that's a dumb rule
number of paragraphs and not number of words? Why not just mesh the paragraphs together then? LOL it took me just 5 seconds to find a loophole.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 05:57 PM
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4. wow, i know the author of that article
jeremy ben-ami -- i went to college with him, along with michelle obama.
good guy, and very bright.

seems like our year to emerge on the scene. i wonder what classmate i'll spot next!
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:15 PM
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5. Ignorant to these facts, I was genuinely astounded when I ...
... saw a national poll Hardball was showing, and what was taken of Jewish people regarding who they would vote for in the GE between Barack Obama and John McCain.

Barack had it by a whopping 60%!

I'm going "Huh?"

Then again, just about every famous Jewish person I know have supported Obama from the get-go and Keith Olbermann himself is an Obama supporter, and he's Jewish as well, I believe.

I'm basing this on him mentioning that his family are German Jews and most of his family had died in the gas chambers in Germany.

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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:19 AM
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6. Maybe not
Olberman may be Jewish by blood but I think if you asked him he would consider himself a non believer or free thinker.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:14 AM
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8. K&R
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 02:49 PM
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9. current Israel policy maintains the police state and instability in the region
Israel is just as much to blame for the problems with Palestine. They violated UN charter and expanded their borders beyond what had already been agreed upon-- even the Palestinians. The Israeli's kicked the Palestinians out, and they didn't expect violence in return? It's one thing to have a supposed past relationship with God, it's quite another to use that as an excuse to create over 1 millions refuges. The Arab nations surrounding Israel don't hate it because it's Jewish; they hate Israel because they have never seen anything but hostility from Israel. For being God's chosen people, Israel has done more to harm international relations than any country since 1950. I would like to state, however, that Palestine is not blameless either. Retaliating to oppression through violence, albeit a distinctly human reaction, is not the way to go. Only by non-violent movements can anything of substance ever truly be resolved.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:50 AM
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10. Do you seriously think that ...
'Israel has done more to harm international relations than any country since 1950'?

Quite an exaggeration! Don't you think that a little credit for harming international relations might go to the USA? The Soviet Union? China? All much more powerful countries than Israel!

Britain, of course, in its role as Imperial power,did quite a bit to harm international relations for a couple of hundred years; but that ended just *before* 1950.

I do agree that both the Israelis and Palestinians have to stop their collison course and find a peaceful solution to their problems.
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