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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:20 AM
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If I Were a Betting Man, I'd Wager that Cheney Was Behind the Anthrax Attacks
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If I Were a Betting Man, I'd Wager that Cheney Was Behind the Anthrax Attacks

By Mark Karlin, BuzzFlash. Posted August 12, 2008.

You'd have to be a terribly cautious and willfully blind person not to think that the Bush Admin was capable of orchestrating the anthrax attacks.




You'd have to be a terribly cautious and willfully blind person not to think that the Bush Administration was capable of orchestrating the anthrax attacks. You'd almost have to be a fool.

Years after the anthrax attacks were aimed at Democratic senators who were necessary to pass the "spy on Americans," cynically named "Patriot Act," suddenly the latest "prime suspect" commits suicide without leaving a note or anything, but then the FBI makes claims about how they "got their man" after how many seasons of incompetence in their investigation had passed?

Anyone who doesn't believe that an administration that had the CIA (or perhaps Douglas Feith's "manufactured evidence" Defense Department office) forge and backdate a letter to link Saddam to Osama to help justify the war with Iraq is not capable of using army-produced weapons grade anthrax, out of a Defense Department facility in Fort Detrick, Maryland … anyone who doesn't believe that an administration that forged Niger uranium documents to falsely link Saddam to a purchase that could facilitate a nuclear program that had been shuttered … anyone who doesn't believe that an administration that lied about knowing where WMDs were hidden in Iraq (as Rumsfeld and Cheney claimed), when those weapons didn't exist … well anyone who doesn't believe that such people who believe that they are "masters of the universe" and above the Constitution and the law would be concerned about "collateral damage" in a domestic anthrax attack is naive and incapable of understanding the heart of darkness that lurks within Cheney and his puppet in the White House. (George W. Bush ever in need of finding ways to prove his manhood through being indifferent to the deaths of others.)

BuzzFlash was around, as we have said many a time, since May of 2000.

We reported on the suspicious domestic terrorism anthrax attacks when they occurred, and how odd it appeared that the Bush Administration never appeared concerned about domestic terrorism, even after the attacks. In fact, as Ron Suskind's book reports, the Bush Administration pushed ABC News and others to link the anthrax attacks to Saddam Hussein. Suskind reveals much more, including that the WH rejected overtures from Iran to help clamp down on Al Qaeda, who is no friend to them (being a Shiite vs. Sunni match up).

The best analysis on the highly questionable "resolution" of the multi-year Keystone Cops FBI investigation (by design BuzzFlash believes -- how can the Bush Administration investigate itself; it couldn't in the Valerie Plame outing or the Katrina failure, because Bush would have had to find himself guilty) is coming from Glenn Greenwald at Salon.com. Greenwald is taking the Ivins suicide and anthrax attacks on with a sense of detail and passion that is unmatched on the Net or in the corporate press. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/story/94702/if_i_were_a_betting_man%2C_i%27d_wager_that_cheney_was_behind_the_anthrax_attacks/



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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:25 AM
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1. MIHOP
The whole of the 911 action was a psyop.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:42 AM
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8. The old 1-2 punch. First 9/11, then anthrax for good measure.
Scare the shit out of the country, and make sure Congress passes your unconstitutional laws.

Pure Cheney operation written all over it.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:36 AM
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12. yup . . . they indeed made it happen . . . and what's frustrating as hell is . . .
that we, the People, are letting them get away with it . . .

someday the truth about 9-11 will come out -- or at least a version closer to the truth than the fantastic conspiracy theory being foisted upon us as the "official" story . . . and I don't know that there's any punishment that's even close to sufficient for those involved . . .
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:31 AM
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2. I agree with Mark.
To have Ivins commit suicide is simply too convenient. That alone raises questions for me in all this. And knowing the people sitting at the top of government it makes the claim of Cheney being behind this all the more likely. But I also predict that when that's conclusively proven he will never answer for the charges. He'll pull a Bill Casey and take a dirt nap before having to go to court.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:53 AM
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3. I'd put my money on that too. The whole purpose of the 'attack" seems to have been
to scare the Congress into passing the Patriot Act.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:08 AM
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4. One Can Connect The Dots All The Way Back To 9/11 And Before.....
think PNAC, think 2000 selection by SCOTUS.

We are beginning to connect the dots backwards. Books like Scotties tell all and Susskind latest. This Ivins suicide and Anthrax. The Plame outing. Downing Street Memo. Keeps connecting the dots and is helping us form a better picture. I wish I was creative. I would put a connect the dots pic together with numbers, dates and events. When all the dots are connected - it would form an image of Bush/Cheney. Right now we have some of the dots connected. An image is forming. But there are some connections that have not been sufficiently connected.

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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:19 AM
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5. Didn't Bush, Cheney and others in their administration
all take Cipro on 9/11 -- the very day?
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Winston. Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 10:42 AM
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6. Yeah...
...and while America is under attack would the first thing you think about be, gee I have to take some anti-anthrax and take it on that very day.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:50 PM
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14. Jerome Hauer was the one who told the White House to take Cipro...

he was also preparing a report that Al Qaeda was behind the anthrax mailings even when faced with the evidence that it was in fact produced by our own military. He also is closely tied to the CFR and was pushing their same propaganda.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 12:17 AM
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7. The most unbelievable things have happened during their squat period in the WH.
Odds would be a close 2-1 that the order came from Shooter.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:49 AM
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9. Yep - anyone that can hold meetings about killing Navy Seals as a way to
start a war with Iran has my vote for the kind of scumbag that could pull the anthrax thingy.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:28 AM
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10. Can 9/11 come out of the closet now, folks?
Given the article in the OP and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3787098">This current thread, I have to ask that question. For years I've been hearing people say that IF 9/11 was something far more sinister than we've been led to believe, "they" (whoever they are) could never keep it a secret. Someone would have come forward. But here we are, now, with revelation after revelation, mostly coming through the medium of books and the internet and almost all completely ignored by the corporate owned media. Who here still believes that the function of the broadcast media is to ask tough questions and keep the public informed, really informed about, arguably, the most important events of our time? And who here can't see that this isn't just "ignorance" or "incompetence," but that it is, in fact, policy.

Prior to 9/11 the Bush administration was some pretty hot water and then, boom, all of a sudden that changed. Suddenly we were a nation "at war" and our enemy was defined for us based on events that have never, ever been fully, properly and impartially investigated. At what point do people begin to wake up and realize that Gore Vidal wasn't just being cute when he said, "'Conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth."

The gestapo -- or its mutated and metastasized first cousin -- is alive and well.

And people like Nancy Pelosi probably know it.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:29 AM
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11. The whole "That many people couldn't keep a secret" thing makes me
want to scream.

I hear it all the time from people who, for one reason or another, just don't want to believe that "our government" could be a part of something so heinously sleazy and criminal.

I wonder if they think that every secret ever kept by the Powers That Be has been uncovered. Like....there are NO secrets because we know them all. They've been totally transparent, and besides that, conspiracies on any kind of scale can't remain secret for very long because "that many people couldn't keep something that big a secret".

I say bullshit.

There ARE people who can keep a secret. I myself have kept secrets for 20...30....40 years. Nothing on a scale such as this...trivial, really...but it does prove a point. Larger secrets can, and probably ARE kept for many years.

And if there's any doubt in the minds of those who orchestrate catastrophic events, people they entrust with secrets often end up rather conveniently "committing suicide". Who knows...maybe Bruce Ivins was on the verge of spilling a few beans about what he may have known...

Oh my...can't have that....

Oops...so sorry...he committed suicide...the case is closed because he was the prime suspect (even though Stephen Hatfill was "it" himself once)

I put absolutely nothing past human beings to do the most evil things imaginable and keep them secret.


PS...and I agree about Cheney likely being behind the anthrax attacks. The man is, IMO, a psychopath/sociopath, who, under different circumstances, might possibly have been a serial killer.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:38 AM
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13. Another PS
And the picture being painted of Bruce Ivins...someone who had a compulsion to "kill" just doesn't FIT with what we know about the person behind the anthrax letters.

The perpetrator gave fair warning to the recipients to get medication so they wouldn't die.

Yet the investigators would have us believe that Bruce Ivins was a man bent on murder.

And...scary from my point of view..."they" are taking aspects of this man and distorting them to fit their profile of someone who could/would do this.

How many of us would be suspects for similar crimes if investigators combed through our medical records or book collections or trash? I myself enjoy reading True Crime books. Someone bent on making me look bad would be able to take that and create a whole dark personality, especially given the fact that I also suffer from depression and anxiety disorders. Yes, they would have a field day with me...

We all need to be very afraid....

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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:03 AM
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15. He wasn't behind it. He WAS it. He is made from solid anthrax.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:11 AM
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16. k'n r: The long march of Dick Cheney
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MinM/82

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x374080

Glenn Greenwald nails it to the wall yet again.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3775001

The FBI Frame-up of Bruce E. Ivins
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3787098

Anthrax ... the Bin Laden & Carlyle Group connection:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3788027

Former Dugway Scientist Tells All
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3772169

Some of the tangential evidence:

Remember when Saddam complained to April Glaspie about Kuwait slantdrilling?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3793980

Tinfoil Hat - Cmdr. Shawn Bentley was relieved of duty Monday
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3788109

So Karl Rove was in Crimera, Ukraine last month?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3789437
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3789411

Tape: Top CIA official confesses order to forge Iraq-9/11 letter came on White House stationery
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3772451

U.S. intelligence agencies tapped Benazir Bhutto’s phone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3770935

Google "Cheney BTC Pipeline"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3777492

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