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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:16 PM
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Newsweek: Chasing the Mythical 'Obamacan' Masses
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 02:26 PM by bushmeat
One (of many) Serious Problem with the OP below: McCain is a "real, live Republican"? He can't even work weekends!

Source: Newsweek - Andrew Romano


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I bring this up today because they're no longer whispering. As we speak/type/read, the Obama camp is holding a conference call with reporters to unveil "Republicans for Obama," a branch of its operation designed to show that "Republicans are coming together in support of Senator Obama to bring change to Washington." That claim was verifiable during the early Democratic primaries, when Republicans willing to crossover and vote in the Democratic contests typically backed Obama over Hillary Clinton by overwhelming margins. Which is why Obama began telling his Obamacan tale in the first place. But now that he's vying for Republican support against a real, live Republican--a slightly different dynamic--I started to wonder whether the story would still hold up to scrutiny.* Obama may count prominent GOPers like Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, presidential granddaughter Susan Eisenhower, Fairbanks, Ak. Mayor Jim Whitaker, former Iowa Rep. Jim Leach, former Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chaffee and former White House intelligence adviser Rita E. Hauser--all of them namechecked on today's call--among his announced (or likely) endorsers. But are there enough rank-and-file Republicans whispering their support at Obama rallies to actually make a difference on Election Day?

As I discovered from examination the last 18 months of head-to-head general election polls, the answer is an emphatic "no." In fact, John McCain's share of the Democratic vote has typically been larger than Obama's share of the Republican vote. In other words, it's not that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright scared the Obamacan masses off, as some pundits have theorized--it's that they never existed (in any unprecedented way) to begin with. In December 2006--before the unfamiliar Illinois senator had officially announced his candidacy--McCain attracted 25 support among Dems versus Obama's eight percent among Repubs, according to a FOX News poll. Those numbers tightened over the next few months, but Obama never established a sustained lead. A February 2007 Quinnipiac survey showed McCain with 17 percent crossover support, for example, versus nine percent for Obama; in a June 2007 sounding by the same firm, McCain still led 15 percent to 11. During primary season--between December 2007 and April 2008--McCain's Democratic number hovered between 18 and 22. Obama, meanwhile, never climbed higher than 13 percent.

Much of this gap can be attributed to the primary clash with Clinton, whose supporters often said they preferred McCain to Obama in head-to-head polls taken before the final Democratic contests on June 3. But even though McCain's support among Dems declined after Hillary bowed out--a natural result of Democratic unity--Obama's Republican backing didn't budge. Today, Republicans for Obama and Democrats for McCain effectively cancel each other out. The latest numbers from CBS News show Obama at 11 percent and McCain at 10 (and tied among Independents); FOX News puts the pairat six percent and seven percent, respectively. That deadlock mirrors 2000, when George W. Bush won over 11 percent of Democratic voters and Al Gore poached eight percent of Republicans--and it means that neither Obama nor McCain, both of whom have repeatedly boasted of their "strong record<s> of bringing people together from the left and the right to solve problems," will be able to count on crossover voters to carry them to victory. They may not even best their predecessors.

Things could always change, of course. Perhaps the newly-formed "Republicans for Obama" will add a game-changing number of actual Republican voters to its current roster of Republican politicians over the next 84 days. But I'm inclined to see it mostly as a publicity effort. With Obama vacationing in Hawaii this week, the major challenge facing Chicago is finding a way to control the news cycle without the candidate. "Republicans for Obama" was merely today's solution--a convenient way to repackage a handful of well-timed GOP endorsements and reinforce the senator's "postpartisan" brand in the process. Whether or not it reflects reality, or has any electoral impact, is probably irrelevant--as long as it transforms a few whispers into a day's worth of headlines.


more here: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/08/12/the-obamacan-movement-myth.aspx
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:20 PM
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1. I question the percentages this guy is writing about; his
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 02:29 PM by babylonsister
source is Faux Snooze? And what Dem in their right mind would cross over to register rethug in today's climate? Makes no sense to me.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:34 PM
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2. He ignores one obvious conclusion from his own numbers...
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 02:36 PM by bushmeat
"The latest numbers from CBS News show Obama at 11 percent and McCain at 10 (and tied among Independents); FOX News puts the pair at six percent and seven percent, respectively. That deadlock mirrors 2000, when George W. Bush won over 11 percent of Democratic voters and Al Gore poached eight percent of Republicans--"

If Gore WON in 2000 with a delta of -3% and Obama now has +1% it gives Obama the win...
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